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Why bother having slots below PCIEx16?

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June 11, 2012 12:10:00 AM

I am really confused by something,
motherboards all have slots like PCIEx1 underneath thier PCIEx16 slots.

But on those x16 cards (esp gaming rigs) people have rather large heatsinks covering the slot underneath. Why do they bother putting anything near that slot?

This is one of the big things that has stopped me from going crossfire, the fact that there would be no space on my mobo for anything but GPUs.

Am I missing something? I know single slot cards exist but they are usually slow or very loud, whereas 3 slot coolers can cool high TDP cards and keep them quiet.

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a b V Motherboard
June 11, 2012 12:52:01 AM

You see, not everyone will use their PCIe x16 slot for a dual slot graphics card. They might use a single slot one. Or they even might use that slot for something else, like a professional hard drive controller. Not everyone is going to be using those for graphics.
Also, it looks good on paper. When you compare products between different manufacturers, they can claim they support more slots, so they can address a bigger audience and maximise potential sales.
Could they come with a "better" design, where the x1 slot sits further away? Possibly. Is it worth doing though? Probably not. To redesign a motherboard, even to that small stage, it would cost them more money, rather than to slop on and populate as much of the board as possible with features.
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June 11, 2012 12:20:20 PM

oh so its mostly marketing fluff, you think... thats annoying. They could make a cheaper board by not bothering with some of those connectors. I guess this way it also works for the largest population (ie those that have 1-slot GPUs).

What are these hard-drive controllers you speak of? you mean those PCI-E raid SSDs?
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June 12, 2012 10:00:38 AM

mini itx lacks fluff
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a c 716 V Motherboard
June 12, 2012 1:01:06 PM

The simple answer it entirely depends upon YOUR use. At Home I can rationalize a MOBO/CPU that doesn't support 4-WAY SLI is a waste to produce, but at the Office a MOBO with anything less than 4-WAY CPU's (4xCPU's) and 32xDIMM slots is a waste to produce.

Not everyone needs a discrete CPU and many of those folks need a huge permutation of PCIe (including PCI) slots in various bandwidth and placements.
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June 13, 2012 7:08:17 AM

I'm looking for a H/z77 matx mobo with 1 Gpu slot, 1sound card Pci slot and one of those shorty pcie slots but nearly all mobos have umpteen gpu slots and one or the other , but not one of each of the other slots. Found a nice Asrock ATX with what I want but would then have to spend more getting an atx case - come manufacturers - we dont all want multi GPU slots - but I cant be the only one wanting to to cater for different cards
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June 13, 2012 1:36:47 PM

i think you can stick the short x1 PCIE cards into the gpu slots BUT it is a waste of money on your end since you wont be using all those extra traces/circuitry, for the x16 slot.
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a c 716 V Motherboard
June 13, 2012 2:28:22 PM

Pff...again it depends upon YOUR use. I refuse to buy any MOBO with less than 2xPCIe x16 slots and an accessible x1 slot.

Yes you can put a x1, x4, x8 or x16 card in a PCIe x16 slot.
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a b V Motherboard
June 15, 2012 12:05:01 PM

Yes Chico, the RAID cards are hard drive controllers. There are also heaps of other stuff that can be connected these days on the shorter PCIe slots, such as audio cards, TV tuners, Wi-Fi's, etc.
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