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April 16, 2011 6:40:53 PM

Hi


Im stll searching a GPU for my system and i just received a mail that GTX460 2Gb is released. Is it good on 1280x1024 and is it better than HD6950 2Gb?

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a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 6:44:32 PM

no, GTX 460 2GB is the same thing as GTX 460 1GB, just more memory, and i'm sure it doesn't even use full amount of it's memory, it's not even close to 6950 2GB and is *like the 1GB* worse than 6850
April 16, 2011 6:49:05 PM

At 1280x1024 a GTX240 is probably overkill as it is, let alone with an extra 1GB of memory
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April 16, 2011 6:49:12 PM

shrkbay said:
no, GTX 460 2GB is the same thing as GTX 460 1GB, just more memory, and i'm sure it doesn't even use full amount of it's memory, it's not even close to 6950 2GB and is *like the 1GB* worse than 6850

Oww thanks for the quick reply.
Then im gonna take the HD6950 2Gb :D 
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 6:50:34 PM

^Damn overkill
April 16, 2011 6:54:22 PM

shrkbay said:
^Damn overkill

But futureproof. My objective is to max out every game(except Crysis and Metro 2033) with 50+ fps. Thats why i got a i5 760 3.2Ghz CPU.
April 16, 2011 6:58:53 PM

Oww and i want to max out games for about 2years further.
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 7:02:26 PM

Both those cards are overkill at that resolution. Do you plan to upgrade your monitor soon?
April 16, 2011 7:03:46 PM

Embra said:
Both those cards are overkill at that resolution. Do you plan to upgrade your monitor soon?

Not soon, maybe in next 3 years.
I dont actually care if its overkill. :D 
More fps, better feeling for me :D 
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 7:06:26 PM

What cpu do you have, it could end up restricting those gpu at that resolution.
April 16, 2011 7:07:26 PM

Embra said:
What cpu do you have, it could end up restricting those gpu at that resolution.

Intel i5 760 2.8Ghz OC'ed to 3.2Ghz (maybe ill go higher)
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 7:08:44 PM

6950 on that res will max out metro 2033 with 60FPS vsync on :lol: , up to you, sure you don't wanna wait till new series come out? probably Q3-Q4 this year
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 7:09:28 PM

your cpu is just fine. I would really recommend amonitor upgrade at some point with those cards.
April 16, 2011 7:10:56 PM

shrkbay said:
6950 on that res will max out metro 2033 with 60FPS vsync on :lol: , up to you, sure you don't wanna wait till new series come out? probably Q3-Q4 this year

Well, thats a good idea. Im just 13 and im gonna get 150$ at the end of school from my parents and in summer i will save money for my PC.
April 16, 2011 7:48:34 PM

When exactly will the HD7xxx series come out and will they be much better than HD6xxx series with the new 28nm technology?
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 7:51:58 PM

Quote:
what cpu are you running. At that resolution your putting a lot of effort onto the cpu


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Intel i5 760 2.8Ghz OC'ed to 3.2Ghz (maybe ill go higher)


OP: it's unknown when they will come out, but there are a lot of rumours saying new series will come out Q3 2011, but that's hard to believe *at least seems to me*, 28nm technology will bring us up to 40% more performance for up to 40% less power
April 16, 2011 7:55:08 PM

The current fastest product hold itself as dual gpu single card is the ati 6990 but the ati 6950cf 1gb out performs it.Why didnt you ask us at the cpu forum of the best cpu available?
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 7:58:21 PM

EVGA 2win is better than 6950, but i'm sure it'll cost a lot, like 400$, and it's a dual GPU setup = SLI = issues
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2011 8:02:02 PM

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The current fastest product hold itself as dual gpu single card is the ati 6990 but the ati 6950cf 1gb out performs it.Why didnt you ask us at the cpu forum of the best cpu available?


Because he wants to choose a graphic card not a CPU, 6990 is a damn load of issues, and 6950 1GB CF does NOT out perform it, why does he need the best CPU?
April 16, 2011 8:07:17 PM

shrkbay said:
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The current fastest product hold itself as dual gpu single card is the ati 6990 but the ati 6950cf 1gb out performs it.Why didnt you ask us at the cpu forum of the best cpu available?


Because he wants to choose a graphic card not a CPU, 6990 is a damn load of issues, and 6950 1GB CF does NOT out perform it, why does he need the best CPU?

I was just disappointed with the cpu selected.i5 760.
April 17, 2011 12:22:45 AM

You might consider getting a better monitor - your visual experience may be be better served with a 22" monitor + cheaper graphics card.
April 17, 2011 10:53:33 AM

If you're gonna have all that extra power left with your vid card, make sure to turn supersampling on at 8x. It will get rid of almost all those jagged edges. Multisampling is a waste of fps.
April 17, 2011 12:26:08 PM

you cant afford either with $150
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 12:27:17 PM

he's budget isn't 150 bucks, he said he'll get another 150 bucks at the end of the school year
a c 225 U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 12:56:06 PM

The purpose of the extra memory is to handle bigger resolutions, not increase fps at low resolutions. At lower resolutions, a 1GB 460 will give you the exact same fps as a 2GB 460 ....so what every one is saying, until you get a 2560 x 1600 Monitor, what you're chasing isn't going to help you at all.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

460 (314/592) $0.49 - $0.52
6850 (371/634) $0.42 - $0.49
6870 (434/701) $0.44 - $0.54
6950 (479/751) $0.51 - $0.65
6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $0.59 - $0.75
560 Ti (455/792) $0.53 - $0.61
6970 (526/825) $0.64 - $0.81
560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $0.48 - $0.56
570 (524/873) $0.64 - $0.77
580 (616/953) $0.81 - $1.05
6990 (762/903) $0.95 - $1.61
590 (881/982) $0.79 - $1.43

Your just a bit late, until last week this 560 Ti (900MHz) was $215 or roughly the same price as your 2Gb 460

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A $65 card is more than enough for your resolution. Here's a $159 solution to the resolution issue:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 1:31:21 PM

you can not compare prices when the cards were reviewed to their prices right now
April 17, 2011 2:35:23 PM

If i have a Crossfire motherboard, should i get a ATI card?
If yes then i would get a Sapphire ATI Radeon HD6950 2Gb and flash it to HD6970.
And im searching for the quietest and maybe coolest card.

Oww and if i will have some money i would get this kit (sry for German language but i can get the cheapest from there): http://cgi.ebay.de/NEW-RED-GANGSTER-GAMER-PC-TOWER-CASE...
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 3:15:29 PM

Sapphire probably does not have a dual switch. if you want coolest and quietest then get MSI TF II/III/Golden Edition or ASUS DCuII
if you want CF in the future then probably you'll need to have AMD card, but i'm not sure if your CPU will bottleneck it or not

This one nice kit you listed, probably gonna think if i could buy one for myself :p 
April 17, 2011 3:19:21 PM

shrkbay said:
Sapphire probably does not have a dual switch. if you want coolest and quietest then get MSI TF II/III/Golden Edition or ASUS DCuII
if you want CF in the future then probably you'll need to have AMD card, but i'm not sure if your CPU will bottleneck it or not

This one nice kit you listed, probably gonna think if i could buy one for myself :p 

LoL
If there are four 12V rails and each of them has 32A then is it powerful? :D  Im not smart in PSU things. :D 
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 4:14:19 PM

i had a better one on Fukushima before... ah miss it so much
a c 172 U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 4:19:35 PM

shrkbay said:
no, GTX 460 2GB is the same thing as GTX 460 1GB, just more memory, and i'm sure it doesn't even use full amount of it's memory, it's not even close to 6950 2GB and is *like the 1GB* worse than 6850


That statement is as old as this subject area and is often incorrect. It can use all the memory that it allocated depending on the games played as well the settings. 1gb is very easily wasted these days and such cards are often made to appeal to those who fall into one of two camps on that thinks it is immediately better despite the performance for sales or those who know they actually need such cards. Applications like 3dsmax, autocad, arcmap, and games like gta iv can be real memory hogs in some situations ware the extra memory isn't negotiable but required. There are still R580 and G71 based cards with 1gb floating around for the professional market and 1.5gb G80 based quadros.
a c 271 U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 6:03:59 PM

shrkbay said:
EVGA 2win is better than 6950, but i'm sure it'll cost a lot, like 400$, and it's a dual GPU setup = SLI = issues


I see you keep posting comments like that and so I'd like you provide some more info on these issues that you keep on mentioning as I've been running SLi rigs for some years now and you've got me curious as to what I'm missing.
April 17, 2011 6:49:11 PM

Mousemonkey said:
I see you keep posting comments like that and so I'd like you provide some more info on these issues that you keep on mentioning as I've been running SLi rigs for some years now and you've got me curious as to what I'm missing.

I agree.SLI nor CF hasnt had any issues.It is widely used in almost all games.What issues are you speaking of?
a b U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 7:24:07 PM

^read jjb8675309's posts, every second one is about sh*t load of issues with CF and bad drivers


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That statement is as old as this subject area and is often incorrect. It can use all the memory that it allocated depending on the games played as well the settings. 1gb is very easily wasted these days and such cards are often made to appeal to those who fall into one of two camps on that thinks it is immediately better despite the performance for sales or those who know they actually need such cards. Applications like 3dsmax, autocad, arcmap, and games like gta iv can be real memory hogs in some situations ware the extra memory isn't negotiable but required. There are still R580 and G71 based cards with 1gb floating around for the professional market and 1.5gb G80 based quadros.



There was sarcasm in my words, and probably people, who use these applications, would prefer Quadro to GTX 460


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I see you keep posting comments like that and so I'd like you provide some more info on these issues that you keep on mentioning as I've been running SLi rigs for some years now and you've got me curious as to what I'm missing.


i'm sorry if my friend's 450 SLI runs "bad", i'm just saying you might have issues, you have all the rights not to agree with me.
a c 271 U Graphics card
April 17, 2011 7:33:15 PM

shrkbay said:
i'm sorry if my friend's 450 SLI runs "bad", i'm just saying you might have issues, you have all the rights not to agree with me.

Maybe getting to the source of your friends problem would be a lot more helpful than using it as an excuse to make blanket statements.
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