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June 27, 2011 5:24:35 PM

Okk.. so appears my other mobo is fried on old comp so figure ill build myself a new one rather than throw away the cash

On a bit of a budget. Want to stay around $1300 for a new system, but am not opposed to repurposing my case, HDD, and optical drives from old computer for new one

While I will be using this computer for business too (Quickbooks etc) the main purpose is gaming.. with the vast majority being online gaming. I plan on keeping this system 3 years minimum and probably 5 max.

Question one is do I go with a LGA 1366 or 1155 for this purpose?

From there, let me give ya what I have been looking at and you tell me how ignorant I am

Processor - i7 960 for 1366 or 1155 i7 2600..
1366 - $280
1155 - $300

Motherboard -

If I go with 1366
1. Asus P6X58D $190ish
2. Asus Sabertooth X58 - 190ish
3. Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R - $200

If I go with 1155
1. Asus Maximus IV would be really nice:> - but $350 ouch

2. GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P - $175 when factoring in combo savings
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

3. GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD4 - $195 when factoring combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

4. I had seen alot of people using AsRock Z68 Extreme4 - $190
I do not know alot of AsRock so i do not know they make a good mobo. I do not like messing around with BIOS and do not plan on OC anything

GPU

Going single cause I just dont see that big a difference in mmos with a great single vid card over 2 good vid cards

1. EVGA GTX570 SC - $330

Memory -

1. Corsair Dominator - 6 gigs - $97,50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2. I notice alot here seem to like the Rip Jaws - $84
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I noticed they are specifically set for the Sandybridge so not sure if I go with 1366 if I should get something different

PSU - unless you think one of the combos is is better
1. Corsair TX750 - $95



Another alternative 1366 set up to just go with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

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a b 4 Gaming
June 27, 2011 5:57:20 PM

If you could fill this out, we can give you more specific help:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

I would suggest the i5-2500 (K or non-K) and a good P67 board as the base - the Gigabyte P67X-UD3 is a good board, though if you only want one GPU then there are many more options. You can OC with the K version down the road to keep up with increasing system requirements (that's what a lot of users with Core 2 Quads are doing).

For RAM, get a good 4GB (2x2GB) or 8GB (2x4GB) kit @ 1600MHz. The G.Skill kits, as "cheap" as they may seem, are some of the best, especially at the price. That Corsair kit you linked won't work with all three sticks on an 1155 board, just FYI.

Even at 1920x1200, the AMD 6950 will serve you well. It's a great GPU and performs very well for the price. The 6970 and 570 are better, and both perform similarly.

You can reuse your old hard drive and disc drive, but you will need to reinstall the operating system once you put it in the new system.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 27, 2011 5:57:26 PM

1366 is a no-go. Outdated and more expensive for the performance you'll be getting.
CPU-wise, the i5 2X00 is just as good as the 2600 for gaming as HT doesn't benefit games, $100 for 2MB more L3 and a 100mhz clock boosts isn't worth it IMO.

Heres something:
i5 + Gigabyte Z68 $307
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

MSI GTX570 $290AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

8GB DDR3 $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What is the old computer? If the case, PSU, etc is decent feel free to reuse them, easy on you wallet and less waste.

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a b 4 Gaming
June 27, 2011 6:06:00 PM

^That CPU/Mobo combo is a steal. That Gigabyte board will support SLI/CF if I'm not mistaken (can't view the link - internet sucks here :/ )

+1 to the remarks about the older components.
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June 27, 2011 6:06:54 PM

the 1366 chipset doesn't really seem to be going anywhere, although at the moment it seems to be the slightly higher of the two performancewise. If you plan on upgrading parts in the future the 1155 may be the direction to look at, if you're going to be sticking with the same setup far into it, you could safely go with the 1366.

If you have and like your current case and it's in good shape there's literally no reason to upgrade so long as the components fit into it. Same goes with optical drives, if they meet your needs, use em' till they die. They're cheap and easy to swap out.

The HDD I would probably repurpose as a backup or second hard drive. I've been bitten before by a reused hard drive that promptly died, taking data along with it. However if you're using a RAID 1 or 5 array or using a cloud backup there should be no reason not to use it as a second drive to store your pictures/music/documents on.

I recently got an SSD for a boot drive, and I was pretty pleased with the performance. I'd suggest it. I had windows 7 up with drivers and running steam just less than an hour from starting the install. The performance got me tickled too. Games seem to load about twice as fast (the specs on paper don't tell the same story but it sure feels like it.)

Also, add another to the i5 over i7 comment, 4 cores don't do you any good for a game that can only use 1 at a time.
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June 27, 2011 6:37:22 PM

Excellent information so far. Just saved me a nice hundo by advising against the i7. I have an external drive I backup everything i care about just in case cause I do not trust my current Hitachi drive even though it has had no quirks at all

Main purpose for the new build is I am going to see if a new PSU can fix my other computer.. its a long shot, but if its not the PSU.. its gotta be mobo and I figure if i gotta pull all the crap out to replace the mobo (asus p5n-t deluxe which asus doesnt support well) and im using a quad core with 2 x nvidia 9800 gtx.. might as well just go all out since so much new architecture out

Approximate Purchase Date: if power supply doesnt work.. within next couple of days

Budget Range: $1200ish After Rebates


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Online gaming, business management, usual gaming (business is always most important, but thas not going to make a diff)

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Optical Drive, Windows 7, I might use my Apevia Jupiter X case, unless I just should just go ahead and buy a half case and be ok (just have a place to hold hold parts would use old case)

Corsair Enthusiast Series 750 watt (one im going to try out to see if fixes)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, but always opened to others

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU and Nvidia Graphics cards

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe - in future

Monitor Resolution: (1920x1200) - i dont mind lower resolutions, but for puposes lets assume



I will have to edit with links in a bit since newegg.com seems to be having server probs
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June 27, 2011 7:27:07 PM

how much of a videophile are you? do you need the best graphics on the highest res screens or are you happy running everything at medium on a regular decent size monitor?

What kind of "online gaming" are we talking about? MMORPG, FPS, Minecraft?

What was the problem you were trying to fix with the PSU?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 27, 2011 8:05:52 PM

Go 2500K for sure. It's just as good as the 2600K in gaming.
If you get that 570, you'll be fine with a 500W power supply.
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June 27, 2011 9:47:22 PM

as for the ASRock, they've been in the game for a while now. I had a board from them a while back that performed well enough. I think i swapped it out and sold it to a freind, he never complained so i suppose it lasted for a while after that.
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June 27, 2011 11:53:12 PM

well looks like i will hold off on a new computer 6 more months.. learned alot though here on sandybridge and different manufacturers

problem i had was video going out intermittently, powering down computer but while everything closed.. the power stayed on even after holding down 5 seconds

currently im using a Quad core 9550 on an Asus P5N-T Deluxe with 2 x nvidia 9800GTX+ cards

I had been using an NZXT 850 watt on 4 rails..
when all this started

just slapped in a Corsair Enthusiast 750 watt on 1 rail and so far all problems are gone

although...

it seemed in my mmos that my frame rate had dipped a bit.. windows performance index had also dipped from a 7.5 to a 6.7

not sure if that has something to do with new power supply. id think 750 watt is enough and my 12V is maintained a rock steady 11.78 V (noticed my NZXT had a bit of fluctuations but not much)
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July 5, 2011 1:36:46 PM

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