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October 6, 2011 1:23:38 AM

Hey everybody,

I would like to upgrade my graphics card and power supply, but I do not have much knowledge on computers. However, from the research I have done, I understand that upgrading to a better graphics card is not as simple as just buying one. It has to match the motherboard, and you have to have the correct power supply right?

I bought a prebuilt PC from Best Buy a few years ago and it is a HPE-210y and I found the specs from another forum and it was the exact model and product number that I have.

My current power supply is only 300W from the stock power that came with the computer and my graphics card is ATI Radeon HD 5450 with dedicated graphics memory of 512MB. I downloaded the Battlefield 3 beta and unless I have the settings at very low and my resolution at 800x600, I cannot play the game without lag.

My questions are: What graphics cards can I buy that match my motherboard and is there an easy way for me to know this? My price range would be upwards of $300-$400 so if you have any suggestions I would appreciate it. Also, what power supply should I buy to be able to handle the graphics card around the $100-$150 range? Are there any power supplies that do not fit into the prebuilt case that came with my computer?

I feel like besides the graphics card and the power supply, my computer has a lot of other solid components for now, correct?

I appreciate all the help I can get!


System
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Manufacturer HP-Pavilion
Model BK170AA-ABA HPE-210y
Total amount of system memory 8.00 GB RAM
System type 64-bit operating system
Number of processor cores 4

Storage
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Total size of hard disk(s) 931 GB
Disk partition (C:)  (920 GB Total)
Disk partition (D:)  (12 GB Total)
Media drive (E:)  CD/DVD

Graphics
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Display adapter type ATI Radeon HD 5450
Total available graphics memory 3571 MB
Dedicated graphics memory 512 MB
Dedicated system memory 0 MB
Shared system memory 3059 MB
Display adapter driver version 8.773.0.0
Primary monitor resolution 1920x1080
DirectX version DirectX 10

Processor
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Model: AMD Phenom II X4 945 (HDX945FBGIBOX)
Speed: 3.0 GHZ
Socket: AM3/AM2+
Bus speed: 3600 MHz HT3

Motherboard
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H-RS880-uATX (Aloe)
Manufacturer: Foxconn
Form factor: uATX
Chipset: AMD 785G
Memory sockets: 4 x DDR3
Front side bus speeds: 5200 MT/s
Processor socket: AM3
Expansion Slots:

1 PCI x16 slot for graphics card
3 PCI x1 slots
1 PCI Express x1 minicard slot

Computer
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HPE-210y
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October 6, 2011 1:35:05 AM

you can handle most modern mid range video cards with a solid 500-600w PSU.

right now you can get the corsair TX650 v2 for $60 after MIR and promo code on newegg. team that up with an AMD 6870, 6950, Nvidia GTX 560, 560ti.
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October 6, 2011 4:04:04 AM

dirtyferret said:
you can handle most modern mid range video cards with a solid 500-600w PSU.

right now you can get the corsair TX650 v2 for $60 after MIR and promo code on newegg. team that up with an AMD 6870, 6950, Nvidia GTX 560, 560ti.



So, if I were to get a larger PSU, I would be able to by a bigger video card? Anybody have personal examples of their video card and PSU that they recommend? Thanks for the help dirtyferret.
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October 6, 2011 4:18:47 AM

you have a mini tower case so space is lacking. most mid-level cards take up two PCI-E slots and need 9-9.5" of length space. more powerful cards need more space. this corsair can run any single video card out there today.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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October 6, 2011 4:48:18 PM

Thanks again!

If you go to this link this is where I found the specs of my computer and in the pictures, the other forum poster shows that there is 10 inches of space. Also, when reseaching video cards, what do I look for to know if it takes up one or 2 PCI-E slots? Can you link me to mid-high end video cards that would work?

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=339358
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October 6, 2011 6:20:12 PM

Hey ferret, I talked with AMD support, and they agree with you that it seems that I will need to have a mid range card, simply just because of the size of the tower and the room I have. Any large cards I would need to have a larger tower.
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October 6, 2011 6:28:15 PM

here are the specs for BF3 at 1050p (they don't have 1080p but close enough)



at 41-42FPS, you have the Nvidia GTX560 (non ti) @ 9" and AMD 6870 @ 9 1/2 -9 7/8". Both cards run cool for a video card but the AMD will consume less power and generate less heat.

AMD 6870 $170 out the door and $150after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GTX560 $190 out the door and $170 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$197 out the door and $182 after MIR but comes with a Batman game
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

above 43FPS you have the following cards
GTX560ti will fit at 9.5" but runs hotter then the non-ti and shows little improvement in BF3 for the price. In other games it should display 10% improvement over the non-ti, which is nothing in real world gaming.
$228 out the door and $208 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$233 out the door and $203 after MIR but comes with the Batman game (and is only 8 1/4")
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ATI 5870 , AMD 6950 & 6970 (all at around 11") Nvidia 480, 570 , 580 all exceed 10" ( at 10.5") and all create a lot of heat for a HP case.

the Nvidia GTX 470 reference card (if you can find one) is listed at 9.5" but is notorious for creating heat. I would assume any non-reference cards would be longer.

so if you want the best bang for your buck without giving up a lot of performance, get the AMD 6870. If you want to squeeze all you can out a card that will fit in 10" then get the Nvidia GTX560ti.
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October 7, 2011 1:00:34 AM

you are the man ferret! thank you very much for the research!
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October 7, 2011 1:04:02 AM

Best answer selected by azdevil2004.
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