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The Radeon 6790. Value? NZ

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April 26, 2011 6:19:10 AM

Hi there,


i am in new zealand and am building myself a new gaming rig My Plan

i basically would like advice on the Gpu i should choose please. i play the crysises and metro 2033 but i dont expect metro to run on very high :) 

So the four main choices are the 5770, 6790, gts 450 and the gtx 550ti

The 5770 retails here in NZ for between NZD$190 (powercolor and HIS models ) and $260 (MSI special cooling type models which is US$151 to $206

The 6790 retails for around NZD$250 or US$198, but i found a Sapphire for NZD$238 which is US$189

The GTS 450 retails from about NZD$180 ( an Asus Direct CU model ) to $240, which is USD$143 to $190

The 550Ti retails from NZD$260 to over $300, which is USD$206 and up

Ive been told the 6850 is a good choice, but considering is costs about NZD$290, USD$230, its a little bit outside my range

So, what do you guys/gals think is a good choice for me? I know here in NZ we get a bit overcharged for our graphics and pretty much all our computer stuff.

My budget is about NZD $900 ( USD$715 ) and im willing to use overseas sites considering their shipping is reasonable

So any help appreciated, thanks in advance :) 

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April 26, 2011 7:51:36 AM

Have you looked at the prices for the 5850 in your region?Their are 2 versions here selling for $140(Saphire and XFX).Hopefully the prices are the same in your region.

So you have around $700 US to spend on this new build?Why are you going with an Athlon ii x4?
You could easily get a Sandy Bridge i5.
Also didn't know if you intended to but you have selected a Micro ATX mobo.For the price your paying for it you can easily get afull size mobo.Micro ATX mobo can cause pains when trying to upgrade,and they will have problems fitting full sized GPU's.

If you do have to make a choice out of those selected GPU's the 5770 is easily the fastest out of the bunch,it is a bit old tech but it is still way faster than any of those cards.
April 26, 2011 8:09:45 AM

I have posted in your first thread
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April 26, 2011 10:22:26 AM

6790 is probably the fastest of them, then comes 550 and then 5770, i'd leave 550 out cause it's worse than 6790 and more expensive, imo best bang for buck is 450, then 5770 and 6790, while 550 is far away
April 26, 2011 11:11:11 AM

The 5770 isn't far behind at all against the 6790.The 5770 consumes less power and is cheaper than the 6790.On average the 5770 only falls 2-5fps behind the 6790.The only point i see in getting the 6790 is the tesselation,it is much more improved but i don't see the point in spending and extra $30 for it.The GTS450 is not great at all when compared to the 6790 or 5770.

Numbered for most to least powerful.
1)6790
2)5770
3)550ti
4)GTS450

6790/5770/550ti/GTS450 Review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4260/amds-radeon-hd-6790-...

Honestly i feel the 5770 is the better deal only because it's cheapeer but it's still the better buy.Still if you do see the 5850 for $140 you should choose that over anything.
April 26, 2011 3:31:24 PM

no way, 550 is stronger than 5770 (only a bit), but weaker than 6790 (also only a bit), while 450 is weaker than 5770 by a bit

As OP said the prices there are:
GTS 450 - 143$ -190$
GTX 550Ti - 206$
HD 5770 - 151$ - 206$
HD 6790 - 189$ - 198$

with these prices 550 is out and 6790 is just a bad deal, while 5770's and 450's price vs performance is the same, but the thing is that 450 has PhysX, is a bit cheaper (but performs worse) and there are more games that prefer nVidia than AMD and SLI (if the OP will go for it in the future) is a bit more supported. Of course if OP wants to have best performance from the card 5770 is the way to go, but the difference really isn't that big...
April 26, 2011 4:14:25 PM

I would much rather pick a 5770 over a GTS450 anyday.The only real reason i would see in getting a 6790 or a 550ti is just the tesselation and Crossfire/SLI scaling.
You should post back if you find a 5850 on sale.

EDIT : It seems that the 6790 is better than the 5770 in every game not just using tesselation so if the price is good go for the 6790.If not the 5770 is just as good only lagging by like 3 fps.The 550ti isn't really the best card when the 6790 and 5770 can perform better for cheaper.The 550 performs last in all reviews except in extreme tesselation.But again the performance of these cards compared is so narrow it doesn't really matter.The maximum difference in performance between the 550ti/5770/6790 is about 5fps.Just pick which ever one is cheapest.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6790-review/16
April 26, 2011 6:32:48 PM

I think it is of no value,better go with the hd 5850 extreme as they are dirt cheap.
April 26, 2011 7:27:01 PM

^ he is in New Zealand, prices are higher there and it probably might be out of his price range. BTW, Purple Stank, I have never heard that 500 series have improved SLI scaling, is it true what you said?
April 26, 2011 7:39:07 PM

Yes, all of the new cards being released from ATI and Nvidia have extremely improved SLI/Crossfiring scaling and improved tesselation performance.
Yes he is in NZ but i figured since this wave of sales for the 5850 is happening it might be possible to find one over their also.I believe their trying to get rid of them to make room for all of the 6xxx series cards.
April 26, 2011 10:04:05 PM

purple stank said:

So you have around $700 US to spend on this new build?Why are you going with an Athlon ii x4?
You could easily get a Sandy Bridge i5.
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The cheapest Sandy i5 here in NZ is the i5 2300 which sells for NZD$270 or USD$214
LGA1155 motherboards are from NZD$150 or USD$119 and up

as for the full atx size mobo for the athlon, i found the cheapest one to come in at NZD$170 or USD$135

i suppose the point of this build is to get the most graphics out of it and thats why i chose the 6790.
the 6850 and the 5850 retail for about the same here, at about NZD$300 or USD$238.

i could get one of these but id have to cut back to an Athlon x2 and does that have enough power for what i want?

also, what do you guys think of iCute cases? i found this one iCute K02-4ga and it looks pretty good. id like to have a side window and the hdd dock, and this and the antec are the only two cases with the dock in my price range i think

i came up with a build using the i5 2300 and an asus p8h61 that comes up at 850NZ but that doesnt include a graphics card, do you think its worth shelling out for a good i5 and saving up for the gpu? ive been using intel hd so far on my laptop and i can wait a bit for something better
April 26, 2011 10:11:58 PM

Yah that case looks like.Reminds me of a Thermaltake case i've seen somewhere.
April 26, 2011 10:19:11 PM

purple stank said:
Yah that case looks like.Reminds me of a Thermaltake case i've seen somewhere.

What exactly do you need to purchase for this new build?I think we can actually make this work.


i need everything but the dvd drive ( i can use an old one but it is ide) and i can use my old monitor (1280x1024 crt) because thats probably the least important part for me and id like a 24" hd screen when i do buy one some day :) 

im wondering wether everything would still work and be fast on an x2? that would knock 50 off back into the gpu budget.

the psu i chose in my build doesnt have to stay of course, i just chose it because it got that award from hardware secrets while still being under NZD$100. there is a thermaltake lite power 700w that retails for the same price, would that be the better choice?

when i do get my full hd 24 incher, i dont expect to play metro on very high 1080p with this build, ive heard metro is very demanding.

so CPU, MOBO, RAM, HDD, CASE, PSU and GPU to buy :) 
April 26, 2011 10:42:44 PM

No don't get the that Thermaltake PSU,if it's priced the same as a 550watt then it's likely that it's not even as good and it will probably end of deleivering the same amount of power on the 12/v rail.

Well in order to get an i5 you might have to cheap out on the case and HDD,possibly the RAM too but I know you can get 4G for really cheap.That should give you some extra funding for the i 5 and mobo.Don't get a dual core.Thats the last thing you want to do.More and more games are starting to take advantage of 4 cores or more so getting a dual core would be going backwards.

Whats the price of the i5 2500k in NZ to USD?
Try browsing for a mobo and a i5 2500k and a 4G(2x2G sticks) memory that will work with the board.
April 26, 2011 11:00:59 PM

purple stank said:

Whats the price of the i5 2500k in NZ to USD?
Try browsing for a mobo and a i5 2500k and a 4G(2x2G sticks) memory that will work with the board.


The 2500k costs NZD$325 USD$258
the cheapest lga1155 mobo i can find is Asus P8H61 and costs NZD$158 or USD$125

the cheapest ddr3 4GB 2x2GB is Kingston Valuram 4gbfor NZD$71 or USD$56 but you can get one stick with 4GB for NZD$66 or USD$52 and that would let me upgrade to 8GB easily i suppose or is it reccomended to have two sticks?

the cheapest cases here are Aywun branded which ive never heard of before such as this one and they are really ugly but cheap at NZD$43 USD$34

yea i thought it wolud be pointless to get a dual core, the cheapest amd quad is NZD$150 USD$119
and the cheapest intel quad is the i5 2300 for NZD$270 or USD$214
April 27, 2011 12:33:59 AM

Is that site your getting that from in NZ money?
Ill just browse and see if I can find something.

I figured the i5 would be that much but thats a good deal on the mobo,$20 more and I think you got a good one.
The RAM runs in Dual Channel Mode so it is preferried that you get 2 sticks(kinda like a dual core,they work together)But if you get a 4G single stick thats not bad it just will run in single mode(like old school RAM).Nothing wrong with that jsut you loose a little performance.
Yah don't get that case.Weren't you going with the Antec 200?How much is that?
April 27, 2011 12:36:29 AM

Are their any other sites you can buy from?
April 27, 2011 6:38:43 AM

purple stank said:
Are their any other sites you can buy from?


this is the lowest price finding website here, kinda like US's pricegrabber or similar sites.

here are a few more places im willing to shop, they just seem to be a little more expensive

Computer Lounge
Tastech - these people have the cheapest radeon 6790 i mentioned above
Elive
Playtech
Ifocus

i think it might be worth having just the one stick for now, cause metro 2033 reccomends 8gb ram ( LOL ) and it would be cheap to upgrade.

if i got the i5 2500k, i could use the intel 3000 graphics for the time being in order to fit it into my 900 budget, i dont think id hate the intel graphics that much since im used to using intels last gen HD graphics.

aparently metro isnt playable on the last gen but i play it well, only lagging when theres a lot of people around, which is about one level in the entire game

also Computer lounge have a combo saver thing im using now and will report back on soon






April 27, 2011 1:37:53 PM

^why not Phenom II x4? It's a lot better than Athlon and cost around 40$ more i guess... BTW, i think intel 3000 graphics are quite weak *i'm not sure*, maybe weaker than myATI 3000, and i can't run any game on max's, so i wouldn't hope on that much... Also in Metro 2033 you won't see almost any performance increase with 8GB over 4GB, your system will still use it, but the performance might not change, it's the same as with the 2x2GB, but the idea is good.
April 28, 2011 6:26:55 AM

shrkbay said:
^why not Phenom II x4? It's a lot better than Athlon and cost around 40$ more i guess... BTW, i think intel 3000 graphics are quite weak *i'm not sure*, maybe weaker than myATI 3000, and i can't run any game on max's, so i wouldn't hope on that much... Also in Metro 2033 you won't see almost any performance increase with 8GB over 4GB, your system will still use it, but the performance might not change, it's the same as with the 2x2GB, but the idea is good.


I could go with a phenom x4 but with some of the benchmarks ive seen they dont have much difference with athlons of around the same specs. id like to have 8gb ram just so i can say i have ram :)  anyway the second stick im talking about isnt part of this budget.

as for intel 3000, its definitely better than ATI 3000, this review shows it better than the radeon 5450 even, which is really impressive for intel. it still "cant" play metro but neither can the clarkdale intel hd that ive been playing metro on :) 
April 28, 2011 10:10:05 PM

The big difference between the Athlons and the Phenoms is that the Phenoms have the L3 cache which is can help give better FPS when gaming,the Athlons only have L2 and L1 cache.
I'd say just get a the 5770 or the 6770.the 6770 might be a little better for Metro because of the improved tesselation but Metro really rellies on a fast quad core than GPU power.
April 29, 2011 1:52:13 PM

^also most of Phenoms reach higher clocks than Athlons
@justgoosey, ATI 3000 is probably a bit faster than HD5450. It's more of 5550-5570 performance level :) 
April 29, 2011 1:54:23 PM

Thats actually really good for a Intergreted graphics.I used to own a 5570 and it did well for what it is.
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