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July 9, 2011 10:02:39 AM

Hi, I am trying to build a PC in a few months or maybe closer to the end of the year, but I don't know very much at all with current name brands, and what's up to par with what when it comes to models. I am trying to build a gaming PC ideally for up coming Starcaft 2 expansions, Diablo 3, world of warcraft, and/or possibly current popular first person shooter(call of duty most likely). Also I'm trying to spend under 1000. I keep hearing good things about cyberpower, is building a computer through there site cheaper or is it better now a days to get some stock computer or rectified pc from newegg? Any suggestions? Trying to learn as much as possible as to what parts and discounts to be looking for.

This is what I made on the cyberpower cite.
I don't really know what I am looking at, but any suggestions on what to downgrade on this pc, and what to upgrade to meet par with other part?
This one ended up at about $1200, I'm really looking for something in the 800-1000 range.
I just kinda made this by what others had suggested.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DC23W

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July 9, 2011 12:26:56 PM

^^+1 you can save some money, you pick the parts, and to be able to say hey i built that. It's all worth it, and we are here if you have any help or questions.
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July 10, 2011 8:41:56 AM

Thanks, those should help. Most likely i'll be posting soon for some tricks of the trade : P
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July 10, 2011 2:27:24 PM

We are all eyes! :) 
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July 11, 2011 9:26:58 AM

Ok, so i got a look at those 2 articles and this is what i put together now.

Case: HAF 932($139.98)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: Intel i5($219.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU Fan: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212($49.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 DELUXE($224.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Video Card: GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit($249.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: XIGMATEK NRP-PC702 700W($74.95)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive: SAMSUNG Spinpoint($54.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB($64.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Optical: ASUS 24X DVD Burner($20.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL: $1101

Pretty close to the PC in the article. Couple questions though; Do I need a CPU fan? The HAF case there comes with 1 x 140mm rear fan, 1 x 230mm front red LED fan, 1 x 230mm top fan, and 1 x 230mm side fan. Would those suffice? I also was looking at a MSI mother board what was a little cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Anyone know anything about this mother board? Would it work with the setup above? I guess, finally does anyone have any suggestions on this setup? Any flaws with combinations? Or any tested products I could go with that are of par with these, but could save a couple bucks?

Please let me know what you think. This was my first whack at this. Thanks :) 
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July 11, 2011 9:52:14 AM

Also are Thermal Displays worth it? Good company or price on one?
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July 11, 2011 12:51:45 PM

Here's my recommendation based on i5-2500K, 560Ti and an SSD:

Motherboard & SSD : $222-Gigabyte Ga Z68X UD3 & Crucial M4 64 GB (SLI/Crossfire capable motherboard)

Power Supply & RAM : $145-Corsair Enthusiast TX650 & Corsair Vengeance 2X 4GB(insufficient power supply if a second video card is added)

Graphic Card & CPU: $455- i5-2500K & MSI Twin Frozr II 560Ti

HDD :$55- Samsung Spinpoint 1TB

Case : $90- Cooler Master Storm Scout

Optical Drive: $19- LiteOn

Total (Excluding Rebate) : 986 USD

Rebates: 45 USD






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July 13, 2011 6:52:09 AM

if i did want a second video card what psu would you suggest? And I'm also assuming when you are building you're build a pc from scratch you're gonna need a windows install disc or do motherboards or something come with one? windows 7 ultimate would be what i want?
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July 13, 2011 9:24:15 AM

alltheicons said:
if i did want a second video card what psu would you suggest? And I'm also assuming when you are building you're build a pc from scratch you're gonna need a windows install disc or do motherboards or something come with one? windows 7 ultimate would be what i want?


You are going to buy an OS, as motherboards don't come with one
For OS : $100-Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64 bit)

You won't be needing Windows Ultimate as it contains features that are used by IT pros,etc.

For two 560Ti in SLI, minimum would be 750 watts like ( Antec EarthWatts 750 worth $90) but 850 watts will be much safer option ( XFX Core Editon 850 worth $120)

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July 13, 2011 12:35:24 PM

I suggest the 6950 2GBs for CF over 560Tis in SLI.

single card story would be slightly different. But my personal choice would still be the 6950 2GB.

Dont pay 250$ for a 560 2GB. That 'd be lame as 560ti or 6950 should be the way u should go.
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July 14, 2011 6:52:06 AM

Why radeon? Honestly the only reason i chose nvidia is because its all i've ever had and they've never turned me down, plus i keep seeing higher fps on nvidia models compared to radeon. I want the computer to work well with 1 video card, i just wanna be able to upgrade if needed with out having to scrap a psu or something with a minor price difference.
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July 15, 2011 2:02:22 AM

The one thats higher is Overclocked higher.
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July 15, 2011 3:23:10 AM

What do you mean? Like it can be overclocked higher or its already overclocked? so which one is it i want then?
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July 18, 2011 2:29:48 AM

The one is already Overclocked higher, so thats the one you would want.
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July 22, 2011 1:33:32 PM

why do you suggest the asrock? all i see is + $50
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July 22, 2011 8:32:00 PM

I would definitely suggest the GeForce 560...I think you get the most bang for your buck. If you were looking to invest over $500 in a GPU then I would say go with the Radeon 4gb 6990 as opposed to the GTX590 (3gb), many tests have shown Radeon outperforming...don't know if you plan to use 2 video cards but if you do then I would suggest the 6950 as well.

Pertaining to your CPU i5 2500K is the best option for the money you're spending and the reason you're building the computer (mainly gaming, right?). 2nd generations tend to be 45% faster and more efficient. If you want to future proof then I'd go with a six core (i7 980 and above) but again, it's a lot of money. If you see the "K" after the name this means it's a lot easier to overclock than ones without it (unless you're paying someone to overclock it for you).

These 2 components seem to be the most important so they're what I commented on. If you need any more help let me know :) 
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