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June 10, 2012 4:43:36 AM

I have got a corsair 1*4gb ram and when i try to boot my PC its not booting up, there is only black screen nothing else.I tried putting this RAM into another computer but still its not working.When i put my old ram its working.My motherboard is 100% compatible with the CORSAIR RAM. What could be the reason ?? please help !! :( 

MY specs:
processor:AMD phenom II x4 965
motherboard:ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO
ram:2GB transcend
gpu:NVIDIA 9800gt

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June 10, 2012 5:15:47 AM

Try resetting BIOS to defaults before booting up with the new ram.
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June 10, 2012 7:08:11 AM

I am a newbie in these type of issues :(  .How to reset it to defaults.. i couldn't find an option saying "reset to defaults" in the bios.. please help me with this !!
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June 10, 2012 7:37:49 AM

kd166 said:
I am a newbie in these type of issues :(  .How to reset it to defaults.. i couldn't find an option saying "reset to defaults" in the bios.. please help me with this !!


it should be on the same page as save and exit, one of the options should say reset to defaults or something along those terms. if not, then I do not know what kind of bios you have, even old computers have it =X
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June 10, 2012 8:11:41 AM

Well i saw some videos of cmos jumper on you tube and finally i have restored to defaults.. but still of no use :( 
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June 10, 2012 2:27:11 PM

There is a CMOS/BIOS jumper and there is removing the motherboard battery for a few moments. Since that was no luck the module is most likely bad!
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June 10, 2012 3:46:28 PM

hmm even i think the same.. well i hav askd for a replacement.... hope for the best :)  anyways thanks a lot for the response....... :) 
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June 10, 2012 5:09:01 PM

smorizio said:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A785TDV_EVO/...
list of memory that been tested in that mb. also use the ram vendor memory advisor to see if you have the right ram.


Yes i have checked it already.. it can be upgraded till 16gb tht is 4*4gb memory sticks..
ok here i got the info from the link u provided :
Corsair
CM3X1G1600C9DHX
DDR3 1600
2048MB(Kit of 2)
SS
N/A
Heat-Sink Package
9-9-9-24
1.8V

so it does works right? but i have a doubt regarding that 2048MB(kit of 2) what does that mean ?? Is it that i can only put a 2gb memory max ?? :??: 
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June 11, 2012 4:56:24 AM

Did u reset the BIOS?
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June 11, 2012 4:58:59 AM

nikorr said:
Did u reset the BIOS?


yeah i have done that already but still no use :( 
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June 11, 2012 5:48:11 AM

most ram for mb newer ones that use ddr-3 are 1.5v to 1.65.v for stock ram anything higher and the mb may not post. the ram you have now is 1.8v. i never seen ram spec that high before.
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June 11, 2012 6:48:37 AM

thanks a lot everyone finally my ram is working properly... i updated my BIOS to ver 2105...*sigh* finally i can relax :)  bt still i dono whether my ram is working fully.. ill post the images soon.....
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June 11, 2012 9:09:28 AM

No, it is @ 1333MHz. Enable XMP in the BIOS or set it @ 1600MHz in the BIOS.
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June 11, 2012 9:37:10 AM

nikorr said:
No, it is @ 1333MHz. Enable XMP in the BIOS or set it @ 1600MHz in the BIOS.


There is no XMP in my BIOS and where do i have to go to set @1600MHz in BIOS ?? :( 
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June 11, 2012 9:39:22 AM

Oh, never mind u have AMD.

XMP is for Intel only : )
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June 11, 2012 10:08:59 AM

800MHz x2 = 1600MHz

DDR = double data rate
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June 11, 2012 10:50:56 AM

Ok so i have to change the memory value to 1600 MHz.... and do i have to do any other setting like changing the memory timings or voltage, etc ??
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June 11, 2012 4:25:04 PM

To run at the XMP 1600 timings you will have to change the command rate (at bottom) to 2T.
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June 11, 2012 4:52:26 PM

Lazy me, in short unless you have an 'FX' CPU and want to run DDR3-1600, the 4-core Phenoms are good to DDR3-1866, you must also:
A. Increase the FSB -> 240MHz
<or>
B. CPU-NB Frequency & HT Link Frequency -> 2400MHz ; Black Editions only

IF (A) 3400/200 = 17 ; 3400/240 = 14.2 since (.2) isn't an option you can use a CPU Ratio (Multiplier) = 14*240MHz = 3.36GHz <or> OC 15*240MHz = 3.6GHz ; either can work using Auto vCore in most cases.

Then next set the (CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS), Command Rate & DRAM Voltage if needed -- once in a while with 4GB/stick +0.10v to CPU-NB Voltage is needed.

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Simply getting DDR3-1600 set in the BIOS is an accident waiting to happen.

Now many ASUS offers an AI Overclock with DOCP option, to do all this stuff but looking at you manual quickly it doesn't so per above Choices A or B, manually set the CAS Timings, and CPU-NB Voltage (1.20v) as needed.
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June 11, 2012 5:17:35 PM

Again, I strongly recommend the 'A' or 'B' options as I've outlined them above. Try stress testing both your CPU & RAM and the resulting BSOD might help you understand. The 'AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition ' has a 'weak' IMC and >DDR3-1333 without a FSB of 240MHz or CPU-NB Frequency & HT Link Frequency of 2400MHz simply is unstable. The same 'stuff' needs to be done on the 6-core versions but with those 6-core's DDR3-2000 is obtainable.

Capturing a screen-shot or even a CPU-z 'validation' means ZIP as far as being 'stable'. It's your rig -- I know my RAM and I know the AMD Phenom all too well...
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June 12, 2012 1:46:03 AM

jaquith said:
Again, I strongly recommend the 'A' or 'B' options as I've outlined them above. Try stress testing both your CPU & RAM and the resulting BSOD might help you understand. The 'AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition ' has a 'weak' IMC and >DDR3-1333 without a FSB of 240MHz or CPU-NB Frequency & HT Link Frequency of 2400MHz simply is unstable. The same 'stuff' needs to be done on the 6-core versions but with those 6-core's DDR3-2000 is obtainable.

Capturing a screen-shot or even a CPU-z 'validation' means ZIP as far as being 'stable'. It's your rig -- I know my RAM and I know the AMD Phenom all too well...


So if i use either of this options would it be normal right ??
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June 12, 2012 2:17:23 AM

Please tell me in detail where to go and what to change just i know is that i have to do changes in BIOS but still have doubt and confusions in changing :( 
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June 12, 2012 3:01:13 AM

BIOS:

CPU Overclocking -> Manual
CPU/HT Reference Clock -> 240MHz
Processor Frequency Multiplier -> 14
Memory Clock Mode -> Manual
Memory Clock Value -> 667MHz
DRAM Timing Mode -> Both
TCL -> 9
TRCD -> 9
TRP -> 9
TRAS -> 24

/in the manual I didn't see CPU-NB Voltage, if you see it then use 1.20v

Save & Exit = Yes

Assuming the following RAM:
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June 12, 2012 3:21:17 AM

jaquith said:
BIOS:

CPU Overclocking -> Manual
CPU/HT Reference Clock -> 240MHz
Processor Frequency Multiplier -> 14
Memory Clock Mode -> Manual
Memory Clock Value -> 667MHz
DRAM Timing Mode -> Both
TCL -> 9
TRCD -> 9
TRP -> 9
TRAS -> 24

/in the manual I didn't see CPU-NB Voltage, if you see it then use 1.20v

Save & Exit = Yes

Assuming the following RAM:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/55120844.jpg/


Alright, I have made the changes as u said above.. Here are the images after the changes... Is my COMPUTER now STABLE ?? :??:  *fingers crossed*

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/47163485.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/23698102.jpg/
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June 12, 2012 8:25:08 AM

Is there any necessary to change the CPU/HT Reference Clock to 240MHz and Processor Frequency Multiplier to 14 ?? or if i wont do these changes would i am not able to increase RAM frequency to 1600MHz ?? because my CPU is getting heated.. i got the readings from core temp it says TJ max 99 degree C and CPU 99 degree C .... I know its not safe.. please help me out :( 
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June 12, 2012 11:14:55 AM

Unfortunately with some BIOS this can happen, a new BIOS might have better vCore tables... Otherwise you have four options:

1. Fixed vCore Voltage -> 1.30v~1.35v ; I didn't see this option in the manual

2. (F5) Load Optimized Defaults and use the BE method
CPU-NB Frequency -> 2400MHz ; I didn't see this option in the manual
HT Link Frequency -> 2400MHz
Memory Clock Mode -> Manual
Memory Clock Value -> 800MHz
DRAM Timing Mode -> Both
TCL -> 9
TRCD -> 9
TRP -> 9
TRAS -> 24

/in the manual I didn't see CPU-NB Voltage, if you see it then use 1.20v

3. (F5) Load Optimized Defaults and OC the CAS with Default frequency
Memory Clock Mode -> Manual
Memory Clock Value -> 667MHz
DRAM Timing Mode -> Both
TCL -> 8
TRCD -> 8
TRP -> 8
TRAS -> 24

4. (F5) Load Optimized Defaults and leave it @ Defaults.

/Your BIOS is limited in odd ways./
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June 12, 2012 11:58:40 AM

Oh sad.... well i have not got any problems with the 99 degree C temp yet.. so is this normal or should i change the settings as u have said.....??
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June 12, 2012 12:03:54 PM

That's WAY too hot. Try Option 2.
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June 12, 2012 12:09:18 PM

yea i know..... as u said u couldn't find CPU-NB Frequency even i do.. what to do ?? shall i proceed with the rest ??
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June 12, 2012 12:56:51 PM

At last i have set my BIOS settings to default that means m running my DRAM freq @669MHz... because of the overheating problem *sigh* seems i could'nt run this RAM @ its maximum :( 
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June 12, 2012 1:22:25 PM

You 'could' the costs were too high.

Maybe this article and in particular the 'Real World' tests will make you feel a lot better -> http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/memory/2011/01/11/the-...

The differences on your AMD would be the same -- little benefit. The s-l-o-w component on your PC is the HDD followed by the GPU (if gaming). My advice to anyone wanting a snappy PC is to use an SSD (OS + Apps + Working Data) with HDD (Data: Movies, Music, Documents, etc).
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June 12, 2012 1:56:28 PM

hmm So you are saying that first we have to take care about the CPU temp... If its stable then the RAM is perfect to run right ??
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June 12, 2012 2:14:14 PM

Yep the temps make it a major step backwards. Frankly with the vCore that I saw you probably could have set the Processor Frequency Multiplier -> 15 easy and probably 16 and possibly 17.

Yes if it's stable then as I posted is correct for the RAM.
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June 12, 2012 3:24:31 PM

Ahh sad... seems i need to change my whole mobo for OC the RAM.. :p  which is not good :(  hmm alright i stick with 1333MHz... well have to ask another question.. OC the RAM to 1600MHz really do increase the performance, etc ??
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