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July 9, 2011 5:15:53 AM

Hi guys!

I'm new here, but since I'm new to Canada and out of the loop as far as computer components are concerned, I thought I'd turn to this forum. I've also checked the *How to Ask for New Build Advice* thread, so this is the information that will hopefully help you tell my needs and concerns.

Approximate Purchase Date: at latest end of July
Budget Range: Well, $1,500, but it's somewhat of a soft limit. I'm willing to go to about $1,850, which is with all components (including the monitor).
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Internet, music, programming/coding, a lot of multitasking (ie. keeping a lot of programs open at the same time), using programs used in science (Matlab, Mathematica, maybe more demanding stuff on the level of AutoCAD (or above, I can't say) etc.), watching videos/movies (I want to be able to watch the highest resolutions currently available without any problems, and for years to come), probably not gaming, but I can never tell whether I get the itch for it (so no gamer, but also no going with the cheapest video card). Also, I do everything on my computer, and spend my days in front of it when I'm not in the gym or school, so I'd like everything to run as smooth as it can.
Parts Not Required: I need everything except for the speakers and maybe the mouse. That includes the monitor and either a router or a network card that will let me get access to wireless networks.
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I honestly don't know where to look, since I'm new to Canada. Perhaps memoryexpress.com, newegg.ca, tigerdirect.ca or any other sites that will build a computer for you. I don't plan on doin that myself.
Country of Origin: Canada
Parts Preferences: As far as the monitor is concerned, I'd like to go with either Dell, LG or Samsung, and for the CPU, probably Intel (i7), unless someone presents a really strong case for AMD.
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No
Monitor Resolution: Highest possible, I think.
Additional comments: I live in a residence, ie. I have one room, so I would prefer a case that is somewhat quiet and a reasonably cool system. The latter is not a priority, but I don't want an oven.

Now my first question is whether to go with a pre-built or custom-built PC. I prefer the latter, but where I'm from, when you ordered all parts at a particular place, they'd built for you for free, whereas here I don't know if that's the case and how trustworhy that is.

I've looked at some pre-built configurations, such as the following:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX31699%28ME%29.aspx

Also, I've built two rigs at Dell.ca:

Quote:

Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
Intel® Core™i7-960 processor(8MB L2 Cache, 3.20GHz)
McAfee SecurityCenter, 15-Months
Microsoft® Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word & Excel w/ ads. No PowerPoint or Outlook
9GB Tri Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 6 DIMMs
1TB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
No Monitor
AMD Radeon™ HD 6770
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
No Dial Up Modem Option
Dell Consumer Multimedia Keyboard
Dell Laser Mouse
No Speaker Option
Dell 1525 Wireless-N PCIe Card
3 Year Premium Hardware Service
3 Year Accidental Damage Service
Studio XPS 9100


Quote:

Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
Intel® Core™ i7-2600 processor(8MB Cache, 3.4GHz)
McAfee SecurityCenter, 15-Months
Microsoft® Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word & Excel w/ ads. No PowerPoint or Outlook
12GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMs
1.5TB - SATA-II, 3Gb/s, 7,200 RPM, 32MB Cache HDD
AMD Radeon™ HD 6770
Blu-ray Combo Drive (8X BD-R, DVD+/-RW) with DVD+R double layer write capability
Dell USB Entry Keyboard
Dell Laser Mouse
No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system)
Add 2 USB 3.0 ports
3 Year Premium Hardware Service
3 Year Accidental Damage Service
No Dial Up Modem Option
THX® TruStudio PC™
ST2320L 23-inch Full HD Widescreen Monitor
XPS8300


The second one includes a monitor, but from online reviews, it's not really that good. I would like at least a 22" monitor, though, preferably 24".

So even if I don't go with one of those three options, I'd like something similar perhaps. Does it match my intended usage? Any other comments on, first of all, the three mentioned rigs, or should I go with a custom-built one? Note that with Dell's rigs, $250 for the 3 year hardware and accidental damage service is included, and I'm not sure whether to drop that or not, if I choose to go with it.

Alright, I'm already too long, so I'm wrapping it up. Thanks in advance for any help!
July 9, 2011 9:20:57 AM

FREE SHIPPING for this entire order.

2600 cpu, 8GB of RAM...add another set for a total of 16GB, dual band wireless adapter, etc...

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230911/VSK-2450/ANTEC... $81.40
Antec VSK-2450 Mid-Tower ATX Case Black 3X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT 450W Front USB & Sound

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234231/ASRock/H67M_GE... $116.60
ASRock H67M-GE B3 mATX LGA1155 DDR3 PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 SATA3 USB3.0 DVI HDMI Sandy Bridge Motherboard

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232640/BX80623I72600/... $293.10
Intel Core i7 2600 Quad Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Sandy Bridge 8MB

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232566/F3-10666CL9D-8... $56.49
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1333 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/231264/01G-P3-1432-LR... $79.74
EVGA GeForce GT 430 700MHZ 1GB 1.6GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E DVI VGA HDMI Video Card

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/235210/WD1502FAEX/Wes... $116.60
Western Digital WD1502FAEX Caviar Black 1.5TB SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache Internal Hard Drive OEM

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233514/BW-12B1LTBLKBA... $119.90
ASUS BW-12B1LT Internal 12X Blu Ray Disc Writer Lightscribe OEM W/ Powerdvd

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/216557/WUSB600N-CA/Li... $62.96
Linksys WUSB600N Dual Band Wireless N USB Network Adapter Canadian Version

Total: $926.79

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-00599/MICR... $93.79
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230633/E2000-CA/Links... $118.80
Linksys Expert E2000 Wireless 802.11B/G/N Router 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ Selectable Band

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/219916/1213%20/HAUPPA... $130.53
Hauppauge WinTV HVR-2250 Media Center Kit Dual TUNER/ ATSC HDTV / QAM Receiver /RADIO / TV / PCIe

http://www.bestdirect.ca/category/?minorcatid=1003 <----- Choose your monitor.
July 9, 2011 9:35:42 AM

How about this:

I5 2500 (non K as you indicated no overclocking, could go upto an i7 2600)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
Now i7 2600
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

ASUS P8H67-M LE ( i'm not sure if this board is any good but i'd have thought so as its an ASUS)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (Good RAM with low profile heat sinks as i think the massive ones look ridiculous)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Zotac GTX 570 (Destroy most games at 1080p and above)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
Now ASUS direct CU 460 1GB
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Crucial m4 64GB (Good SSD for core programs i.e. the operating system and the odd game)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (For storage)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

XFX 650W XXX PSU (not entirely sure if this would be enough, people make suggest larger ones, but your system consumption shouldn't go over 500W so should be fine)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Corsair 600T Graphite ( I get the feeling you want a more understated case and this is a fine choice IMO)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Logitech Keyboard and Mouse (looks like a good set, although a better mouse such as the mx518 might be better for gaming)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

LG DVD RW
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Don't know about a monitor tbh all the ones i'd suggest i can't find on tigerdirect

Final price is $1300

[Edit]

Wow, yeah i should really read the whole post and not just look at the number, so yeah changes:

i5 2500 to i7 2600
GTX 570 to GTX 460
added in a DVD burner because i'm an idiot and forgot.

With those change it comes to $1276

Also are you sure you don't want to build it yourself? It would be a great learning experience, and save you money.

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July 9, 2011 5:02:22 PM

metal orient said:
How about this:

I5 2500 (non K as you indicated no overclocking, could go upto an i7 2600)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
Now i7 2600
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

ASUS P8H67-M LE ( i'm not sure if this board is any good but i'd have thought so as its an ASUS)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (Good RAM with low profile heat sinks as i think the massive ones look ridiculous)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Zotac GTX 570 (Destroy most games at 1080p and above)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
Now ASUS direct CU 460 1GB
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Crucial m4 64GB (Good SSD for core programs i.e. the operating system and the odd game)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (For storage)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

XFX 650W XXX PSU (not entirely sure if this would be enough, people make suggest larger ones, but your system consumption shouldn't go over 500W so should be fine)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Corsair 600T Graphite ( I get the feeling you want a more understated case and this is a fine choice IMO)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Logitech Keyboard and Mouse (looks like a good set, although a better mouse such as the mx518 might be better for gaming)
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

LG DVD RW
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Don't know about a monitor tbh all the ones i'd suggest i can't find on tigerdirect

Final price is $1300

[Edit]

Wow, yeah i should really read the whole post and not just look at the number, so yeah changes:

i5 2500 to i7 2600
GTX 570 to GTX 460
added in a DVD burner because i'm an idiot and forgot.

With those change it comes to $1276

Also are you sure you don't want to build it yourself? It would be a great learning experience, and save you money.
Thanks for the suggestion, it looks really good! I'd probably go with a different hard drive (how about this Seagate ST31000524AS Barracuda Hard Drive - 1TB, SATA 6Gbps, 7200 RPM, 32MB?), since I just have a thing that I kind of don't want to go with anything but WD or Seagate.

The price seems good, though, although I'd probably need to add the operating system and the network card/router, as well. As for the latter, which is better? Are network cards just as good? Because I'd probably prefer that then, since I don't want to have too much stuff laying around in my one and only room. Any suggestions what to buy to gain access to wireless networks?

Also, to accomodate those costs, I was thinking maybe to forego going with the SSD drive. Or do you think the latter is too important? The monitor is less of a problem, because I can just order wherever, and will look up reviews and such. If you have suggestions, though, don't hesitate airing them. Oh, and as for the mouse, that one looks more than good enough! I could probably just go with the standard keyboard and a cheap mouse to save on those costs. I have a mouse I'm happy with at the moment, the only problem is the right click button is acting up, and so I kind of do need a new one.

Lastly, I hear you on build the computer myself being a great learning experience, but I just don't think I have the time for it at the moment, plus being a student, I don't have tools laying around (I only have a couple of screwdrivers). I can probably gain access to some additional tools, since I work in a lab, and would therefore probably be able to borrow them for the weekend. How much is the cost of having someone else do that for you, though? And how long does it take?
Why_Me said:
FREE SHIPPING for this entire order.

2600 cpu, 8GB of RAM...add another set for a total of 16GB, dual band wireless adapter, etc...

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230911/VSK-2450/ANTEC... $81.40
Antec VSK-2450 Mid-Tower ATX Case Black 3X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT 450W Front USB & Sound

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234231/ASRock/H67M_GE... $116.60
ASRock H67M-GE B3 mATX LGA1155 DDR3 PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 SATA3 USB3.0 DVI HDMI Sandy Bridge Motherboard

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232640/BX80623I72600/... $293.10
Intel Core i7 2600 Quad Core Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Sandy Bridge 8MB

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232566/F3-10666CL9D-8... $56.49
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1333 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/231264/01G-P3-1432-LR... $79.74
EVGA GeForce GT 430 700MHZ 1GB 1.6GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E DVI VGA HDMI Video Card

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/235210/WD1502FAEX/Wes... $116.60
Western Digital WD1502FAEX Caviar Black 1.5TB SATA3 7200RPM 64MB Cache Internal Hard Drive OEM

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233514/BW-12B1LTBLKBA... $119.90
ASUS BW-12B1LT Internal 12X Blu Ray Disc Writer Lightscribe OEM W/ Powerdvd

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/216557/WUSB600N-CA/Li... $62.96
Linksys WUSB600N Dual Band Wireless N USB Network Adapter Canadian Version

Total: $926.79

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-00599/MICR... $93.79
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230633/E2000-CA/Links... $118.80
Linksys Expert E2000 Wireless 802.11B/G/N Router 2.4GHZ or 5.0GHZ Selectable Band

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/219916/1213%20/HAUPPA... $130.53
Hauppauge WinTV HVR-2250 Media Center Kit Dual TUNER/ ATSC HDTV / QAM Receiver /RADIO / TV / PCIe

http://www.bestdirect.ca/category/?minorcatid=1003 <----- Choose your monitor.
This looks really good, as well! I'd probably want to go with a better graphics card, though, and I'm also a bit worried about the power supply being only 425W. Any comments on those two concerns? Also, how does that network adapter work? Do you just plug it in and - voila! - there's wireless networks available to you?

Here, too, I'd need to add the keyboard and the mouse, but other than that that looks a fair price. Although, with the changes that I suggested in the previous paragraph the cost would go up.

Anyways, thanks for the comments thus far!
July 9, 2011 5:47:12 PM

Ryker said:
Thanks for the suggestion, it looks really good! I'd probably go with a different hard drive (how about this Seagate ST31000524AS Barracuda Hard Drive - 1TB, SATA 6Gbps, 7200 RPM, 32MB?), since I just have a thing that I kind of don't want to go with anything but WD or Seagate.

The price seems good, though, although I'd probably need to add the operating system and the network card/router, as well. As for the latter, which is better? Are network cards just as good? Because I'd probably prefer that then, since I don't want to have too much stuff laying around in my one and only room. Any suggestions what to buy to gain access to wireless networks?

Also, to accomodate those costs, I was thinking maybe to forego going with the SSD drive. Or do you think the latter is too important? The monitor is less of a problem, because I can just order wherever, and will look up reviews and such. If you have suggestions, though, don't hesitate airing them. Oh, and as for the mouse, that one looks more than good enough! I could probably just go with the standard keyboard and a cheap mouse to save on those costs. I have a mouse I'm happy with at the moment, the only problem is the right click button is acting up, and so I kind of do need a new one.

Lastly, I hear you on build the computer myself being a great learning experience, but I just don't think I have the time for it at the moment, plus being a student, I don't have tools laying around (I only have a couple of screwdrivers). I can probably gain access to some additional tools, since I work in a lab, and would therefore probably be able to borrow them for the weekend. How much is the cost of having someone else do that for you, though? And how long does it take?
This looks really good, as well! I'd probably want to go with a better graphics card, though, and I'm also a bit worried about the power supply being only 425W. Any comments on those two concerns? Also, how does that network adapter work? Do you just plug it in and - voila! - there's wireless networks available to you?

Here, too, I'd need to add the keyboard and the mouse, but other than that that looks a fair price. Although, with the changes that I suggested in the previous paragraph the cost would go up.

Anyways, thanks for the comments thus far!

The network adapter is plug and play. It also makes a great match with that router...dual band ftw. I chose that mobo for the fact it's an H67 board, and also it has four RAM slots giving you the option to add another 8GB of RAM now, or later down the road. As far as the psu and vid card are concerned that's easy enough.

That psu down below is a single rail psu manufactured by Seasonic...it's as good as it gets imo.

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233770/P1550SXXB9/XFX... $61.26
XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/235159/ENGTX560%20DCI... $194.79
ASUS GeForce GTX 560 DirectCU II Fermi OC 850MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini HDMI PCI-E Video Card

http://www.bestdirect.ca/category/?minorcatid=104 <------ I would recommend Antec or Cooler Master case
July 9, 2011 7:06:03 PM

Why_Me said:
The network adapter is plug and play. It also makes a great match with that router...dual band ftw. I chose that mobo for the fact it's an H67 board, and also it has four RAM slots giving you the option to add another 8GB of RAM now, or later down the road. As far as the psu and vid card are concerned that's easy enough.

That psu down below is a single rail psu manufactured by Seasonic...it's as good as it gets imo.

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233770/P1550SXXB9/XFX... $61.26
XFX 550W PRO550W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 44A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/235159/ENGTX560%20DCI... $194.79
ASUS GeForce GTX 560 DirectCU II Fermi OC 850MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini HDMI PCI-E Video Card

http://www.bestdirect.ca/category/?minorcatid=104 <------ I would recommend Antec or Cooler Master case
Do I even need a network adapter if I buy a router? Also, do you feel the GTX560 gives a much better performance than the 460 version, or is that only for hardcore gamers? And last direct question, could you recommend an ASUS motherboard that gives the same performance as the ASRock you suggested? I think I just feel safer going with it, even if that does sound like a fluffy reason.

Anyway, I went to the memoryexpress.com website and actually built a system based upon both of you guys' recommendations (no SSD drive in that configuration, though, I might add it), so I was wondering whether you have any comments. Also, the monitor is tentative, and I may buy it elsewhere, depending upon the price. I added it just to get a number for the whole system. Lastly, some things are out of stock, so I might have to go with something different.

Cooler Master Gladiator 600 Mid Tower
Intel Core™ i7-2600 Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 8MB Cache
Asus ENGTX460 DirectCU GeForce GTX 460 1GB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1, OEM
Corsair CMPSU-600CX V2 600 Watt Power Supply
Asus P8H67-M EVO Rev 3.0 w/ Dual DDR3 1333, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E, Quad CrossFireX
LG Super-Multi 22x DVD Writer, SATA w/ Lightscribe, Black
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Blue7200rpm SATA III w/ 32MB Cache
Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 4GB)
LG IPS236V-PN 23in Widescreen LED LCD
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (64-bit) SP1 DVD - OEM
Logitech Deluxe 250 Desktop Keyboard and Mouse, Black (OEM)
LINKSYS Wireless-G Broadband Router for Linux

Price (including tax + shipping): $1,562.80 (+ $70.00 if they build it).

What do you think, and what, if anything, would you change based upon my needs?
July 9, 2011 7:13:45 PM

Ryker said:
Do I even need a network adapter if I buy a router? Also, do you feel the GTX560 gives a much better performance than the 460 version, or is that only for hardcore gamers? And last direct question, could you recommend an ASUS motherboard that gives the same performance as the ASRock you suggested? I think I just feel safer going with it, even if that does sound like a fluffy reason.

Anyway, I went to the memoryexpress.com website and actually built a system based upon both of you guys' recommendations (no SSD drive in that configuration, though, I might add it), so I was wondering whether you have any comments. Also, the monitor is tentative, and I may buy it elsewhere, depending upon the price. I added it just to get a number for the whole system. Lastly, some things are out of stock, so I might have to go with something different.

Cooler Master Gladiator 600 Mid Tower
Intel Core™ i7-2600 Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 8MB Cache
Asus ENGTX460 DirectCU GeForce GTX 460 1GB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1, OEM
Corsair CMPSU-600CX V2 600 Watt Power Supply
Asus P8H67-M EVO Rev 3.0 w/ Dual DDR3 1333, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394, PCI-E, Quad CrossFireX
LG Super-Multi 22x DVD Writer, SATA w/ Lightscribe, Black
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Blue7200rpm SATA III w/ 32MB Cache
Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit (2 x 4GB)
LG IPS236V-PN 23in Widescreen LED LCD
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (64-bit) SP1 DVD - OEM
Logitech Deluxe 250 Desktop Keyboard and Mouse, Black (OEM)
LINKSYS Wireless-G Broadband Router for Linux

Price (including tax + shipping): $1,562.80 (+ $70.00 if they build it).

What do you think, and what, if anything, would you change based upon my needs?

You only need a wireless adapter if you plan on using a wireless network. Seeing how you chose a G band router it's obvious you don't plan on going wireless. That build you have will work fine although that h/d is slow...blue edition.

As far as the vid card goes...here's a review benchmark down below.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-amp...
July 9, 2011 7:24:22 PM

Why_Me said:
You only need a wireless adapter if you plan on using a wireless network. Seeing how you chose a G band router it's obvious you don't plan on going wireless.
What do you mean by that? I would like to be able to get on wireless networks, but not actually have one set up. Would that router not do then? Back home I had the same router and was able to do all of that without a network adapter, so sorry if I'm a bit confused now.
Why_Me said:
That build you have will work fine although that h/d is slow...blue edition.
Would black be better? And how come it's slow, isn't the same, 7200 RPM?

I also messed up on the motherboard, because it doesn't seem to be compatible with 1600 MHz RAM. What do you think of this one - Asus P8P67-M Rev 3.0 w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394, Quad CrossFireX?
July 9, 2011 7:44:22 PM

Ryker said:
What do you mean by that? I would like to be able to get on wireless networks, but not actually have one set up. Would that router not do then? Back home I had the same router and was able to do all of that without a network adapter, so sorry if I'm a bit confused now.Would black be better? And how come it's slow, isn't the same, 7200 RPM?

I also messed up on the motherboard, because it doesn't seem to be compatible with 1600 MHz RAM. What do you think of this one - Asus P8P67-M Rev 3.0 w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, 1394, Quad CrossFireX?

That mobo is a nice one by the looks and specs. As far as wireless goes...you have to be able to connect to it. PC's need a wireless card or adapter in order to connect to wireless. Laptops have a wireless card already installed in them, but not PC's. As far as wireless goes.. "N" is the latest and fastest. G is older, less secure and slower. Take a look at that build I posted...it's all free shipping, and then look at the router and adapter. It's a dual band set up 5Ghz - 2.4ghz ...faster download, upload, etc...

You hook up the router, plug in the adapter and the adapter and the router connect together via wireless signal. Check out these two links down below...it shows a visual with better explanation.

http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-E2000-Advanced-Wire... <---router

http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-WUSB600N-Dual-Band-... <---- adapter
July 9, 2011 7:53:12 PM

Just get an iBuypower or Cyberpower if you don't have the time.

Also take into consideration the fact that you might get defective parts or might put it together wrong and the troubleshooting time that will take. If you don't know what you're doing don't spend $1300 on computer parts....
July 9, 2011 9:14:23 PM

Why_Me said:
That mobo is a nice one by the looks and specs. As far as wireless goes...you have to be able to connect to it. PC's need a wireless card or adapter in order to connect to wireless. Laptops have a wireless card already installed in them, but not PC's. As far as wireless goes.. "N" is the latest and fastest. G is older, less secure and slower. Take a look at that build I posted...it's all free shipping, and then look at the router and adapter. It's a dual band set up 5Ghz - 2.4ghz ...faster download, upload, etc...

You hook up the router, plug in the adapter and the adapter and the router connect together via wireless signal. Check out these two links down below...it shows a visual with better explanation.

http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-E2000-Advanced-Wire... <---router

http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-WUSB600N-Dual-Band-... <---- adapter
Oh OK, I see what you mean. I actually don't need to connect to the router itself without a wire, so I guess then I don't need the network adapter, right? That is, I would connect my computer to the router using a wire, but I would like to be able to connect to a wireless network using that router. I hear you on the G and N, thanks for pointing it out.
browsingtheworld said:
Just get an iBuypower or Cyberpower if you don't have the time.

Also take into consideration the fact that you might get defective parts or might put it together wrong and the troubleshooting time that will take. If you don't know what you're doing don't spend $1300 on computer parts....
Actually, memoryexpress does offer building of a PC for $40, and that plus installing the OS for $70. I think at this point I'd go for at least the cheaper option, but even though I have installed Windows before, maybe the more expensive option would have them actually test that all components are working fine (as otherwise the computer won't boot up right or they'll have trouble installing the OS).

So what do you think, is it sensible to go with the $70 option then? Like I said, I've installed Windows before, though admittedly not from scratch, but just doing reformarts/repartitionings when something was already installed. Is it any different when you just have a properly built PC? You just put the DVD in and install it, or is there more to it, such as having to do stuff in BIOS?

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