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MSI versus EVGA GTX 460?

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April 16, 2011 6:06:43 PM

I'm working on a new build and am trying to decide between two version of a card. I'd like any expert input about whether the newegg special is worth hopping on today while I'm still deciding about the rest of my build.

GPU: MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cost: $185
reason: I'd like a bit more power in the GPU than Geofelt recommended in case we increase monitor resolution or pick up a more graphics-intensive game in the future. MSI seemed to have good reliability, and this card design was reviewed as quieter than average. Input is welcome. How much bigger a power supply would I need to support it?

GPU alternative: EVGA 01G-P3-1366-TR GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cost: $120 after rebate (4/16 only)
reason: Newegg daily deal today, hard to beat that price if people think it's an OK card.
April 16, 2011 6:11:11 PM

You don't want the SE version of the gtx 460. It's got some shaders disabled. Stick with non-SE versions of the card for gaming at 1080p.
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 6:13:06 PM

EVGA you listed is an SE card, means 'Smart' Edition, it's reduced clocks, worse performance, less OC headroom, it's like 10% worse than normal 460, for both of them you should have 500W PSU or higher
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April 16, 2011 9:23:08 PM

i would go with the 5850
giving more performance and you can find one for a little over the price of a gtx 460
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 9:36:53 PM

For power supply I'd go with Antec, Corsair, or Seasonic
- 650 watts for a single card
- 850 watts for dual cards

For the graphics are you can pickup 5870's for $200 quite a deal these days as they are phasing them out...

If you want a GTX 460 I'd recommend the MSI Hawks:

$180 for their fastest card, will out perform a GTX 470. Factory OC'd to 811Mhz but they can be further OC'd to near 1Ghz!!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

They run cool, 60C @ 860Mhz in SLI in my system...
April 16, 2011 9:41:17 PM

Right now there is a good sale at Newegg for an ASUS GTX 460. Its $139.99 and with rebate comes out to $109.99, plus free shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With a number of games, the 5850 will come out on top. You can check out an article comparing some of the differences here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...

I would shop for the best price, as either of these cards will be good. The only exception would be if you plan on folding at home, in which case the 460 has a definite advantage.
April 16, 2011 9:52:38 PM

You don't need 650 watts for a single card hahahahaha, more like 500-550 with a decent brand, 700watts for SLI/Crossfire
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 7:49:42 AM

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$180 for their fastest card, will out perform a GTX 470. Factory OC'd to 811Mhz but they can be further OC'd to near 1Ghz!!!


Wrong, they won't out perform GTX 470, but they will perform very close, also you won't be able to OC 460 much over 850 core

OP: that sapphire Xtreme on tigerdirect is probably best bang for buck under 200$, in this price range only 6870 outperforms it, even maximum you'll get from GTX 460 OC won't beat it, but will run close
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 2:25:24 PM

Ah, I left out the word ANY.... when I recommend a 650 watt for ANY Single card. So, if you should happen to want to upgrade to a GTX570 or GTX580 you don't have to run out for a new power supply too....

While an 850watt supply will support ANY Dual card setup...........


I just don't recommend buying a power supply for a specific card. I buy Corsair HX supplies, they come with a 7 year warranty so if you get the right size for any Single card now, you can likely use that same supply for your next couple of system builds as well as for any GPU upgrades down the road....

If you know your Never (in the next 5 to 7 years) going to upgrade your GPU, then go right ahead and get a good 500watt supply that is Sized to the 5850 or 460 cards.... it'll save you a few buck



BTW, the MSI Hawk Talon Attack is factory stock @ 811Mhz. Mine run 860Mhz with No voltage tweaks. The card comes with the ability to tweak three separate voltages. Tweaking just the GPU volts, I can run 925Mhz, so far still a ways to go as temps are in the 60C range.... Many reviewers have hit 980Mhz & some 1Ghz with these cards.


a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 4:20:18 PM

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BTW, the MSI Hawk Talon Attack is factory stock @ 811Mhz. Mine run 860Mhz with No voltage tweaks. The card comes with the ability to tweak three separate voltages. Tweaking just the GPU volts, I can run 925Mhz, so far still a ways to go as temps are in the 60C range.... Many reviewers have hit 980Mhz & some 1Ghz with these cards.


BTW, in home conditions many people don't have a good cooling system and most of people do not even know how to OC, and people who have tried it only several times cannot be compared to reviewers, reviewers are trying to get most of the card to show it's limit.
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