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9800GT 1GB DDR3 Extremly Bad Performance

Forum Graphics & Displays : Nvidia 9800GT 1GB DDR3 Extremly Bad Performance

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Hi!

I've got a Point of View GeForce 9800GT 1024MB DDR3 Green.

But there seems to be some problems as i only got a score of 2419 on 3DMark06.
3dMark score
I've tested with both the drivers that comes with the graphics card
and with the latest one from nVidias website. Also tested reinstall Windows 7
and i always get about the same score on 3DMark06.
I've tested a few games as well with really really poor performance.

And one more strange thing i've noticed is that when i look at the driver
software and click on "About my system" it reports that i have ddr2 512mb graphics memory.


The computer specs are:

PSU:
Corsair TX 750W

CPU:
Intel Coreā„¢ i5 Quad Processor i5-2500K
3,3GHz, Socket LGA1155, 6MB, Boxed

MB:
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3, Socket-1155

Memory:
Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9
CMX8GX3M2A1600C9

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Download GPU-Z. It will tell you everyone you need to know about your graphics card. It will confirm what you really have, just to be sure. The 9800GT Green is not the fastest car on the block. What games is it performing poorly in?

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/

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http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/11/04/12/gvt.png

GPU-Z reports that it is GeForce 9800GT but DDR3 but it still
reports the wrong? ram amount. Both the package and the sticker
on the videocard says its 1024MB and in the end of the serial number
"GREEN".

Tested it on Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike Source, Crysis 2 and Mirrors Edge.
Crysis 2 is absolutely not playable at all.

I've also done another benchmark in 3DMark Vantage. P666 in score.

Its about the same framerate in the games as my 7400 GS 256mb.

Reply to Anonymous

And you downloaded the new 266.58 drivers from Nvidia's site?

 

Your card could be marked wrong. If GPUZ reports 512MB of Ram that is probably what it has.

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http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/10/09/13/cuq.png

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Message edited by ionut19 on 04-12-2011 at 08:12:11 PM
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jay2tall wrote :

And you downloaded the new 266.58 drivers from Nvidia's site?

Your card could be marked wrong. If GPUZ reports 512MB of Ram that is probably what it has.



I've tried it with both the new 266.58 drivers from nvidia's site and
the drivers on the cd from the box.
Reinstalled Windows 7 when i reinstalled the drivers.


ionut19 wrote :

Is the card new or..?


No, but i got it for free from a friend because it was so slow.
So it have been slow all the time.



Have you tried 3DMark06? Just wondering if you have approximately the same
score as me.

Reply to Anonymous

Something is F-ed with that card. Here is another GPU-Z from a 9800GT Green. Your ROPS, Bus width, and bandwidth are REALLY low. I think a portion of your GPU is fried or something.

http://www.overclock.net/graphics- [...] -info.html

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/10/09/13/cuq.png


Message edited by jay2tall on 04-12-2011 at 09:34:49 PM
Reply to jay2tall

Also, check to see if the card has a 6 pin power connector. If so, is it plugged in?

Reply to jay2tall

Hmm, could i possibly be a firmware bug?

The card doesn't have a power connector.

If i could find someone with the same card and do a backup with NVFlash and
try to flash it using a different firmware.

Any other suggestions?

As the card doesnt seem to be fried and it have been slow from when it was new.

Reply to Anonymous

Is it under warranty? I think some of those "green" cards are just neutered versions of the original.


Message edited by jay2tall on 04-12-2011 at 10:07:56 PM
Reply to jay2tall

Could be, im gonna ask the guy i got it from!

Thx for the help!

Reply to Anonymous

I remember when these cards came out and couldn't believe they ran with no 6pin power connector. There were all sorts of different versions released from each manufacturer. The majority performed around the 9600GT performance and that still used a 6 pin connector. This just may be a really chopped down card. 4 ROPS is 1/4 of the standard 9800GT 16 ROPs, and 64bit memory bus is 1/4 of the original 256bit bus. My only though on that is this card is really a terrible design or something is wrong with it.

 

You got it for free so you are not out anything.


Message edited by jay2tall on 04-12-2011 at 10:30:06 PM
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If it does not have any warranty i do not now what you can do with it. Everything is screwed up with it. The image is not from my card but as jay posted from the internet.
I posted it as a comparison because i got a bigger score(and bigger numbers in gpu-z) with my core 2 duo at 3.4Ghz and my old HD2600XT.

If you do not find a way to fix it mechanically or by a bios flash then you can keep it until you get a new one. I suggest one from 6950 above to go with your CPU, if not, send your PC to me, i will put one inside and enjoy it (ha ha ha).

Reply to ionut19

Hehe, okey. But i think i could still have warranty. Im gonna mail the manufacturer and see what they say!

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Warranty goes to the original owner, don't say you are the second owner of the card.

Reply to ionut19

Sounds like something is wrong with half the memory on that card, like they forgot to connect half the chips or something. The memory is suppose to be 256-bit, so 64-bit is only a quarter of that. Odd indeed

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Reply to megamanx00

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL XD

Dude that has got to be to most funky card that I have ever seen!!!!! RMA or store return Right Away! A normal 9800gt blows that away and are you even sure that is a real 9800gt even? Why is something that most don't know including the rich know it all types that you can rename the card by editing the bios rom in nbitor to make it appear to the driver as something else.

http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2007/11/19/65955.png

Take a picture of the actual card that you have because you either have a bricked card or a counterfeit 9800gt :pt1cable:


Second EDIT: Your bios is not even in techpowerup database.

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios [...] &memSize=0


Message edited by nforce4max on 04-12-2011 at 11:24:40 PM
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I was wondering if you can make some changes to the bios to look like a 9800gt but i was not confident enough to state that, seeing your comment i guess it can be done. Got to remember that..also this is the first card that i have seen to look like this .. :crazy: .

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ionut19 wrote :

I was wondering if you can make some changes to the bios to look like a 9800gt but i was not confident enough to state that, seeing your comment i guess it can be done. Got to remember that..also this is the first card that i have seen to look like this .. :crazy: .



You can, it is all about fooling the driver and other applications into thinking that it is something that it is not. I was going to bios mod a 9800gt 1gb to sli with a stock gts 250 1gb without using a different bios. You can do this by changing device id and other tags while leaving other things unchanged such as volts, clocks, timings, and profiles. Nvidia cards can be very funky just like ATI but most don't know it as well as others. Not very many do this so this is extremely rare that this was even posted. This is the first time that I have seen someone post such a card here on THG. That isn't a normal 9800gt period, it is either defective OR it is what I have suggested. I can even do a step by step guide how to reproduce this but it may not be something that I should post.

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Yup, it is pretty messed up.
Al least it gave me laughs.

Reply to plznote

Can you give us a good picture of both sides of the card? I'm sure that would answer all our questions pretty quickly... ;)

Reply to someguynamedmatt

someguynamedmatt wrote :

Can you give us a good picture of both sides of the card? I'm sure that would answer all our questions pretty quickly... ;)



http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4571/frontclw.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7716/backzc.jpg
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8356/connectionsp.jpg

Reply to Anonymous

Yes, looks the same.

I've mailed POV yesterday and got a response today:

Quote :

Dear sir

I would recommend to go back to the reseller where you bought the card . The card must have 1024MB , I guess this is a mistake by factory


With kind regards

Point of View / Technical Department



I'm gonna see if i can send it to them directly!

Reply to Anonymous

Return the card right away.

Reply to nforce4max

Anonymous wrote :

Yes, looks the same.

I've mailed POV yesterday and got a response today:

Quote :

Dear sir

I would recommend to go back to the reseller where you bought the card . The card must have 1024MB , I guess this is a mistake by factory


With kind regards

Point of View / Technical Department



I'm gonna see if i can send it to them directly!



Probably a good idea. This is probably one of the strangest things I've seen all month...


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