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$1000-1500 Gaming PC

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June 28, 2011 4:13:09 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Next 3 months, possibly around the release of Deus Ex: Human Revolution, if not, before Battlefield 3's release at latest.

Budget Range: 1000-1500 (flexible)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: KB/Mouse/Monitor/Speakers/OS.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Any (newegg, typically)

Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: None

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 single monitor, no plans to dual monitor

Additional Comments:

I'm looking to build a future-proof system that can play upcoming games comfortably at 60 fps on high settings. I'm not comfortable playing around 30 fps, so my current gpu(4890) running The Witcher 2 at 25-35 just doesn't cut it.

Considering starting off with a 2500K and 6950 2GB to handle games this fall, and getting a motherboard, case, and PSU that can potentially support 6950s in CF so that when the price of the 6950 drops this fall/winter/spring i'd pick up a second, as two right now seems overkill (right?) for single monitor 1920x1080. What do you think? Other options might be 2x 6850 in CF now, instead of waiting to buy a second 6950 down the line. The upcoming release of the 7xxx series (what's the latest rumor news? Q3-4?) might impact my decision here - does a new series release typically drop the price of the previous series immediately/significantly? Would a 7xxx card be worth waiting for? (Need the system before BF3, though!)

I don't care about aesthetics - case LEDs, side windows, etc aren't important to me.

I'm considering going SSD, too, but I'm not sure yet - I could be convinced either way. If i'm going SSD, should I be looking at 2x SSD in Raid 0 or a single, larger SSD? I have Windows 7 for TRIM. I wouldn't be comfortable with <120gb total SSD space, most likely. (90% steam games, so they can be uninstalled/reinstalled easily/quickly, but still - <120gb sounds hard to work with).

Open to any and all advice, thanks in advance!

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June 28, 2011 4:59:07 PM

intel i5 2500k 220$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair XMS3 8gb 57$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3P-B3 178$ Shipped- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

IN WIN BUC 80$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... this case was rated very highly by jonny guru

Scythe Mugen 3 53$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... new version of the scythe mugen 2

LG Dvd Burner 20$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD 60$- http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern...

OCZ agility 3 120gb 195$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... dont mind the bad reviews they have fixed the problem

Pc Power and Cooling 750w PSU 90$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II x2= 560$- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total=1511$ shipped w/m.i.r.

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June 28, 2011 5:07:22 PM

Welcome to the fourms!

In that price range, this is the build I wold go for:

CPU - i5-2500k ~$220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - ASUS P8Z68-V ~$180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II ~$240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt ~ $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - Samsung Spinpoint F3 1Tb ~$65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD - OCZ Vertex 3 120Gb ~$250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 ~$75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case - Silverstone Raven RV02-BW ~$180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler - Noctua NH-D14 ~$90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


All that comes to about $1450 plus shipping, minus any combos or rebates.

I went with that 560 ti because it was such a good deal. It should get you around 45-60 FPS in most games at max settings. If you need 60+ you can either add another or turn the settings down a bit.

You could also shave about $150 off by going with a cheaper cooler, PSU, and/or case but I look at those a little like investments since I would keep reusing them on future builds.

You could also save a few bucks by going with a last gen SSD without sacrificing real world performance.
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June 29, 2011 4:19:14 PM


Pretty pricey for a board, when the Gigabyte P67X-UD3-B3 will do the same job for $30 less. It will support SLI/CF GPUs as well, and although it's not the latest chipset, the OP doesn't need the features of Z68.

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GPU - MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II ~$240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For 1920x1080, stick with the 6950 - beats out the 560Ti in ~90% of the benchmarks. Another perk is that each GPU supports 3-4 monitors, so when you get bored with your setup, you can get more monitors (23"@1920x1080 run as low as $150 these days).

If you buy 2x6850s now, you'll really only meet the requirements to play games at 60fps @ 1920x1080, and you'll have no upgrade potential in 1-2 years without an overhaul.

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PSU - XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt ~ $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crossfired 6950s only need 750W - I'd recommend XFX's 750W, Corsair's TX750 (Version 2), or PC Power and Cooling's Silencer Mk. II 750W. I believe they're all OEMed by Seasonic, but either way they are great and reliable power supplies.

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HDD - Samsung Spinpoint F3 1Tb ~$65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

^+1. It's $55 today on Newegg.


This and the Intel 320/510 SSDs are the ones I'd look at. You won't experience a huge speed increase in game loads off of a SSD, but your boot time will speed up incredibly. Your other option is a 64GB SSD dedicated to the OS and using a HDD for storage (how I'm set up).

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Ram - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 ~$75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Great kit - have 2 of these in my system. I'd recommend them.

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Case - Silverstone Raven RV02-BW ~$180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is a good case (have it as well), but cases are all about personal preference. Take a look at Corsair's HAF Series cases and Antec's 1200/Dark Force cases (a bit dated, but some still like them).


Way too much to spend on a cooler for an i5-2500K; my Cooler Master Hyper 212+ ($30) kept my i7-930 (runs much hotter) below 55C at 100% load, and below 50C on my i5.

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June 29, 2011 4:40:52 PM

Combo deals (these will expire at the end of the month, and may or may not return in about a week)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/314369-31-1000-1500-g...
with promo code PSU624, the above combo is $139 ($129 w/MIR).


Personally, i think that the 6950 2gb are overpriced right now so its a tough call. At $280 they cost 60% more than the $175 sapphire 6870 and provide nowhere near that in terms of performance boost. I think hd6870s (not 6850's) in crossfire are the clear value winner right now, although i agree with some of the arguments in favor of the 6950s.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-crossfirex...


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June 29, 2011 5:03:32 PM

^Yeah, most of the 6950 2GBs I've seen have rebates that drop them down to $250 which isn't bad. Usually the rebate is enough to warrant a check instead of those stupid gift cards as well, which is a plus.
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June 29, 2011 5:36:11 PM

IMO, QuickSync alone warrants the $30 price premium of the z68 Asus board, it save so much time if you do any video encoding at all. Plus if your GPU ever craps out you can always use the iGPU for troubleshooting. I will concede that SSD caching never made much sense to me.

Being able to save some cash on the PSU is a benefit that I didn't consider when deciding between the 560 TI and the 6950. And as stated by boiler, if you decide to go with 6950s a 750w PSU will do nicely. The only caveat there is that I tend to re-use PSUs in my future builds so I like to spend a good chunk of change on a top end PSU and then just keep reusing it until it becomes obsolete or dies.

The CM Hyper 212+ may be the king when it comes to bang-for-buck, but for maximum cooling with minimal noise the Noctua is unparalleled. I'm probably a little anal about noise and cooling so that's why I recommended it (Also why I recommended the RV-02).

I think Boiler and I agree on everything else tho.

Good luck on your build!
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