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April 24, 2011 2:24:27 AM

Hi All,

I built an i7 based system in late 2009 which is still running great, and I love.

I've always had a "bug" in the system whereby quite often, either after startup or after resume from wake, my Gigabyte GTX260 fails to "recognize" and restart both of my 24" 1920 x 1200 monitors. I've tried everything with this - firmware upgrades, cable switches, etc. -- no fix. Gigabyte service was no help. Sometimes I can get them working by plugging/unplugging cables from the card, but this gets onerous ...

I had an offer on my GTX-260 which is pretty fair. And it gives me a chance to get "out" of the card and try another card. I've done some looking around; I'd like to keep the price in the $150-$170 price range. The GTX 460 seems like an option. I'm really unfamiliar with Radeon cards; it seems like a comparable card would be a 6850 or like.

The people on this board have always been great in helping me, and I have a great system because of a lot of the input. If I'm going to take this opportunity to upgrade, what would people recommend? 90% of my system is used for day to day things, web, etc. I do some video editing and watch a fair amount of video - most often on the 2nd screen while I work on the other. I play FSX on occasion - perhaps more in the future. I don't need a top end card, but I'd like to use this as a chance to "upgrade" the system at a reasonable price.

Appreciate any thoughts!

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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 24, 2011 2:52:13 AM

Whats the make/model of your PSU?

I'd say the best card for that price range would be the GTX460 or 6850.Both perform right around the same area but the 6850 pulls ahead just by a little but it will shine more in games with tesselation.But i'd say the fastest card you can get for your money would be the 5850.It is faster than both GTX460 and 6850 and this Saphire one is a ridiculous deal.

Saphire 5850
$140 + Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
April 24, 2011 2:56:04 AM

purple stank said:
Whats the make/model of your PSU?

I'd say the best card for that price range would be the GTX460 or 6850.Both perform right around the same area but the 6850 pulls ahead just by a little but it will shine more in games with tesselation.But i'd say the fastest card you can get for your money would be the 5850.It is faster than both GTX460 and 6850 and this Saphire one is a ridiculous deal.

Saphire 5850
$140 + Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU is an Antec Truepower 750W ATX12V.

Board is a Asus P6T SE LGA 1336.

I like the Sapphire card, but it doesn't have the dual DVIs. The next lowest-price Radeon 5850 jumps to about $185.
a c 214 U Graphics card
April 24, 2011 2:56:38 AM

Look at my previous post
April 24, 2011 3:05:17 AM

purple stank said:
Look at my previous post


Man you guys are good. And fast.

Purple - I'm thinking I'm gonna avoid gigabyte products. Not a great experience with my current one, and their support was poor.

I'm liking both those sapphires. So the 5850 is faster than the 6850? Can someone tell me in layman's terms how that can be .. .(faster and cheaper?)

The Sapphire 6850 you showed has 2 DVI and an HDMI. That's a pretty good mix.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 5850 you cited jy has 1 DVT and 1 HDMI. I"d be ok with a HDMI-->DVI connector. Thanks for reminding me about them. I can't get over the price ... $140 seems like a steal.

Are there any appreciable differences between these two that would affect what I do (like I said, occasionaly gaming with FSx, more commonly just web surfing, some video editing, like to have 1 screen playing my DirecTV feed, etc.)
a c 214 U Graphics card
April 24, 2011 3:08:39 AM

Main difference between the 2 is the crossfire scaling.The 6850 scales at almost 100% while the 5850 crossfire is more near 70%.The other difference is the improved tesselation with the 6xxx series.The 6850 and 6870 were made to replace the 58xx series so they naturally have newer techonolgy but the 5850 is stronger than the 6850 in the fact that it has more stream proccessors and more shaders.
From what your looking to do it seems like a lot of overkill to get one of these cards I might even suggest getting something cheaper but is totally your choice.
a c 376 U Graphics card
April 24, 2011 3:29:00 AM

In gaming at 1920x1200 the HD5850 is roughly 10-15% faster than the HD6850 and over 50% faster than your GTX 260.
If you really don't do much gaming you could go with something cheaper like mentioned above however the current equivalent of the GTX 260s performance is the HD5770 but it is only about $20 cheaper than the HD5850.
a c 214 U Graphics card
April 24, 2011 3:32:28 AM

I think his main concern isn't that he needs a faster card but he needs one thats reliable.
a c 376 U Graphics card
April 24, 2011 3:45:50 AM

Well, Sapphire is a quality brand. Largest brand of video cards in the world with a good reputation.
April 24, 2011 3:46:05 AM

purple stank said:
I think his main concern isn't that he needs a faster card but he needs one thats reliable.


The speed of the GTX260 has not presented any issues to me thus far; it runs FSx at a nice resolution and seems to help with the video editing as well. I've really not hit any bottlenecks with it that I've noted.

I'm never opposed to "future proofing" the system in that this would be a component that would last me for a while. I'm okay with spending a little more for that benefit ... and I do agree it's overkill.

My main problem with the GTX260 has been the startup/resume issue. When I tried to troubleshoot on this forum before we basically got down to "it must be a defect in the card." Gigabyte pointed the finger elsewhere. And by the time it got sorted I was out of warranty. It could just be an incompatibility within my system. So basically I have someone that wants the card which gives me a reason to look to move to a new card, hopefully eliminating this very annoying problem ....

Thanks for the description Purple, but I have to admit I don't understand a lot of that probably because I don't do a lot of gaming (shaders, crossfire scaling, etc.).

So in your opinions a 5770 or a 5850 would like provide me with all the power I need based on what I do (I don't think I'll be becoming a big gamer anytime soon, I just don't want my card to be a limiting factor..), will be at least as powerful as what I have, and will hopefully help me to get rid of these annoying problems..... in theory. :-)

Is that about right?
a c 214 U Graphics card
April 24, 2011 4:25:13 AM

Your everyday computer useage doesn't really warrant such a powerful card like the 5850 so a 5770 seems only fitting.But since the 5850 is so god damn cheap these days,espically the Saphire, you might as well get it.Go ahead and do the deal and get the 5850 you won't be disapointed.

Goodluck
April 24, 2011 4:25:39 AM

ttlnewbie said:
Man you guys are good. And fast.

Purple - I'm thinking I'm gonna avoid gigabyte products. Not a great experience with my current one, and their support was poor.

I'm liking both those sapphires. So the 5850 is faster than the 6850? Can someone tell me in layman's terms how that can be .. .(faster and cheaper?)

The Sapphire 6850 you showed has 2 DVI and an HDMI. That's a pretty good mix.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 5850 you cited jy has 1 DVT and 1 HDMI. I"d be ok with a HDMI-->DVI connector. Thanks for reminding me about them. I can't get over the price ... $140 seems like a steal.

Are there any appreciable differences between these two that would affect what I do (like I said, occasionaly gaming with FSx, more commonly just web surfing, some video editing, like to have 1 screen playing my DirecTV feed, etc.)



Not sure what state you're in, but Gigabyte support, California, was great for me. When they could repair my X58A-UD7 Rev 1 MB, they replaced it with a revsion2. My main system was only down for 2 weeks. :D 
April 24, 2011 8:39:29 PM

I would get the AMD 6950. I just bought two of these to replace my dual gtx 260s and they are MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH faster. I love these cards. If I could go back in time and change my video card purchase when I bought my 6950s, I wouldn't change a thing. I love these cards...
April 25, 2011 3:04:29 AM

jednx01 said:
I would get the AMD 6950. I just bought two of these to replace my dual gtx 260s and they are MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH faster. I love these cards. If I could go back in time and change my video card purchase when I bought my 6950s, I wouldn't change a thing. I love these cards...


Those do look nice but are way out of my price range for this one .... I'm leaning to the 5850 deal as posted earlier ....
a c 214 U Graphics card
April 25, 2011 3:18:23 AM

Did you make your purchase yet?
April 25, 2011 12:44:11 PM

purple stank said:
Did you make your purchase yet?


Haven't pulled the trigger yet ... but I'm looking at these two ...

Sapphire 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sapphire 5850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-102-...

I'll start off by acknowledging that they're both overkill for me. That said the price is in the range I can do and the 6850 is not much more than a 5850. Real world performance, i'm not sure either one would make a big difference for me. Any thoughts? I'd like to get it ordered in the next few hours for 2 day shipping ....
April 25, 2011 3:53:12 PM

bump - anyone?
April 25, 2011 7:45:11 PM

I had almost decided on the 5850 .... but now I'm reading lots of stories on NewEgg about flickering on the 2nd screen when running the 5850 on dual monitors. Particulary when watching video on the 2nd screen ... since that's a LOT of what I do ... does anyone have experience with this? Has this been resolved at this point?

The 6850 is slightly slower on some benchmarks and a slight bit more expensive, but i'd do it if I'd be guaranteed a more trouble free performance with the dual screens ....
a c 214 U Graphics card
April 25, 2011 9:41:02 PM

Is their is indeed a problem with that Saphire 5850 you can always send it back because it's covered under warranty.
a c 376 U Graphics card
April 25, 2011 9:53:27 PM

I'd either go for the HD5850 or downgrade to an HD5770. The HD5770 will match your old card which if I'm not mistaken was fulfilling what you needed if it wasn't for the weird issues you were having.
April 26, 2011 12:24:35 PM

purple stank said:
Is their is indeed a problem with that Saphire 5850 you can always send it back because it's covered under warranty.


Yeah, but the issues is that I'll have no extra video card for that time ....
a c 214 U Graphics card
April 26, 2011 1:00:59 PM

Do you have an intergreted GPU?
April 26, 2011 1:02:44 PM

purple stank said:
Do you have an intergreted GPU?


No, I don't. Thought about that one already. :-) I'm not a total newbie (despite the name)

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a c 214 U Graphics card
April 26, 2011 1:19:23 PM
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Well it is a hypothetical.I'm not saying it will but it's possible.
You could always go with the 6850 of your choice(dual dvi inputs).
I'm almost ceratin tho whe the XFX version of the 5850 comes back into stock it will be the same price.
April 26, 2011 1:21:29 PM

purple stank said:
Well it is a hypothetical.I'm not saying it will but it's possible.
You could always go with the 6850 of your choice(dual dvi inputs).
I'm almost ceratin tho whe the XFX version of the 5850 comes back into stock it will be the same price.


I think I may just do the 6850; a friend is waiting on the 260GTX, so I hate to keep them waiting.

Thanks for all of your help everyone - this is one area I really don't keep up with well and is really complex, so the guidance is very much appreciated.

a c 214 U Graphics card
April 26, 2011 1:44:02 PM

I'm sure you will be happy either way.Defnitly will enjoy the performance boost.

Goodluck.
a c 271 U Graphics card
April 26, 2011 3:20:26 PM

ttlnewbie said:
bump - anyone?


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May 3, 2011 12:09:32 AM

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May 3, 2011 12:10:16 AM

Thanks again for everyone's help. The 6850 is working great. It's a slight performance bump vs. the 260GTX, but most of all it does seem to have cured the weird issue I was having with the monitors.

Really appreciate the advice.
a c 271 U Graphics card
May 3, 2011 4:12:11 PM

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