I have eliminated a short through the breadboard method. I have tried 2 sets of ram. I have tried disconnecting all devices. I have tried 3 power supplys and nothing. Some background info, I pulled the mobo out to replace it with a newer one and then right before i packaged it up on ebay i decided to test and post a video of it working so ebayers would bid more confidently. but it just kept rebooting and the SB Volatage light keeps turning red and rebooting the pc. I am not new to computers but this really strikes me as odd. Do you think i could have damaged it with ESD? I had my wrist strape on so it never crossed my mind but who knows. I orderd a POST CARD so i can maybe see if that works.