Hi all, I've been using a custom built HTPC for a while now, and peruse Tom's regularly for tidbits and advice. I chose/have been running a system based on a lot of feedback I got/read from many of you:
motherboard: ASUS M4A785-M
cpu: amd athlon X2 5050e (great CPU for the money, but I think I'm just putting too much demand on it)
video: onboard 4200 integrated running, overclocked (actually gets all the jobs done for blu-ray, boxee, WMC)
TV Card: ATI cablecard
OS: Win7 Pro 64
The htpc has been great, but over time, as I've added bits of software, and processes continually running, it has gradually become more bogged down, with things such as: PlayOn server, media server for my smart phone to upload video/photos, Eye-Fi server for 2 Eye-fi cards, uTorrent, EventGhost (for universal remote control), Boxee, WMC, media server to stream tv and files to my smartphone, system temp monitoring, and some of the big bits of software that work with WMC to monitor recording folders and re-encode WMC files and strip out ads and such, etc.
I've been using the desktop gadget 'All CPU Meter' the last year, which is a great tool (for those that aren't familiar with it) to monitor cpu core loads graphically. It has helped a lot, in seeing which processes/software use a bunch of the activity of the cpu cores.
So, with my limited knowledge of how video/cpu/motherboard/decoding all works on the fly in reguards to specific loads on a system, and how they work off each other, I have in my mind, that upgrading my cpu to a quad core (vs other factors) will be the biggest help in all of this. I'm assuming this, based on the fact that the biggest things that make my system sluggish are when I'm recording via a cablecard for TV, and when software is transcoding already recorded TV shows. With both of those things happening all at once, they load my 2 cores between 70-99% active. This doesn't leave much else for the other software to run, or really do anything else without some response delay (such as the system taking about 8-12 seconds to open the TV Guide in WMC)
So my questions are:
1) Is this typical sluggishness of the setup I have and the software load I'm putting on it? (it's a energy saver 45W CPU, so I don't expect super high performance, but I am running a bunch of stuff on my system, right? I think I'm ok with going to a higher CPU for electricity bills. I have in my head if I go to a 95W Quad, I might be adding $10/month to the electrical bill)
2) Would upgrading my CPU be the biggest benefit based on my system description? (or maybe upgrading CPU with adding a 'light' video card. I'm under the impression that it's my CPU doing all the work, and the video chip would be transcoding on the fly to output to a monitor, yes? So, I should be focusing solely on the CPU, right?)
3) If upgrading the CPU is the main factor in helping the system perform better, what type of upgrade should I look at? Let's say money isn't a problem (but I don't want to overpay price for performance), and that heat or noise shouldn't be a problem, should I just go for a 95W quad core? I know that going to a quad core would minimally need a 95W CPU design (coming from one of the best low end energy use chips), which will put a higher demand on keeping my case cool.
a)Should I care as much about whether I look at Athlon II X4's vs Phenom II X4's as much?
b)Or, whether I'm looking between 2.9 and 3.2 GHz chips?
c)Or, is mostly the fact that 4 cores will allow me to just run a bunch of software at once, with transcoding, and HDTV recording going on all at once, without bogging down the system?
I have in my head just going to 4 cores would be the biggest help. Someone debunk my thoughts here, if I'm thinking incorrectly.
Thanks for any feedback.
motherboard: ASUS M4A785-M
cpu: amd athlon X2 5050e (great CPU for the money, but I think I'm just putting too much demand on it)
video: onboard 4200 integrated running, overclocked (actually gets all the jobs done for blu-ray, boxee, WMC)
TV Card: ATI cablecard
OS: Win7 Pro 64
The htpc has been great, but over time, as I've added bits of software, and processes continually running, it has gradually become more bogged down, with things such as: PlayOn server, media server for my smart phone to upload video/photos, Eye-Fi server for 2 Eye-fi cards, uTorrent, EventGhost (for universal remote control), Boxee, WMC, media server to stream tv and files to my smartphone, system temp monitoring, and some of the big bits of software that work with WMC to monitor recording folders and re-encode WMC files and strip out ads and such, etc.
I've been using the desktop gadget 'All CPU Meter' the last year, which is a great tool (for those that aren't familiar with it) to monitor cpu core loads graphically. It has helped a lot, in seeing which processes/software use a bunch of the activity of the cpu cores.
So, with my limited knowledge of how video/cpu/motherboard/decoding all works on the fly in reguards to specific loads on a system, and how they work off each other, I have in my mind, that upgrading my cpu to a quad core (vs other factors) will be the biggest help in all of this. I'm assuming this, based on the fact that the biggest things that make my system sluggish are when I'm recording via a cablecard for TV, and when software is transcoding already recorded TV shows. With both of those things happening all at once, they load my 2 cores between 70-99% active. This doesn't leave much else for the other software to run, or really do anything else without some response delay (such as the system taking about 8-12 seconds to open the TV Guide in WMC)
So my questions are:
1) Is this typical sluggishness of the setup I have and the software load I'm putting on it? (it's a energy saver 45W CPU, so I don't expect super high performance, but I am running a bunch of stuff on my system, right? I think I'm ok with going to a higher CPU for electricity bills. I have in my head if I go to a 95W Quad, I might be adding $10/month to the electrical bill)
2) Would upgrading my CPU be the biggest benefit based on my system description? (or maybe upgrading CPU with adding a 'light' video card. I'm under the impression that it's my CPU doing all the work, and the video chip would be transcoding on the fly to output to a monitor, yes? So, I should be focusing solely on the CPU, right?)
3) If upgrading the CPU is the main factor in helping the system perform better, what type of upgrade should I look at? Let's say money isn't a problem (but I don't want to overpay price for performance), and that heat or noise shouldn't be a problem, should I just go for a 95W quad core? I know that going to a quad core would minimally need a 95W CPU design (coming from one of the best low end energy use chips), which will put a higher demand on keeping my case cool.
a)Should I care as much about whether I look at Athlon II X4's vs Phenom II X4's as much?
b)Or, whether I'm looking between 2.9 and 3.2 GHz chips?
c)Or, is mostly the fact that 4 cores will allow me to just run a bunch of software at once, with transcoding, and HDTV recording going on all at once, without bogging down the system?
I have in my head just going to 4 cores would be the biggest help. Someone debunk my thoughts here, if I'm thinking incorrectly.
Thanks for any feedback.