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June 28, 2011 3:25:02 PM

I'm currently building a gaming PC, I need to keep it under 800 euro's (1150 dollars) and I like to know if what i have come up with is any good.

I want to play games at high/very high at a 1680 x 1050 resolution (22 inch monitor)
Also I'm not planning on buying a new one within three years.

this is what I have come up with:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
GPU: 2x XFX HD6870 Dual Fan (HD-687A-ZDFC) (crossfired)
PSU: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W
RAM: Corsair 4 GB DDR3-1333 Kit
Motherboard: ASUS P8H67-M PRO -=Rev.3.0=-
harddisk: Seagate ST31000524AS (1tb, 7200 rpm)
Case: MS-TECH CA-0200

including a dvd drive this is 798,98 euro's

I already have a version of windows 7 64 bit form my previous PC, so i don't need to buy that.

well, is this any good, can it be cheaper, should I change something?
I'd also like some information on crossfire, because i've heard about it giving serious problems (micro stutter etc.) Is this true?

oh and I buy everything at alternate.nl

Thanks in advance for any responses.

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a c 272 4 Gaming
June 28, 2011 3:29:41 PM

No reason to get a "K" CPU and then limit overclocking by using a H67 board that does not even support CF of your dual cards. Get a P67 or a Z68 board and possible drop down to a single HD6950 to allow for the price increase of the motherboard a second card can be added later for Crossfire.
June 28, 2011 3:53:28 PM

exactly what rolly said.

you build is good overall, but as he said, the 67 motherboard makes the i5-2500K not be able to overclock and you cant use crossfire. so upgrade to a decent ASUS P67 or Z68 and you will be fine
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June 28, 2011 7:48:49 PM

Thanks for the quick answer, I switched to an ASUS P8P67-M -=Rev.3.0=- motherboard. Is that a good choice? and how do I know if a motherboard supports overclocking? And do you think the 6950 will drop in price so dramaticly within 1 year, that I can buy it for 100 euro's, and thus keep my butget around 800?
June 28, 2011 8:08:10 PM

The ASUS P8P67-M will work in crossfire. However... A single graphics card on that Mobo will run at 16X but adding a second will cause both cards to run at 4x. Ideally you want a minimum of 8x on both slots as there should be little to no bottlenecking at this speed. 4X will limit the performance of the graphics cards.
If you can find one, the mATX ASUS P8P67-M-Pro can run 2 cards at 8x. I think Asus is not making these anymore. The ATX ASUS P8P67 Pro is the next card in the line-up that supports Crossfire at 8x/8x. Look for boards that say SLI compatible - This means they are 8x/8x because Nvidia won't allow a board to say it is SLI compatible when it can only run at 4x/4x. AMD has no problem calling a 4x/4x mother board crossfire compatible. The other option is going with the P67 or Z68 boards from Asrock or MSI. those seem more in your price range. Good luck
June 28, 2011 8:31:00 PM

thanks for the reply, I have never heard of 16x or 4x before, and don't know what it means, so I don't really know what to look for, but this ASRock P67 Pro3 SE fitted your discription and actually is a bit cheaper than the ASUS motherboard, Is this one 8x/8x?
a b 4 Gaming
June 28, 2011 10:25:55 PM

marinusV said:
thanks for the reply, I have never heard of 16x or 4x before, and don't know what it means, so I don't really know what to look for, but this ASRock P67 Pro3 SE fitted your discription and actually is a bit cheaper than the ASUS motherboard, Is this one 8x/8x?



You don't want that mobo either. It runs dual cards @ 8x & 4x

Do you have a link to the site your using ? If so, post it please.
a b 4 Gaming
June 28, 2011 10:51:53 PM

Two 6870s are way overkill for 1680x1050. Get a single 6950, 6970 or GTX 570 for now and only add another one latter on when you need more power.
a b 4 Gaming
June 28, 2011 11:00:08 PM

^+1

You could check out mah build guide for 1200$/1000$ in my siggy. It may help a little.
June 29, 2011 5:24:57 AM

This is the link to the site i'm using: http://www.alternate.nl/html/index.html

even though the site is written in Dutch, a lot is in English and pictures accompany many of the buttons. You should click PC/Notebook --> PC Builder and than the rest will speak for itself.

I think I'm dropping the crossfire and buy a strong single card, either the 560 TI, 570 or 6950, and then later buy a second one. Wich of these is the best choice, or are there any better ones on the market?
a b 4 Gaming
June 29, 2011 5:36:42 AM

marinusV said:
This is the link to the site i'm using: http://www.alternate.nl/html/index.html

even though the site is written in Dutch, a lot is in English and pictures accompany many of the buttons. You should click PC/Notebook --> PC Builder and than the rest will speak for itself.

I think I'm dropping the crossfire and buy a strong single card, either the 560 TI, 570 or 6950, and then later buy a second one. Wich of these is the best choice, or are there any better ones on the market?

This is the one you want for SLI/Crossfire. That board has gotten great reviews.

http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.ht... € 134,90*
ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3) (Retail, FW, RAID, Gb-LAN, Sound, ATX)

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000116#axzz1... <----- Here's a review of that Asrock board from a Belgium site (Mad Shrimps).
June 29, 2011 9:11:34 AM

Thanks for your ideas, I've changed the components of the PC to this:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
GPU: MSI N560GTX-Ti Hawk
PSU: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W
RAM: Corsair 4 GB DDR3-1333 Kit
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3)
harddisk: Seagate ST31000524AS (1tb, 7200 rpm)
Case: MS-TECH CA-0200

with a dvd drive this is 760 euro's

I saw that the 460 dropped from 250 to 150 within 9 moths, so it is quite realistic to presume the 560 Ti will drop from 220 to 100 within a year, and perhaps I'll buy a second one if that happens.

the only thing concerning me now is the case, I have looked at a lot of pre-builds, and they all have fancy looking cases.
Now my question is, is my case good enough and large enough to fin in a second 560 Ti, would I buy one later, or should I buy a better case?

a b 4 Gaming
June 29, 2011 9:42:13 AM

Here's a better psu than that OCZ and it's cheaper. It's manufactured by Seasonic for XFX.

http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.ht... € 88,90*
XFX PRO750W Core Edition

Also MSI has a great free over clocking program called "MSI Afterburner". It would take you all of a few minutes to over clock your video card. No need to spend more money for that MSI Hawk. It's a waste of money.

http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.ht... € 199,90*
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC (Retail, 2x DVI, Mini-HDMI, SLI)

http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.ht... € 26,99*
Corsair 4 GB DDR3-1333 (Light-Retail, CMV4GX3M1A1333C9, Value)
June 29, 2011 10:21:22 AM

Why_Me said:
Here's a better psu than that OCZ and it's cheaper. It's manufactured by Seasonic for XFX.

http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.ht... € 88,90*
XFX PRO750W Core Edition

Also MSI has a great free over clocking program called "MSI Afterburner". It would take you all of a few minutes to over clock your video card. No need to spend more money for that MSI Hawk. It's a waste of money.

http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.ht... € 199,90*
MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC (Retail, 2x DVI, Mini-HDMI, SLI)

http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.ht... € 26,99*
Corsair 4 GB DDR3-1333 (Light-Retail, CMV4GX3M1A1333C9, Value)


thanks, I've changed it.
now I've got this:

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
GPU: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC
PSU: XFX PRO750W Core Edition
RAM: Corsair 4 GB DDR3-1333 Kit
Motherboard: ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3)
harddisk: Seagate ST31000524AS (1tb, 7200 rpm)
Case: MS-TECH CA-0200

all this including a dvd drive is 730 euro


I'm still not sure about the case, is it good enough?

does anyone have got any other suggestions on what I could improve?

Edit: this power supply doesn't support two 560 Ti's, so I'm going back to the OCZ Fatal1ty 750W
a b 4 Gaming
June 29, 2011 10:47:13 AM

Iv'e never heard of that case before so I couldn't tell you. You would have to google a review or manufactures site.

But that XFX most certainly does support two video cards such as those 560's. Several people on here have that psu along with dual 560's.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/XFX-PRO-750-W-Po... <----- Here's that XFX 750w psu

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/27/ms... <----- Here's that MSI 560


Now look at the connectors/cables that come with that psu.
June 29, 2011 3:26:03 PM

Why_Me said:
Iv'e never heard of that case before so I couldn't tell you. You would have to google a review or manufactures site.

But that XFX most certainly does support two video cards such as those 560's. Several people on here have that psu along with dual 560's.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/XFX-PRO-750-W-Po... <----- Here's that XFX 750w psu

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/27/ms... <----- Here's that MSI 560


Now look at the connectors/cables that come with that psu.



the PC builder on the site says it won't work because the PSU need two separate 12 volt circuits for these graphic cards, and this PSU doesn't have that (your review of the PSU also states that in the third line)

but perhaps your right, this site has given me false information before, and it seems rather odd to me too.
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