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July 2, 2011 5:13:21 PM

Hello Tom's Hardware Forums,

I'll be building my first computer soon, and I want to make sure that everything is compatible and good for my needs. I will be using this for gaming primarily, but possibly also 3d modeling. Does everything here fit together, and should I change something?

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

Motherboard: MSI P67A-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Graphics Card: XFX HD-695X-CDFC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

PSU: Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Changed from: Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
Changed from: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBXM

HDD: Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0 Gb-s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare-OEM Drives, HD103SJ
Changed from: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

DVD Burner: LG CD/DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH22NS70 OEM

NOTE: The case, cpu, mobo, psu, ram, and hdd are part of a supercombo on newegg. I'd like to stick to those parts if I can, though obviously if they're not good I won't get them.

Thanks in advance!
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July 2, 2011 5:48:05 PM

i dont think theres anything wrong with that psu. im assuming youre going to be buying the newegg supercombo of all these parts.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

personally i think the hd6950 2gb is painfully overpriced at the moment.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n560gtx-ti-twin-froze...
At 1080p I see no evidence that justifies the current $50 price difference over a factory OC'd gtx 560ti:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 2, 2011 6:57:14 PM

Thanks for your replies everyone. Now it's time for me to respond to you... so quote-fest incoming.

chacol said:
I would get a better PSU. I know this might be out of your budget, but it should last a while for future builds.

SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-151-...


Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't know if I can fit spending $160 on a PSU into my budget right now. What area/s does the power supply I listed need improvement in? I'm guessing that I need more than 650W maximum power, is that correct?

mjmjpfaff said:
that psu is not needed

everything looks good except you can get the samsung spinpoint f3 for the same price (free shipping too)- http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern...

if you can afford it i would go with a gtx 570- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


First, what do you mean the PSU is not needed?
About the HDD, I'm certainly not an expert so I might be wrong, but wouldn't SATA 6 Gb/s be better than 3? Both the listed hard disk and the one you suggested have 1TB of storage, a 32MB cache, and 7200rpm. I'm guessing the HDD you suggested is better because of some of the features Amazon lists (but that I know nothing about :sarcastic: ) like 'Advanced dynamic FOD control'.
As for the graphics card, that's probably the area where I'm most willing to stretch the budget, so if you think it's worth it, then I might go for that.

Timop said:
Looks nice, though heres some recommendations.

CPU+Mobo combo $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Z68 and crossfire for less.

If you don't Crossfire, a higher efficiency 550W should do you better, while if you do, a 750W would be recommended.


I really should have mentioned this in the first post, but the CPU, mobo, case, PSU, HDD, and memory are all part of a newegg super combo. If I really need to change one of the components from the ones in the combo I will, but I'd like to stick with those parts if I can.
I'm probably not going to use Crossfire/SLI. When you're talking about a higher efficiency 550W, you're talking about power supply, right? Like I said earlier, this is my first time building a computer, so I don't know all the terms and abbreviations.

genghiskron said:
i dont think theres anything wrong with that psu. im assuming youre going to be buying the newegg supercombo of all these parts.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

personally i think the hd6950 2gb is painfully overpriced at the moment.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n560gtx-ti-twin-froze...
At 1080p I see no evidence that justifies the current $50 price difference over a factory OC'd gtx 560ti:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I am planning to buy that combo, though I can certainly change plans if any of the parts aren't good enough for what I want to do. Thanks for the graphics card suggestion. I'm very new to this, so would you mind telling me what factory OC'd means? I' m guessing overclocked?

mjmjpfaff said:
here is a good combo. there is also a 20$ m.i.r.- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


Thanks. If I don't get the supercombo I might go for that.

mjmjpfaff said:
if you are just looking for 1 card you can get a factory oc'd 560 ti like gengishkron said. you then could probably afford a 750w psu so you can sli here is a good 560 ti in a combo with a 2500k- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

and here is a good psu for an amazing price- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Yeah, I'm only going to get one card. But this part confuses me: "you then could probably afford a 750w psu so you can sli". I thought Crossfire and SLI were AMD and Nvidia's way of linking more than one GPU together.
That PSU you linked does look really good. It's tempting me to not get the supercombo I'm thinking about, especially if you guys think the one I listed isn't not good enough.
July 3, 2011 4:44:36 AM

humanoidAlien said:
Thanks for your replies everyone. Now it's time for me to respond to you... so quote-fest incoming.



Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't know if I can fit spending $160 on a PSU into my budget right now. What area/s does the power supply I listed need improvement in? I'm guessing that I need more than 650W maximum power, is that correct?



First, what do you mean the PSU is not needed?
About the HDD, I'm certainly not an expert so I might be wrong, but wouldn't SATA 6 Gb/s be better than 3? Both the listed hard disk and the one you suggested have 1TB of storage, a 32MB cache, and 7200rpm. I'm guessing the HDD you suggested is better because of some of the features Amazon lists (but that I know nothing about :sarcastic: ) like 'Advanced dynamic FOD control'.
As for the graphics card, that's probably the area where I'm most willing to stretch the budget, so if you think it's worth it, then I might go for that.



I really should have mentioned this in the first post, but the CPU, mobo, case, PSU, HDD, and memory are all part of a newegg super combo. If I really need to change one of the components from the ones in the combo I will, but I'd like to stick with those parts if I can.
I'm probably not going to use Crossfire/SLI. When you're talking about a higher efficiency 550W, you're talking about power supply, right? Like I said earlier, this is my first time building a computer, so I don't know all the terms and abbreviations.



I am planning to buy that combo, though I can certainly change plans if any of the parts aren't good enough for what I want to do. Thanks for the graphics card suggestion. I'm very new to this, so would you mind telling me what factory OC'd means? I' m guessing overclocked?



Thanks. If I don't get the supercombo I might go for that.



Yeah, I'm only going to get one card. But this part confuses me: "you then could probably afford a 750w psu so you can sli". I thought Crossfire and SLI were AMD and Nvidia's way of linking more than one GPU together.
That PSU you linked does look really good. It's tempting me to not get the supercombo I'm thinking about, especially if you guys think the one I listed isn't not good enough.


first i meant the psu chacol posted is not needed a gold rated psu for you budget would not be that smart

mechanical hdd's cannot take advantage of even sata II since they are slow. really a hdd can be sata 3 and a sata 2 drive is faster (like the one i posted)

2nd you need a bigger psu to sli or crossfire since you are powering 2 cards and usually bigger psu's are more expensive

i personally wouldnt go with the supercombo since you can get a computer that is more upgradeable and will last you longer for around the same price
July 3, 2011 7:15:42 PM

I've changed some of the parts. Are these better choices?

PSU: Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Thanks for linking to this. It looks great and with the mail-in rebate is even cheaper than the one I had!

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7D-8GBRL
The memory I was planning on went out of stock, so I looked around for a bit and found this. It's 1066, but I don't know what impact that will have.

HDD: Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0 Gb-s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare-OEM Drives, HD103SJ
I'm glad mjmjpfaff told me about mechanical HDDs not being able to take advantage of newer SATA revisions. I prefer to get things from Newegg, but the same drive was $65 there, so I'll just go with this one.

I'm still on the fence about the graphics card, but I'll probably get a GTX 570. Please advise on the parts I have here. I'm updating the first post with these choices.
July 4, 2011 4:11:07 AM

no everything else looks good
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