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April 18, 2011 1:22:35 AM

Hello, can you guys tell me which deal is better of the two for next gen games (fps/rts/simulator)? -this- http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/desktop-computers/... -or- http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9001559.aspx?... Also,how large is the difference between the gfx cards? Thanks guys, ur help is highly appreciated.

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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 18, 2011 1:32:09 AM

The HP Desktop at Bestbuy has a way better graphics card but the Gateway desktop at FutureShop has a much better processor.I would choose the Gateway and then upgrade the Graphics card.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 18, 2011 1:45:53 AM

^ I agree.Building your own computer is always the best thing.
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April 18, 2011 5:39:14 AM

Ah, thanks for your replies. Unfortunately i dont have the time to build my own comp :(  so i need to choose between those two. Would it be wiser to choose the best buy one because a better gfx card > better processor when it comes to games?
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a b U Graphics card
April 18, 2011 5:58:59 AM

If you don't have time then you can always ask a friend or any family member with previous experience to help you with your build.
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a b U Graphics card
April 18, 2011 6:00:41 AM

http://lucomputers.com/
This is the best custom-built computer site I've found. It's like 10% markup on retail part prices plus $70 shipping, but that still comes out hundreds below HP/Gateway with better parts.

Try customizing a computer at lucocomputers.com with the same parts from cyberpower. Don't forget to get a PSU from a good manufacturer (Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, Silverstone, XFX.)
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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 18, 2011 7:56:46 AM

Building your own computer really is the best way to personalize and understand how everything works,it's also a great learning process.
If you don't want to build your own and you still want to just buy a complete PC choose one of these.

i7 2600k + 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Phenom ii X6 1100T + 69501G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would suggest going with the seconds option.It has a good processor and a really powerful GPU.
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a c 86 U Graphics card
April 18, 2011 8:42:54 AM

spitfire93 said:
Unfortunately i dont have the time to build my own comp :( 

it only takes couple of hours to get everything assembled, it's not that big of a task nor is it difficult. You'll just plug stuff into slots and fasten things down with screws :) 
and installing windows is easy as well, just click on the next button lol
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a b U Graphics card
April 18, 2011 12:33:53 PM

If you want prebuilt you can get this

* COOLER MASTER Elite 430 Black Mid-Tower Case w/ Window, ATX, No PSU, Steel/Plastic
* CORSAIR TX650 V2 Power Supply 650W, 80 PLUS® Bronze, 24-pin ATX12V v2.31 EPS12V 2.92, 2x 8/6-pin PCIe
* ASUS P8P67 LE Rev 3.0, LGA1155, Intel® P67, DDR3-2200 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 CF /2, SATA 3 Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 6 Gb/s /3, USB 3.0 /2, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail
* INTEL Core™ i5-2400 Quad-Core 3.1GHz, HD Graphics 2000, LGA1155, 6MB L3 Cache, 32nm, 95W, EM64T EIST TB VT-d VT-x XD, Retail
* KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX Blu PC3-10600 DDR3 1333MHz CL9 (9-9-9) 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
* SAPPHIRE Radeon™ HD 6870 900MHz, 1GB GDDR5 4200MHz, PCIe x16 CrossFire, 2x DVI+HDMI+2x mini-DP, Retail
* SAMSUNG 500GB SpinPoint F3, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200-RPM, 16MB Cache, OEM
* RAID No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
* SONY AD-7261S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner w/ Lightscribe, SATA, OEM
* ASUS VW246H Black LCD Monitor, 24" TFT Full HD, 1920x1080, 0.270mm, 300cd/m², 2ms, DVI/HDMI, VESA, w/ Speakers
* MICROSOFT Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Edition, OEM
* WARRANTY Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty)

$1195.70

http://www.avadirect.com/custom-pc-configurator.asp?PRI...
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a b U Graphics card
April 18, 2011 3:57:39 PM

yup, i agree with the others, you can get a better PC if you build it by yourself
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April 18, 2011 4:50:50 PM

Although I'm a novice, I can attest to building your own. The things you learn and the feeling of accomplishment are both wonderful feelings that entail when creating you own. You find that you save a lot of money at the same time. Also, it's pretty simple. The two most worrysome tasks were putting the mobo in my case, and installing the heatsink on my cpu.

Please don't buy either of those computers. Get the knowledge and quality components to build a killer rig that will last!
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April 18, 2011 7:24:04 PM

No Matter how technologically skilled or unskilled you may be, Building a computer has many benefits, I won't rattle on (most of the points have already been made) Toms Hardware has plenty of guides on building PC's, and youtube has an enormous pool of videos you can tap into for all the tiny details

And lastly (and most importantly) it's great fun!
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a b U Graphics card
April 18, 2011 10:48:58 PM

Nobody actually looked at http://lucocomputers.com, huh? You get to pick every part. So as computer enthusiasts, we can tell the OP excatly what parts to get. AND the OP gets someone else to build it and install Windows. I saw the site in one thread and it's MUCH better than anything from HP or Gateway at the very least.

I'm trying to help the OP--can somebody help me with this? Mosox, not bad compared to OEM, but worse than what you'd get for that price from lucocomputers.
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April 20, 2011 5:14:24 AM

Thanks for your replies. After looking through all your replies, i have decided to have my comp custom built. Hows this look guys?

Link (w/o my customization) http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=EBE64AEB-35FB...
1 x Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB
1 x Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA1155 LGA1156 120MM
1 x MSI P67A-G43 (B3) P67 ATX LGA1155 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E 2PCI SLI CrossFireX SATA3 USB3 Motherboard
1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory
1 x AMD Radeon HD 6950 800MHZ 2GB 5GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2 X DVI HDMI 2 X Mini Display Port
1 x Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB & Audio
1 x Seasonic S12II 520W EPS12V 20/24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 80+ Bronze 6+8PIN PCI-E W/ 120MM Fan
1 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
1 x LG GH22NS50 Black 22X SATA DVD Writer OEM
1 x Please Use The Onboard Sound Card Integrated On My Motherboard
1 x Please Use The Onboard Network Ethernet Card Integrated On My Motherboard
1 x PC Assembly and Testing With 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased)

$1061

i based it off the 1k syst from toms. some feedback would be appreciated (you can change components on the link provided) :) 
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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 20, 2011 7:28:37 AM

I would up the PSU a little.The PSU is a really good quality brand but with some like a 6950 your gonna want a little more head room,maybe even for a crossfire.

XFX 750watt $140=$110 after MIR + $6 Shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Everything else looks really good.I think you got yourself a PC that will last quite a long time.
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a b U Graphics card
April 21, 2011 2:18:34 PM

I second purple stank on the PSU issue.Even though Seasonic makes very good PSUs, you can consider getting one with higher wattage because the PSU is something that you'll not change for a long time.So if you get a more powerful graphics card in the future, you will not be held back by the PSU.
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April 22, 2011 7:01:01 AM

Thanks for ur replies guys :)  im really glad i had my comp custom built instead of buying it from a store like best buy (a sales rep there told me that a gt420 was top of the line gpu...lol). I decided to get my comp built by my local ncix store http://ncix.com/. Here are the specs ( i have 2 days to change any components):

-ASUS P8P67 pro B3 SLI motherboard & intel core i5 2500K unlocked 369.99
-samsungSH-S223C 22X dvd writer SATA black OEM 25.99
-Antec 300 mini tower gaming case 52.99
-Antec truepower New 650W Modular power supply 89.99
ATX 12V V2.3 active PFC 80 plus sli ready
-120mm pwm fan
-Mushlin enhanced silverline stiletto 4gb 2x2gb PC3-10666 42.99
DDR3-1333 9-9-24
duel channel
-Seagate barracuda 7200 12 500gb SATA 3.5in 8.5ms 7200rpm 16mb 49.99
harddrive OEM
-XFX RADEON HD 6950 XXX 830 Mhz 1GB 5.2 GHZ GDDR5 PCI-e 2x DVI 229.99
HDMI 2xmini display port
-Corsair cooling hydro series H60 High performance CPU cooler system 74.99

Total 992.42
Budget 1000.00

So what do u think guys? is the gpu good for the price?
-did i go too far on the cooling sys (do i even need the H60 cooling sys with like 4 fans)? Do i need more than 4g ram?
-Is the power supply too much and too expensive? Please suggest better alternatives. I want to maximize performance with as little unecessary stuff as possible XD (thinking of upping the gpu to 2gb or adding 2 more gb of ram if anything can be saved from the secondary components).
Thank u guys for taking ur time :D . this is a big purchase for a guy who currently playes games on a 4 yr old amd 64.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 22, 2011 8:13:30 AM

You could get a cheaper air cooler instead of that water cooler if you wanted.Air coolers perform just about as good as the H60 but cheaper.It will only save you like $10-$20 so if you don't I understand.But another thing about going air is that you don't have to ditch it after 2 years like those self conatined water cooling systems.
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April 22, 2011 6:51:11 PM

purple stank said:
You could get a cheaper air cooler instead of that water cooler if you wanted.Air coolers perform just about as good as the H60 but cheaper.It will only save you like $10-$20 so if you don't I understand.But another thing about going air is that you don't have to ditch it after 2 years like those self conatined water cooling systems.


hows this http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&vpn=RR%2DB10%2D212P... :) 
I just hope my pc doesnt sound like a jet after all those fans
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a b U Graphics card
April 22, 2011 7:10:07 PM

the CM 212+ is a good choice and with part of the savings I'd switch out the Antec truepower 650W PSU with the Corsair TX750 instead for $115
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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 22, 2011 11:45:18 PM

^Totally agree.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 23, 2011 1:36:41 AM

No don't get that one.It's only capable of supply 550watts on the 12/v.The Antec supplies more power than that one.You can always wait to upgrade the RAM.4G is ideal by todays standards.More would be good but you don't really need it.It's easier to just add RAM later but if you want a new PSU you gotta take it all out and put it together again.Go with the right PSU the first time,it will save you some trouble.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 23, 2011 1:40:10 AM
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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 23, 2011 3:49:05 AM

Well then.Check the prices for those and see if their cheaper than the Corsair one...
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April 23, 2011 6:19:30 AM

purple stank said:
Well then.Check the prices for those and see if their cheaper than the Corsair one...


hmm, the coolmaster 750 is $102 , but since i wont be adding new hardware to my comp for a long time, i wonder if upgrading the psu is necessary :??: 

by the way is coolmaster 700 better than my original antec?
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54152&vpn=RS%2D700%2DPCAA...

or is the corsair 650 as good as my original antec? (saw it on the Toms 1000 gaming pc build :)  )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=26414&vpn=CMPSU%2D650TX&m...
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April 23, 2011 6:23:52 AM

JDFan said:
The thing is She is having NCIX build the system for her so the parts need to be purchased from them !!


lol im actually a dude :lol: 
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a b U Graphics card
April 23, 2011 1:54:25 PM

spitfire93 said:
lol im actually a dude :lol: 


Sorry ! (just assumed from the thread title where you called your father Daddy !)-- the Corsair 650 would also be a good choice - Here is a good site that reviews a lot of Powersupplies that will give you info on the PSUs to make the decision easier - The link is to the corsair 750 review but they have most of the other PSUs reviewed also.
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May 3, 2011 9:22:15 PM

Best answer selected by spitfire93.
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