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June 21, 2011 6:53:54 PM

Hi,
Im a professional photographer from brazil and have a friend going to Miami. He will bring to me some components so I can build my computer.
Im considering buying CPU, Video card, memory and maybe HDD. Im not buying a motherboard due its size (its annoying to carry that on a bag).
My main applications are Photoshop, Lightroom and Indesign (professionally). For fun I like to play IL-2 flight sim. Now its out a new version, Cliffs of Dover (which I heard is very hardware demanding) - but this is not the main use. Just occasionally, and not serious at all.

Which components would you recommend, without getting me broke? As budget, lets say 750.00 (bear in mind that I yet have to buy the motherboard, etc...)

Im considering buying something like a i7 CPU (which?), a Gforce GTX560, 6gb of DDR3 memory (which?), and a 2TB HDD (which?)
Please correct me if my findings above are wrong...

He probably will bo to a Tiger Direct store to find those products. Do you believe he could find everything in a single store?

Any help would be gladlly appreciated!

Thanks!

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June 21, 2011 7:44:31 PM

Tigerdirect/Compusa has pretty limited stock in stores, especially higher-end parts. The better ones are GPUs, which are mostly slightly overpriced EVGA/XFXs. I'm not sure if you qualify for rebates either, as like 60% everything they carry have one. Make sure you/he check(s) on the website for stock.

On the hardware, the 2500K is a better buy than the 2600K IMO; especially since you're not rendering/ video editing. I'm not sure about the games though.

On the GPU, the GTX560 (Ti) is decent, I would personally favor the 6950 if both are at the same price though. It draws less power and performs a bit better.

Heres a list of what I would recommend at current tigerdirect prices:
2500K $220
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

560Ti $250
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

(or HD6950 1GB $245)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

8GB DDR3 $80 (IMO order on newegg, much better selection and much cheaper)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

HDD: ? (It seems like tigerdirect has absolutely no stock of 1TB+ drive in stores :<)
But if its for storage, any would do; if its for general purpose, make sure its 7200RPM.
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June 21, 2011 9:25:35 PM

Thanks a LOT, Timop!

I wans't expecting such a helpfull response with everything handed on a tray for me!
I will also check if I can order from here, to be delivered to his hotel room. This would help him a lot, since he would not have to bother with stock shortages.
How fast those guys can deliver a order? He will be there for only 5 days.
Thanks again!
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June 21, 2011 9:26:40 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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June 21, 2011 9:40:05 PM

Small parts like CPUs should deliver pretty quick. Standard Newegg shipping takes around 3 days ("guaranteed" but note the quotes), but can take more with processing.

Amazon's 2 day has worked quite well in my experience though.

FYI, there are smaller computer shops around town, but it is somewhat of an hassle to find/get to.
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June 21, 2011 10:39:27 PM

Hi!
I noticed the memory you pointed me to, there is no availability in store. Is there any other memory that would replace that, in case he goes to the store and doesnt find it?
Sorry to ask you again, but I tried to find one by myself, and got overwhelmed by so many tech specs I dont understand...
Thanks!
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June 21, 2011 11:21:48 PM

Hey there ric.
I myself am a photographer as a hobby. I'd recommend him to use Newegg (though that's just personal opinion. But uhhh. 750$ for a Photo editing comp is very do-able.

Check out my 600$ guide here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Just change the i3 2100 to an i5 2400 (+70)
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2400-Processor-3-10GHz-L...
Change the 4GB of memory to 8GB (+25)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And change the 5850 to the 6870 (+35)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That should total to about $735

In my workings as a hobbiest photographer, the i5 2400 would provide plenty of power (I use the 955 and it's pretty sufficient though something better would be fantastic. I use the 955 to stitch panos (PTGui) and edit through Lightroom and PS5, so the i5 2400 would be fine)
I also would say the 8GB is necessary when processing and just creating the photos. Memory gets heavily taxed when you finish processing and saving the file (well it does when the photos are 15+mb (Pano files).
The 6870 is a great card (not as good as the 560 Ti) but it'll provide you with plenty of graphical power.

Timop is correct, Amazon offers Prime trials for 30 days which makes products offer 2 day shipping for free. Which is actually really fast (Then again I live close to Amazon's warehouse in Washington). In some cases they delivered it a day before the 2-3 day shipping. (Either/Or)

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June 21, 2011 11:36:02 PM

ricbuchner said:
Hi!
I noticed the memory you pointed me to, there is no availability in store. Is there any other memory that would replace that, in case he goes to the store and doesnt find it?
Sorry to ask you again, but I tried to find one by myself, and got overwhelmed by so many tech specs I dont understand...
Thanks!

The other set is the HyperX, which is $95
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

If you want to buy on newegg, heres the list
CPU (comes in 3 flavors)
If you OC: 2500K $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you don't: 2500 $195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Adventurous folk: E3-1220 $210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

560Ti $235
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

8GB DDR3 1600 $65 (DM15JN11US 15% untill 6/23)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hitachi 2TB $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total$640/605/640
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June 21, 2011 11:44:04 PM

^ Why the 2500? 2400 would be cheaper and perform the same as the 2500 (no K). As for the E3, interesting suggestion.
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June 21, 2011 11:46:38 PM

aznshinobi said:
^ Why the 2500? 2400 would be cheaper and perform the same as the 2500 (no K). As for the E3, interesting suggestion.

The 2500 is the same price as the 2300 $5 for 200mhz is worth it IMO with the $15 promo. :pt1cable: 
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June 21, 2011 11:48:08 PM

Thanks, Shinobi!
I just read guide!
Don't you think I should go for i7, instead of i5, just for future proof? Or is it needless?
Im a wedding photographer, and work with about 4.000 raw images on lightroom, and later on process those images on photoshop actions (for hours).
Also for gaming, is it fine?
Thank you!
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June 21, 2011 11:52:34 PM

Thx, Timop!
On that Xeon, what do you mean, adventurous? Bear in mind Im not a tech savy type of guy. I barely know the basics. I don't OC either. Everything I use is right out of the box.
Ricardo
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June 21, 2011 11:58:20 PM

ricbuchner said:
Thx, Timop!
On that Xeon, what do you mean, adventurous? Bear in mind Im not a tech savy type of guy. I barely know the basics. I don't OC either. Everything I use is right out of the box.
Ricardo

lol, sorry for the odd word choice.
I meant that you'll need to spend some extra time in picking Mobos as being a server CPU, some Mobos might not be compatible eventhough it is the same 1155 socket.
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June 22, 2011 12:00:10 AM

Ahh no, the i5 2400 is sufficient for a long time. The i7 only has the advantage of HT (Hyper Threading) which doesn't help very much when you're editing. I also shoot in Raw+Large on my T2i and editing with my 955 isn't the fastest but it works. The HT will give you a very small performance boost which doesn't justify the extra 100$.

As for gaming yes the 6870 is fine.

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June 22, 2011 1:39:26 AM

Thanks, Shinobi and Timop.
Another question about video cards.
I can see listed many video cards with same model #, but different brands... Is it all the same, since the model # matches?
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June 22, 2011 1:53:31 AM

The model number (like GTX560, 6870) refers to the ship the card is using, determining its general performance. However with different models, there may be different cooler designs, clocks (which boosts performance), misc features (like ports, dual BIOS, voltage control), warranties, and of course price.

If shopping at tigerdirect, look for the cheapest one as it will probably be EVGA or XFX. On newegg, unless you specify a feature, the cheapest one from a non-obscure AIB would be fine.
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June 22, 2011 2:36:05 AM

What do you guys think:

Memory:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

CPU:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

VGA:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

HDD:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

If I would buy this inBrazil, I would pay 3 to 4 times more than this price. So Im not worried about afew dollars more on each component, Im still doing a great deal.

I went for the unlocked CPU, so I can in the future OC it if I might need an extra juice from it, am I right, or unecessary? Is it safe to OC? Do I need an extra uber cooler for it? or the vanilla one would do?

Thanks!
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June 22, 2011 2:41:37 AM

OCing a 2500K is easy-peasy, 4Ghz is do-able even with the anorexic stock cooler.
Looks nice, just note the 6950 would cost $250, the "less rebate" is their way of saying MIR
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June 22, 2011 2:57:49 AM

Would you suggest a lower card? The 6870 Shinobi suggested, would it be a big difference?
What is MIR?
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June 22, 2011 3:24:30 AM

It'd be quite a big difference-ish, the 6870 would be sufficient. I think the lower price you should be looking @ is before rebates. Since you are living in Brazil, I would doubt the rebate would get back to you, unless your friend sends it back to you. But that's just me. I think you'd save more just buying from Newegg and waiting for the shipping. When does your friend leave for Brazil?
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June 22, 2011 3:45:42 AM

You are right. Rebates are a null for me.
He will stay for about 4-5 days in Miami. And the bad thing about newegg, is that I have to use a issued USA credit card. Mine is intl, but issued in Brazil. the other problem is that they don't ship to different addresses other than the one is filed in the credit card company, I mean the billing address.
So whats left for me is my friend going to the actual store and buy it for me.
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June 22, 2011 4:23:25 AM

ricbuchner said:
You are right. Rebates are a null for me.
He will stay for about 4-5 days in Miami. And the bad thing about newegg, is that I have to use a issued USA credit card. Mine is intl, but issued in Brazil. the other problem is that they don't ship to different addresses other than the one is filed in the credit card company, I mean the billing address.
So whats left for me is my friend going to the actual store and buy it for me.

You can try NCIX.com for more selection, they definitely ship out-of-country and price-match with newegg.
http://ncix.com/
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June 22, 2011 4:31:12 AM

Out of the country shipping is not an option too, since it would be held in customs and they would charge me A LOT to get it cleared. I would need a online store that would accept my credit card, and also accept to deliver the items to a hotel address... So far I couldnt find any, because they are afraid of credit card fraud. I will ask him to go to the store, but I will make sure that all itens are in stock in the store he goes.
thanks for your help!!
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June 22, 2011 5:04:14 AM

Amazon. Use the Prime membership trial. It should work.
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June 22, 2011 8:51:52 PM

I will look for it in Amazon...
Could you guys please, point me to a mobo that suits to this combo Im building? In tiger direct would be good. Maybe my friend can bring it to me...
Thanks!
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July 2, 2011 12:08:49 AM

Best answer selected by ricbuchner.
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