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Mid $400 Build- not inc. gfx card

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June 22, 2011 1:20:12 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Sometime by end of the week

Budget Range: About $400 since I have my Gts 250 video card

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Web Browsing, Games (bad company 2, steam games). I want system responsiveness, hiccup free over gaming.

Parts Not Required: All except Video card. I want the logysis clear acrylic case

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Frys or Newegg

Country of Origin: USA, California, Socal

Parts Preferences: I seem to like the new Core I3 Sandy Bridge. Western Digital Black, 4Gb ram should be fine. Already have Win 7 64 bit.

Overclocking: Nope, interested in stability

SLI or Crossfire: Single dedicated evga gts 250 (512mb) video card

Monitor Resolution: 1440/900?

Additional Comments: I want the system to be hiccup free smooth, responsive. Prefer hard drive/memory performance.
All my previous desktops were AMD based. MY last system specifically was a Athlon II x3 3GHz unlocked to Phenom x4 B40. The computer spends too much time reading off the hard drive. Seems to stutter when opening everyday programs. I want the new one to be a bit quicker on applications. I dont mind losing a few fps on games.

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June 22, 2011 2:42:43 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- LOGISYS Computer CS888CL Transparent Clear Acrylic ATX Mid Tower: $70

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W: $45 ($35 after mir)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- ASUS 24X DVD Burner: $21

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB: $61

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- MSI H61M-E33 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI Micro ATX: $70 ($60 after mir)

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- Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz: $125

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333: $38

TOTAL: $430 ($410 after mir's)

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June 22, 2011 2:46:32 PM

there's a great system with the parts you wanted and within your budget... however, if you want 'hiccup free'.. then you're gonna have to go SSD..!

save an extra $100 and add this for your boot drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGT40G 2.5" 40GB: $100
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June 22, 2011 7:35:28 PM

I'm more of a fan of the i5 2400 build.

Case:Rosewill Challenger [49.99]
CD/DVD Drive:SONY Black SATA DVD Rom drive [16.99]
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333 [39.99]
MOBO: Asrock H61M/U3S3 [74.99]
PSU: Corsair CX430 V2 [44.99]
Processor: Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz [194.99] (could also get it from Amazon for like... 2 dollars cheaper and you may not get charged for tax. You can also grab this at Microcenter for 149.99 if it is near. They have a center in Socal but not sure if it is near you, but check out their website and check to see if it's worth the drive. ~$40 off is a lot =))
Harddrive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB [64.99] (This is 59.99 at Amazon)

Total: $486.93 (A little over the mid-400 dollar price range but I just like Quad cores...And this price is from ONLY the NEWEGG prices. So it's the highest price before taxes)

Oh, I didn't see that you wanted the clear acrylic case... with that case, it would be a little over $500. =/ Well, you can choose bits and pieces of hardware from my list if you'd like. I heard the F3 spinpoint 1TB HDD from Samsung was really good. Not as good as an SSD obviously, but good for ~$60.
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June 23, 2011 9:23:37 AM

Just out of curiosity, if you still have your old system, have you thought about just getting a 120GB SSD? and maybe more memory if you don't have 4GB already.
You could simply do that upgrade for about $200 bucks. It would give you massive increase in the responsiveness from your machine without the need to do a complete rebuild. And if you want to switch your things into a new case i'm sure that would then fit your budget as well.
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June 23, 2011 3:27:49 PM

rvilkman said:
Just out of curiosity, if you still have your old system, have you thought about just getting a 120GB SSD? and maybe more memory if you don't have 4GB already.
You could simply do that upgrade for about $200 bucks. It would give you massive increase in the responsiveness from your machine without the need to do a complete rebuild. And if you want to switch your things into a new case i'm sure that would then fit your budget as well.

I guess I didnt read all of the op. Yeah I also agree. You will notice quite an improvement over your old hdd.
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June 24, 2011 7:15:01 AM

Thanks for all of your responses, I have a good picture on what motherboard, Cpu, memory combo to get now.
I really have the idea in mind to get a SSD as it seems like the future, but im giving the old system to my dad, hence the reason why im keeping the old Video card. Are the 60Gb SSds worth it?
I have a 40gb 10k rpm raptor on another computer I got like 4-5 years ago and it works so much faster and more responsive, than my 320gb 7200 rpm Sata I have on this computer.
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June 24, 2011 8:50:06 AM

Well ATM, kinda.... with 25nm coming in and SATA III as well, it's not the best time to buy an SSD. 25nm makes SSDs cheaper (albeit the perf/space isn't as optimized as 32nm), SATA III gives the speeds a HUGE HUGE boost. From Manufacturer's reads of 280 (SATA II) we went to reads of 550 (SATA III) now these are manufacturer numbers, not the actual reviewer numbers, but I'm just saying SATA III SSDs are well optimized, just not SATA III HDDs.

Combo, RAM+HDD+MB+CPU+ETC $286 BR (10$ MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...
DVD $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $405 Before rebates.
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June 24, 2011 1:49:20 PM

hyeedo said:
Thanks for all of your responses, I have a good picture on what motherboard, Cpu, memory combo to get now.
I really have the idea in mind to get a SSD as it seems like the future, but im giving the old system to my dad, hence the reason why im keeping the old Video card. Are the 60Gb SSds worth it?
I have a 40gb 10k rpm raptor on another computer I got like 4-5 years ago and it works so much faster and more responsive, than my 320gb 7200 rpm Sata I have on this computer.


absolutely worth it (the 60GB ones). i have a 60GB /w Win7 + all my apps on it (including the bigger ones like: Office '07, Photoshop CS5, Premiere Elements 9, etc...)... and as of now still over 38GB free space...

just follow these instructions after you setup your OS on your new SSD:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-performance-twe...
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June 24, 2011 1:52:55 PM

**one thing i would change from that THW article.. is instead of completely 'killing' your Page File like it suggests (unless you DO have 12GB of RAM or more), just 'move' the Page File to your mechanical HDD instead...
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June 25, 2011 7:55:28 AM

Is the "B40" cpu considered to be quick by any standards? I think im just gonna get a SSD like someone above mentioned. Seems like a better option than a whole new system.
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June 25, 2011 1:12:55 PM

You would be losing 2 cores for a faster dual core, in gaming you get a very slight boost, but you would loose a lot of multi tasking capabilities. I don't feel the i3 is a significant enough upgrade. If you feel like things are taking a long time to load, this is most likely due to your hdd, the ssd should boost your load times significantly.
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June 25, 2011 6:46:13 PM

The i3 2100 is significantly faster in benchmarks and synthetics (PS5). Well marginally at least. The B40 (or unlocked dual core AMD chip) is going to put you at about the same performance as an i3 2100. However keep in mind, unlocks aren't guaranteed. I've tried, and failed. That was a huge waste of money... It's better to just go for the 955 when it is so cheap.
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June 26, 2011 5:56:25 AM

^he already has it unlocked =]
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June 26, 2011 6:18:04 AM

When my computer turns on the bios screen it tells u to press F4 for 4 cores. I did so I went to my computer it shows up as B40. Seems to be working normal.
But unlocked its a Athlon x3 440 or something, so it really isnt that slow.
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June 26, 2011 8:38:08 AM

OK Go for it. Just remember, once you take the chip off the motherboard, you have to re-unlock it on the new motherboard.
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June 26, 2011 11:00:27 AM

Not sure if im going off topic but, Are the $120 SSD drives worth it for the speed? Like does it significantly boot up faster?
I did research but all I see is Mb/s transfer rate comparisons.
Like say im turning the computer on or loading a map in call of duty.
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June 26, 2011 5:51:05 PM

Yes. It does. Turning on, it'll reduce times by about a minute.
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