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My 3 year old video card - PNY 512mb 9600 gt

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April 12, 2011 6:57:16 AM

Hi.

Well, just built a new system and I must say I'm very pleased - it's FAST (well for me anyway).

ASUS P8P67
intel i5 2500k cpu
8 gigs Gskill Ripjaw 10666 RAM
500 gb WD 7200 sata 3 HDD
PNY 9600 GT 512mb vid card
Antec 500watt PSU
Antec Illusion case
Windows 7 64-bit

Anyways, I'm wondering about my video card (it's old) and whether I should upgrade it. How are the 9600 gt's anyways? I know by now they're not considered great anymore, but they seem to work nice when I played the "Crysis SP" demo that I downloaded.

I believe this is the card I have:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133239

I'm also an occasional flight simmer (Xplane 9 and FSX). How do you think these will run on my new system? I just bought FSX again for $19.99 and am excited to see how it runs on my new computer! It didn't run so well on my Pentium D with XP.

Also, I believe my vid card is DDR3, can anyone verify this?

thanks :) 

April 12, 2011 7:08:57 AM

The 9600GT was indeed a great budget card when it came out a couple years ago but you're right in thinking that it is outdated. If you want to get the most out of your new gaming PC then you will probably want to go for a new graphics card, as it's definitely the limiting factor of your PC.
It is a DDR3 card, and that setup will probably run FSX well (iirc FSX is very CPU dependent) but if you want to play the latest games maxed and get the most out out of your system, you should probably consider upgrading, but if you find yourself happy with your computer the way it is, I see no reason to upgrade.
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April 12, 2011 7:17:25 AM

Yeah, the 9600 was a great card in its time.

If you want to upgrade, we need to know what resolution you play at and how much you're willing to spend. If you have a brand preference that's fine too.
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April 12, 2011 9:46:51 AM

gracefully said:
Yeah, the 9600 was a great card in its time.

If you want to upgrade, we need to know what resolution you play at and how much you're willing to spend. If you have a brand preference that's fine too.



NVIDIA

1680x1050 (I believe) 22 inch monitor


BUDGET ~ $1000 USD ................. just kidding!

Budget - $150
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April 12, 2011 10:30:18 AM

The 9600GT was a good card when it was released. I have a passively cooled one in my HTPC.

In comparison to more current video cards, the 9600GT is about equal to the AMD Radeon HD 5670. The 9600GT looses to it in some games, but can also beat the HD 5670 in some others. As for Crysis 1, the HD 5670 is better by a decent margin. It is roughly equivalent to the nVidia GeForce GT 240; actually I would say overall a little more powerful.

In your budget, you should be able to buy the HD 5770 or the GTX 460. The GTX 460 performs better though.
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April 12, 2011 1:33:20 PM

I would recommend the 460, propably the best price/performance card from nvidia as of right now. If you by any chance find a way to raise your budget though I would go for a 6850, which can run just about anything at max
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April 12, 2011 1:53:43 PM

dominnater said:
I would recommend the 460, propably the best price/performance card from nvidia as of right now. If you by any chance find a way to raise your budget though I would go for a 6850, which can run just about anything at max


is that nvidia?


How's this card?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133383
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April 12, 2011 3:17:28 PM

3-digit current-gen products are from nVidia, like the (GTX) 560, (GTS) 450, and so on. 4-digit current-gen products are from AMD, like the (HD) 6850, (HD) 4890, and so on.

The 460 is better than the 550, and they're at approximately the same price point. It's obvious which one you should pick. ;) 
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April 13, 2011 1:06:04 AM

Keto that 550 is inferior to the 460 as gracefully said. The Nvidia 460 is a great card I highly recommend.
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April 13, 2011 5:00:50 AM

dominnater said:
Keto that 550 is inferior to the 460 as gracefully said. The Nvidia 460 is a great card I highly recommend.



Why is the 460 better, wouldn't the higher number mean better?

They have the 460 at BestBuy for $199, I think.

P.S. I'm not really a big gamer, but I do occasionally fire up X plane 9 and maybe fs2004 sometimes. Lately I've been getting into the first person shooter type games after downloading the Crysis Sp demo to test out my new system .... that's pretty fun ... I could waste my whole morning playing that!

So realistically I think a "pretty good" card would be right for me, I'm considering the 460, but my look around a little first. I think a $500 card for me may be overkill.
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April 13, 2011 5:09:25 AM

The first number marks the generation of the card, so the AMD 5670 is in a newer generation than the 4890, but the 4890 is definitely faster than the 5670, because they're in different performance tiers. Likewise, for nVidia, the 560 is in a newer generation than the 480, but the 480 is faster than the 560, because the 480 is the top-of-the-line 4xx card. Ignore the product numbers if you want, and focus on the reviews and performance.

If it's just a battle between the 550 and the 460 in terms of performance and not price, the 460 is better.
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April 13, 2011 5:25:11 AM

gracefully said:
The first number marks the generation of the card, so the AMD 5670 is in a newer generation than the 4890, but the 4890 is definitely faster than the 5670, because they're in different performance tiers. Likewise, for nVidia, the 560 is in a newer generation than the 480, but the 480 is faster than the 560, because the 480 is the top-of-the-line 4xx card. Ignore the product numbers if you want, and focus on the reviews and performance.

If it's just a battle between the 550 and the 460 in terms of performance and not price, the 460 is better.


So basically for under $200 bucks I should try to find a 256-bit, 1 gb, DDR5 GTX 460? Does the brand matter ... Zotac, PNY, EVGA, etc?? I notice on Newegg that each company may have different "stream processor numbers", core clock speeds, etc, as their seeling points, so I guess it's just a matter of the best bang for the buck?

P.S. Will my 500watt Antec PSU be enough power??

I see that to get a 256 wide bus I'll have to spend over $170 or so, $150 or under I'm gonna get a 192-bit or less, do these things matter much? I would think they do.

How's this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130570
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April 13, 2011 12:03:54 PM

The brands don't really matter too much in my op, they just change the way the cards look, maybe OC it a little ect. I always go by price and reviews.

Your 500watt is plenty

I don't know about the bus, it may help in some games but I have no idea.

That card looks very expensive, You could get a card just like it for a lot less. Something like:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Has all the features of yours but costs less and has a nice $40 rebate, and it looks cool!
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April 13, 2011 12:51:39 PM

For the GTX 460, the 768MB model has less SPs than the 1 GB model. That probably explains the varying number. As for the bus width, 256-bit matches up to the 1GB model, while the 192-bit one matches up to the 768 MB card. The 768 MB 460 has one of its 64-bit memory channels removed, thus the lower memory capacity, and narrower bus width.

The brand doesn't matter much, so get what you prefer. Your 500W PSU should be able to handle it.
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April 13, 2011 1:19:52 PM

I was at Best Buy the other day and they had graphic cards marked up $100 from what Newegg had. So Best buy isn't really the best buy lol
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