Upgrading low profile graphics card

Hi

I have a gateway sx2800-02h, Nvidia Geforce g210 and I wanted to upgrade my graphics card.

picture of computer http://img156.imageshack.us/i/img0640j.jpg/

Pentium dual core E5200 2.50GHZ


Alright, I measured my PSU and got 3.2x2.1x7.7
Should I get one of these psu?

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-KDM-300W-M [...] 2204wt_905

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] CatId=1077

or is there something better?

After I figure out my PSU, which graphics card should I get the Radeon 5570 or 5670?
Whats the difference between the brands? xfx hsi ati gigabyte etc
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  1. make sure you have the power for a 5770(if it has a stock 220, it may be pushing it a bit hard. this coming from the person running an I5/5770 on a 300 watt psu :)). thats is one of the fastest cards you will find in low profile.

    Remember it is also 2 slots thick, so make sure you have room for it.

    You may have to back off to something like a 5570. or look for a better power supply, they sell them, but not too many.

    This look close to yours? i know its discontinued, but gives an idea.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151070
  2. I though the LP version was only 1 slot?
  3. The card generates too much heat for a single slot cooler.

    http://www.techpowerup.com/123610/PowerColor_Low-Profile_HD_5700_Series_Cards_Spotted.html

    Unless there is on i have not seen, i was looking at those for sff cases before.
  4. I opened up my case and the power supply was labeled

    Delta electronics DPS 220UB - http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/LITEON-PS-5221-06-Delta-DPS-220UB-A-Micro-Power-Supply-/110589487143#ht_2441wt_905

    Here's a link inside my computer

    http://img156.imageshack.us/i/img0640j.jpg/

    power supply bottom right

    graphics card top right

    incase someone got confused lol

    Will I be able to upgrade my power suppply?
  5. yummerzzz said:
    Not sure if you can Upgrade your PSU, but I do know that XFX make a single slot HD 5770 :

    http://dropship.weareelectricals.com/products/XFX%7B47%7DATI-Radeon-HD-5770-1024MB-PCI%252dE-2.1-Mini%252dDisplayPort-Graphics-Card.html

    but now its not low profile.
  6. nukemaster said:
    but now its not low profile.



    What should I do nuke?
  7. I would bet the 5570 is about all you can cram in there. It should take no more then 40 watts at max load and less when idle.

    just make sure it is one with the 2 low profile brackets. some have a 2 slot low profile bracket, and that is not good for you.

    something like this, then you can get rid of the vga port and call it done.
    http://techgage.com/viewimg/?img=/reviews/ati/hd_5570/ati_hd_5570_02.jpg&desc=ATI%20Radeon%20HD%205570%20-%20Sapphire%20Card

    Most other cards tend to be too tall to fit.
  8. nukemaster said:
    I would bet the 5570 is about all you can cram in there. It should take no more then 40 watts at max load and less when idle.

    just make sure it is one with the 2 low profile brackets. some have a 2 slot low profile bracket, and that is not good for you.

    something like this, then you can get rid of the vga port and call it done.
    http://techgage.com/viewimg/?img=/reviews/ati/hd_5570/ati_hd_5570_02.jpg&desc=ATI%20Radeon%20HD%205570%20-%20Sapphire%20Card

    Most other cards tend to be too tall to fit.


    Do I still have to upgrade the power supply?
  9. What cpu do you have in there?
  10. Pentium dual core E5200 2.50GHZ

    Alright, I measured my PSU and got 3.2x2.1x7.7
    Should I get one of these psu?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-KDM-300W-Mini-ITX-Micro-FLEX-ATX-POWER-SUPPLY-/320609658722?pt=PCA_UPS&hash=item4aa5d32762#ht_2204wt_905

    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3655206&CatId=1077

    or is there something better?

    After I figure out my PSU, which graphics card should I get the Radeon 5570 or 5670?
    Whats the difference between the brands?
  11. Although i've heard that Shuttle makes good power supplies, i don't have any reliable reviews of them. I wouldn't have any problem running the 6570/5670 with your system and a reliable 300w power supply.
  12. The only power supply that fits and has atleast 300w is shuttle, I guess I'll have go with this.
    What could go wrong though?

    Which video card do you recommend? I'll spend up to 80$ on it, please give direct link if possible.
    I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934&cm_re=radeon_6570-_-14-102-934-_-Product

    I've been looking up the 5670 and I think it's a bit too tall

    thanks!
  13. I'd prefer the Powercolor due to the DDR5 (Toms Hardware benchmarks and Anandtech used a DDR5 version of the card), but it's $15 more expensive then the Sapphire DDR3 version.

    *EDIT* Link removed ! It was a full sized card.
  14. Alright, I just ordered the power supply and video card online, I hope this all fits!

    I'm a bit worried about the video card though, this looks exactly like the one I have right now

    You think it'll be okay? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187106&cm_re=geforce_210-_-14-187-106-_-Product
  15. If you got a power supply that fits and the low profile 6570, it should be a good upgrade for you. No 5770, but still far better then a Geforce 210.

    @ dirtmountain. The card you link is NOT low profile
  16. I should cancel my order then? I got the one he linked me.
    I looked at the msi low profile ready card and it looks too tall due to the fan.

    I'm going to wait and see, if it doesn't fit, I'll just have to return it.
  17. Can you link the exact card you ordered?
  18. You're right nukemaster, the link to the powercolor was a full sized card, i'd thought i'd done a search for low profile or low profile ready. My mistake.
  19. nukemaster said:
    Can you link the exact card you ordered?


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131400&cm_re=radeon_6570-_-14-131-400-_-Product

    Does this mean this won't fit for sure?

    MSI low profile wont fit because of the fan and the only other low profile 6570 card that I could find is ASUS, but none of the online stores sell them.
    Should I just stick with 5770?
  20. You could check with sapphire to see if the one you linked earlier has the low profile bracket included, or if one can be purchased.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934&cm_re=radeon_6570-_-14-102-934-_-Product
  21. nukemaster said:
    You could check with sapphire to see if the one you linked earlier has the low profile bracket included.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934&cm_re=radeon_6570-_-14-102-934-_-Product


    MUST I have the low profile bracket to fit the video card?
    Or can I fit a regular size, but I just can't close the side case?
  22. You can not close the case or screw the card in place. It will still function. I have done it before, but just to test a card.
  23. nukemaster said:
    You can not close the case or screw the card in place. It will still function. I have done it before, but just to test a card.


    Haha, I guess that's what I'll do for now until I find the bracket somewhere else.
    One more thing, what's faster/better? 5770 or 6570?
  24. Well, the big card is so big the case will not close(low profile bracket or not). The smaller sapphire one, will fit with the bracket.
  25. I'm going to have a funny looking computer, the power supply wont fit perfectly because the outlet isnt aligned with the case's hole. Hm..I think I'll return the powercolor 6570 after I try it out on my computer, which card would you prefer, 6570 or 5770?
  26. the 6570 is a faster card, just as long as you have the lower to run it(its not that power hungry, they recommend a 400 watt psu, but that is overkill. I run a 5770 on a 300 watt without any issues and it never even maxes the power supply).
  27. nukemaster said:
    the 6570 is a faster card, just as long as you have the lower to run it(its not that power hungry).


    Is 300w okay? I have my DVD drive unplugged too.
    Edit: And does DDR3 / DDR5 make a big difference? sorry for all the questions xD
  28. 300 watts is just one number, the important number is how much wattage it can deliver on its 12 volt rail(s). You see, there are 500 watt power supplies out there that deliver less then a good 250 watt psu on its 12 volt rail(s).

    The memory type on the video card has a direct impact on its overall speed. Even more so is you are using extra eye candy in your games.
  29. Here's a good article about how much power a somewhat similar to yours actually uses. (E8600/HD4850) The HD4850 actually uses about 40+watts more then the 5770.
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/system-wattage_6.html#sect0

    http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264

    and sorry about the bum link earlier.
  30. This is the power supply that I got

    http://www.directcanada.com/products/sku=14180AC0348&vpn=PC60&manufactureSHUTTLE

    Does it tell you anything about how much wattage it delivers?

    I've been googling how many watts a radeon 6570 use and most sites have been telling 44W
    I think thats a good number :D

    @dirt its okay :)
  31. It does not, but with only a e5200, your system us NOT going to be that power hungry.

    The info will be on the label of the power supply when you get it.
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