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Can I ruin mobo or chip by trying upgrade from pentium4 or D to e5800

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September 16, 2011 4:36:07 PM

Can I ruin mobo or chip by trying upgrade from pentium4 or D to e5800
kind of tired of looking all over the net to see if these mobo support the e5800
I have one already so can i just try it?

I think they are all 65 watt capable boards. and are all 775 lga boards

Also if i just run it for a short while to see if its working do i need thermal compound? if i still use heat sink and fan?
September 16, 2011 4:38:44 PM

I guess i should give you the model numbers
dell optiplex gx620
dell dimension 9000
hp pavilion a1620n
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September 16, 2011 4:49:26 PM

Yes you need thermal compound, it is cheap and saves you from the risk of overheating.

I don't think the e5800 will work in a standard Pentium 4 or D since the instruction set for the processor's differ from workstation to server machines.

But if you want to plug it in and try I doubt it would cause any damage. If it were me I wouldn't risk it though.
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September 16, 2011 4:49:46 PM

You will definitely need thermal paste, heatsink/fan. CPUs can overheat in a matter of seconds.

You might need a BIOS update for it to work. Dell/HP have pretty good online documentation.
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September 16, 2011 4:52:24 PM

Most of the time when you place an unsupported processor on a board it won't even boot. The question that you are really asking is can the Intel® Pentium® E5300 work on a board that supported a Intel Pentium 4 or Intel Pentium D processor? The answer is no it can not. The Intel Pentium E5300 is only supported on 3 and 4 series chipsets while the latest chipset that the Intel Pentium 4 and Intel Pentium D were supported on was the 965 chipset.

Now if you have a 965 chipset based board and you wanted to upgrade to the Intel Core™ 2 Duo or Intel Core 2 Quad there is a little bit of room as long as they were 65nm processors. So you might be able to use the Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 or the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 but nothing later.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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September 16, 2011 5:36:02 PM

Hi Christian
thanks for that info.

also can I go backwards?

that is take my new board and use it to test the older chips?

some of the older computers are missing batteries and other parts so it would be nice to test on the newer computer which is currently using the e5800 chip.

MSI G41M-P23
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September 16, 2011 5:43:20 PM

also i google that e6700 and came up with a listing on ebay that said their celeron was faster e3300
I looked at the passmark cpu charts and it is by a bit.

I am just looking for the highest performance chip possible although if its too expensive (like impossible to get for under $100 ) then i might change my mind.

I read that the quad chips would not be supported on a motherboard that came with a dual installed.

Is that not always the case?

also where would i look for the chipset number?

lastly i was referring to e5800 not e5300 but I am sure answer is the same for both.
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September 16, 2011 5:51:17 PM

also
I was not aware that the e5800 was a server processor.
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September 16, 2011 6:53:11 PM

is the q6700 also a possibility?
I see it has outrageous price, but just in case i run across one cheap.


65nm
Q6700 8 MB 1066 MHz 2.66 GHz 80687 42.56 0.012768 0.025536 0.051072
Q6600 8 MB 1066 MHz 2.40 GHz 72800 38.40 0.01152 0.02304 0.04608
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September 17, 2011 12:47:10 AM

Also

I have seen boards that support both the older pentiums and the newer core 2 quads.

are you just saying that boards that were made at the time of pentium d and pentium 4 will not support the newer 775 chips?

I think the computers I got all were made in 2005 2006 time frame.
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September 19, 2011 2:59:00 PM

Looks like MSI has spent some time working to get support for some older Intel® Pentium® 4 and Intel Pentium D processors. So that would be a good for for you. So times a Motherboard Manufacturer may add support for additional processors if they use the same socket. Heck sometime they take away support for some processors that would be supported on the chipset. Since that is done after the fact of us selling them the chipset I dont have any referance to the supported processors for their boards.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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