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April 24, 2011 9:46:36 AM

Hi

I have a gateway sx2800-02h, Nvidia Geforce g210 and I wanted to upgrade my graphics card.

picture of computer http://img156.imageshack.us/i/img0640j.jpg/

Pentium dual core E5200 2.50GHZ


Alright, I measured my PSU and got 3.2x2.1x7.7
Should I get one of these psu?

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-KDM-300W-M [...] 2204wt_905

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] CatId=1077

or is there something better?

After I figure out my PSU, which graphics card should I get the Radeon 5570 or 5670?
Whats the difference between the brands? xfx hsi ati gigabyte etc
a c 112 U Graphics card
April 24, 2011 2:27:04 PM

make sure you have the power for a 5770(if it has a stock 220, it may be pushing it a bit hard. this coming from the person running an I5/5770 on a 300 watt psu :) ). thats is one of the fastest cards you will find in low profile.

Remember it is also 2 slots thick, so make sure you have room for it.

You may have to back off to something like a 5570. or look for a better power supply, they sell them, but not too many.

This look close to yours? i know its discontinued, but gives an idea.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2011 2:31:55 PM

I though the LP version was only 1 slot?
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April 24, 2011 10:18:38 PM

nukemaster said:
but now its not low profile.



What should I do nuke?
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a c 112 U Graphics card
April 25, 2011 1:24:13 AM

I would bet the 5570 is about all you can cram in there. It should take no more then 40 watts at max load and less when idle.

just make sure it is one with the 2 low profile brackets. some have a 2 slot low profile bracket, and that is not good for you.

something like this, then you can get rid of the vga port and call it done.
http://techgage.com/viewimg/?img=/reviews/ati/hd_5570/a...

Most other cards tend to be too tall to fit.
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April 25, 2011 8:17:30 AM

nukemaster said:
I would bet the 5570 is about all you can cram in there. It should take no more then 40 watts at max load and less when idle.

just make sure it is one with the 2 low profile brackets. some have a 2 slot low profile bracket, and that is not good for you.

something like this, then you can get rid of the vga port and call it done.
http://techgage.com/viewimg/?img=/reviews/ati/hd_5570/a...

Most other cards tend to be too tall to fit.


Do I still have to upgrade the power supply?
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a c 112 U Graphics card
April 25, 2011 1:40:04 PM

What cpu do you have in there?
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a b U Graphics card
April 27, 2011 1:28:26 AM

Check out this 300w seasonic ($48)or this 300w ($35)FPS power supply. The Seasonic is just a bit different (6.9" x 3.3" x 2.8")

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd probably go with a 6570 and the 300w Seasonic if it fits, the FPS if the seasonic won't. The 5670 would also be a good choice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

a link that includes comparisons of the 5670 and the 6570

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4278/amds-radeon-hd-6670-...
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April 27, 2011 5:48:50 AM

dirtmountain said:
Check out this 300w seasonic ($48)or this 300w ($35)FPS power supply. The Seasonic is just a bit different (6.9" x 3.3" x 2.8")

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd probably go with a 6570 and the 300w Seasonic if it fits, the FPS if the seasonic won't. The 5670 would also be a good choice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

a link that includes comparisons of the 5670 and the 6570

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4278/amds-radeon-hd-6670-...


The power supply wont fit :( 
It's EXTREMELY tight, the only thing I have extra space for is length.

How about these?

http://www.anitec.ca/product/544047/shuttle-300-w-atx12...
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14180AC0348&v...
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a b U Graphics card
April 27, 2011 6:38:58 AM

Although i've heard that Shuttle makes good power supplies, i don't have any reliable reviews of them. I wouldn't have any problem running the 6570/5670 with your system and a reliable 300w power supply.
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April 27, 2011 7:05:17 AM

The only power supply that fits and has atleast 300w is shuttle, I guess I'll have go with this.
What could go wrong though?

Which video card do you recommend? I'll spend up to 80$ on it, please give direct link if possible.
I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I've been looking up the 5670 and I think it's a bit too tall

thanks!
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a b U Graphics card
April 27, 2011 7:45:23 AM

I'd prefer the Powercolor due to the DDR5 (Toms Hardware benchmarks and Anandtech used a DDR5 version of the card), but it's $15 more expensive then the Sapphire DDR3 version.

*EDIT* Link removed ! It was a full sized card.
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a c 112 U Graphics card
April 27, 2011 4:55:13 PM

If you got a power supply that fits and the low profile 6570, it should be a good upgrade for you. No 5770, but still far better then a Geforce 210.

@ dirtmountain. The card you link is NOT low profile
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April 27, 2011 5:02:57 PM

I should cancel my order then? I got the one he linked me.
I looked at the msi low profile ready card and it looks too tall due to the fan.

I'm going to wait and see, if it doesn't fit, I'll just have to return it.
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a c 112 U Graphics card
April 27, 2011 6:00:03 PM

Can you link the exact card you ordered?
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a b U Graphics card
April 27, 2011 7:48:13 PM

You're right nukemaster, the link to the powercolor was a full sized card, i'd thought i'd done a search for low profile or low profile ready. My mistake.
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April 27, 2011 8:20:34 PM

nukemaster said:
Can you link the exact card you ordered?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Does this mean this won't fit for sure?

MSI low profile wont fit because of the fan and the only other low profile 6570 card that I could find is ASUS, but none of the online stores sell them.
Should I just stick with 5770?
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April 28, 2011 1:05:23 AM

nukemaster said:
You could check with sapphire to see if the one you linked earlier has the low profile bracket included.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MUST I have the low profile bracket to fit the video card?
Or can I fit a regular size, but I just can't close the side case?
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a c 112 U Graphics card
April 28, 2011 1:08:38 AM

You can not close the case or screw the card in place. It will still function. I have done it before, but just to test a card.
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April 28, 2011 1:10:26 AM

nukemaster said:
You can not close the case or screw the card in place. It will still function. I have done it before, but just to test a card.


Haha, I guess that's what I'll do for now until I find the bracket somewhere else.
One more thing, what's faster/better? 5770 or 6570?
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a c 112 U Graphics card
April 28, 2011 1:12:09 AM

Well, the big card is so big the case will not close(low profile bracket or not). The smaller sapphire one, will fit with the bracket.
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April 28, 2011 1:17:00 AM

I'm going to have a funny looking computer, the power supply wont fit perfectly because the outlet isnt aligned with the case's hole. Hm..I think I'll return the powercolor 6570 after I try it out on my computer, which card would you prefer, 6570 or 5770?
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a c 112 U Graphics card
April 28, 2011 1:18:50 AM

the 6570 is a faster card, just as long as you have the lower to run it(its not that power hungry, they recommend a 400 watt psu, but that is overkill. I run a 5770 on a 300 watt without any issues and it never even maxes the power supply).
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April 28, 2011 1:20:13 AM

nukemaster said:
the 6570 is a faster card, just as long as you have the lower to run it(its not that power hungry).


Is 300w okay? I have my DVD drive unplugged too.
Edit: And does DDR3 / DDR5 make a big difference? sorry for all the questions xD
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a c 112 U Graphics card
April 28, 2011 1:56:55 AM

300 watts is just one number, the important number is how much wattage it can deliver on its 12 volt rail(s). You see, there are 500 watt power supplies out there that deliver less then a good 250 watt psu on its 12 volt rail(s).

The memory type on the video card has a direct impact on its overall speed. Even more so is you are using extra eye candy in your games.
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a c 112 U Graphics card
April 28, 2011 2:04:31 PM

It does not, but with only a e5200, your system us NOT going to be that power hungry.

The info will be on the label of the power supply when you get it.
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