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July 11, 2011 12:29:02 AM

Hey everyone at Tom's. So I'm building a comp for the first time in 5 years, first time I'll be assembling totally on my own as well. After an assload of research and someone enlightening me to sandy bridge I think I'm almost set on my build.. Sort of.. This comp will be used mainly for games, don't play them 24/7 as I used to but when I do play I want the visuals to melt my mind, which means maxed settings. I'm also likly to do alot of map editing in SC2 if the editor is good (heard mixed things).

Basically it has come down to: to SLi or not to SLi.. Looking like a pair of 560 Ti vs the all powerful 590 GTX.

So heres the template (Yeah I read the Sticky :o  )

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Approximate Purchase Date: Tomorrow, or a few days later..

Budget Range: Hoping to keep it near 1500 but I could go up.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming at high settings is the primary focus. Will do MS office, web surfing and maybe modeling but that is all secondary.

Parts Not Required: I need new everything, except a speaker system, and I think I can get a copy of Win7.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No preference. (Plz read additional comment though)

Country of Origin: Canada

Parts Preferences: Nvida Graphics card, beyond that I'm open.

Overclocking: Never tried it but it would be a shame to waste the unlocked i5 from what I've read, so it will be happening at some point.

SLI or Crossfire: Not sure, which is the root of my problem.

Monitor Resolution: 1080x1920

Additional Comments:

Case: I want a good looking case, yeah I'll pay a bit extra for it. Really want a red/black scheme this time, with red LED's mainly, no silver. Obviously cooling is important too though.

Old Comp: My old comp sporting its A64 dual core and 7800 GT died, seems iTunes killed the gcard somehow. I don't plan to reuse any of its components. Wondering if I could sell the parts to subsidize my new comp (1G DDR ram, 550 PSU, MSI K8N MOBO, NZXT Nemesis Case, 17" samgsung monitor) Thinking I could get maybe 250 for parts?

Ordering: Canadadirect seems to have the best prices and big plus there is free shipping, but they on the other side of the country from me, worried about ship time. Plus I have never ordered online, are all the Canadian sites safe to order from or what?

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The Decided Parts: I'm pretty much set on these parts and they will be the same for both builds. (prices include shipping if appliciable)

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD1527&v...
220.25

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-24 1.5V Memory Kit
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD7669&v...
77.46

Harddrive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=25350DR0783&v...
84.69

Case+Power Supply Combo: Thermaltake Element G VL18501W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Gaming Case w/ 850W Modular Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
205.48

Just saw that case PSU combo now, pretty handy as I kind of had a PSU problem as most beyond 700W cost like 100+, this comes with an 850W modular and is the case I was eyeing anyway.

Total so far: 587.88
Not set on the next stuff but the end items will be similar

CPU cooling: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA1155 LGA1156 120MM
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC8843&v...
21.56

Monitor: LG E2350V-SN 23" Widescreen LED Backlit Monitor - 1080p, 1920 x 1080, 16:9, 5000000:1 Dynamic, 5ms, VGA, DVI, HDMI
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...
About 210.00 After Shipping

Mouse and Keyboard: Havn't found ones I like yet, looking for red LED, and not a Razor mouse. Had two of their high end diamondbacks and on both the cable died and almost came right off in under a year. Razor blows unless they have pulled their *** together.
Setting aside 100 for mouse and keyboard.

Total = 919.44

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Whats left I think: Graphics card, Motherboard.

So yeah heres the lynchpin, the GPU situtaion. I can either go 590 GTX or 560 GTX Ti x2 in SLi.. I'm by no means set on the MOBO or exact GPU, honestly I have no idea which MOBO to pick, besides PCI-E x16 slots. The 590 GTX listed is one of the only 590s I could find for Canada, and is the best price I found.

Onboard audio on MOBO kind of a consideration as I wasn't planning a sound card, but I could get one if needed for sure.

=====Single 590 GTX Option=====

GPU: EVGA GTX 590 CLASSIFIED Limited Edition 3GB 768-bit GDDR5 PCI express 2.0 x16, 3xDual-Link DVI, DisplayPort, HDCP Ready, QUAD SLI Ready, PhysX, 3D Vision Surround Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
770.08

MoBo: MSI P67A-C43 (B3) P67 ATX LGA1155 DDR3 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E 3PCI SATA3 USB3.0 Audio GBLAN Motherboard
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD9423&v...(B3)&manufacture=MSI
99.69

Option = 869.77
Total = 1789.21...x1.15 = 2057.59

=====Double 560 GTX Ti Option=====

GPU x2: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II OC 880MHZ 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI DX11 PCI-E Video Card
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD8066&v...
241.33 X 2 = 482.66 - (2 x 20.00 MIR) = 442.66

MoBo: MSI Z68A-GD65-B3 Z68 ATX LGA1155 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI DVI HDMI VGA USB3 SLI SATA3 Motherboard
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD7057&v...
185.99

Option = 668.65 - 40.00 MIR= 628.65
Total = 1588.09...x1.15= 1826.30 After Tax

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So before tax the GTX 590 is over budget.. After tax they are both pretty far over, ******* worthless government running this province. :pfff: 

What I'm really hoping for is feedback on these builds, anwsers to some of the random questions this post is riddled with, and most importantly, is two 560 Ti SLi or one 590 GTX the better option.. As well of course is all this stuff compatiable? Price reduction options would be nice too.. lol..

Thanks in advance, and quick responses would be helpful as I've put this off for long enough and want to order the parts tomorrow. I'll prob be around all night tonight to respond and adjust the build :)  .

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July 11, 2011 12:36:49 AM

I've never ordered an item that is almost always 'Out of Stock' - I am referring to the 590, of course. I don't know how soon you would get it, but I would assume that you would want to put this together soon. For ease of ordering, I would just recommend getting the 560's and SLi them.

Also, if you're just going to be sticking with Starcraft 2, getting a 590 is total overkill. :)  I am currently using a 460 768MB card and I'm running Starcraft 2 on max graphics at 1080p with no problems at all. This is just to give you a scope of how much is needed to run Starcraft 2 on max.
July 11, 2011 3:16:01 AM

Thanks man but SC2 is not all I'll be running. See I havn't been able to play anything released in like the last year on my comp so I've lost track of the new titles lmao. I'll prob be playing the newest shooters of today and I'm hoping of a good many tomorrows too. So I figure its going to need to annihilate the games out now if it will stand strong for a few years.
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July 11, 2011 4:56:04 AM

sli 560ti would be great
July 11, 2011 5:34:12 AM

FREE SHIPPING for this entire order. These two companies are affiliated...they both have the same contact addy and shipping addy in Richmond, BC. Click those two links down below and you will see what I mean.

http://www.bestdirect.ca/contact/

http://www.directcanada.com/contact/

Dual factory o/c gtx 560's in SLI, gaming monitor, etc....

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234784/SGC-1000-KWN1/... $82.50
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer Mid Tower ATX Case Black 4X5.25EXT 6X3.5INT Front Audio USB *No PS

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/228326/R4-LUS-07AR-GP... $11.00
Coolermaster Megaflow 200MM Red LED Case Fan 700RPM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC6621&v... $95.99
XFX 750W PRO750W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/235032/GA-Z68X-UD3H-B... $159.79
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 ATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI HDMI SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/BX80623I52500K... $208.79
Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR-B10-212P-G1... $20.63
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/221145/F3-12800CL9D-8... $66.84
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL Ripjaws 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 240PIN DIMM Memory

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233111/ST31000524AS/S... $53.74
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB SATA 32MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive OEM

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/225965/DRW-24B1ST%20B... $17.79
ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD8066&v... $241.33 MIR. Savings: $20.00 - $221.33
MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II OC 880MHZ 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI DX11 PCI-E Video Card

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD8066&v... $241.33 MIR. Savings: $20.00 - $221.33
MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II OC 880MHZ 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI DX11 PCI-E Video Card

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230547/ML238H/ASUS/ $187.00 After Mail In Rebate: $172.00
ASUS ML238H 23IN Widescreen LED LCD Monitor 1920X1080 2MS 10000000:1DC VGA HDMI

Total: $1,386.73 *not including mail in rebates

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-00599/MICR... $93.79
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/224250/920-002232/Log... $68.26
Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard USB Programmable Backlit Keys USB Audio

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12660ID2220&v... $59.43
Logitech G500 Laser Gaming Mouse 5700DPI Weight Adjustable USB BLACK/GREY

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC0891&v... $59.69
Corsair Gaming Audio Series CA-HS1A Headset 50MM Drivers Circumaural Earcups

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id... <----- CM Storm Enforcer w/pics, specs, and professional reviews

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/27/ms... <------ MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC Review / Benchmarks
July 11, 2011 7:50:55 AM

Damn man are you a wizard or what; price drop of like 200 and swapped for the other case I was looking at but didn't mention..

So your saying the two 560s are the more powerful?

Why the Cas 9 RAM over the Cas 8?

Just found someone else is going to throw a few dollars at this to help me, so I was thinking about adding an SSD drive as a cache and uping the drive to 2 TB. Or is there a better use for a few hundred extra? Better GPU's maybe..? Better mobo that offers 16/16? Better monitor?
July 11, 2011 10:28:26 AM

Drunkenseagull said:
Damn man are you a wizard or what; price drop of like 200 and swapped for the other case I was looking at but didn't mention..

So your saying the two 560s are the more powerful?

Why the Cas 9 RAM over the Cas 8?

Just found someone else is going to throw a few dollars at this to help me, so I was thinking about adding an SSD drive as a cache and uping the drive to 2 TB. Or is there a better use for a few hundred extra? Better GPU's maybe..? Better mobo that offers 16/16? Better monitor?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-gaming-3-way-sl... <------ NF 200 boards (x16 & x16) are only useful for peeps planning on running more than two vid cards. Otherwise they are a waste of money as the benchmarks show on that link.

dual 560's > single 580
Not to mention that the 560's are on Nvidia's newest and latest chip set an die. They o/c better than any card out on the market atm, and they run cool.

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232923/F3-14900CL9D-8... $84.18
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1866 CL9-10-9-28 Memory

If I had a few extra dollars I might look into this monitor down below. It has a refresh rate of 120mhz and it's a pure gaming monitor.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10690MN9432&v... $339.69
BenQ XL2410T 23.6IN Widescreen 120HZ LCD Monitor LED 1920X1080 2MS DVI HDMI HAS Pivot 3D Vision

http://www.benq.us/products/product_detail.cfm?product=... <----- BenQ XL2410T

http://apcmag.com/first-look-the-benq-xl2410t-.htm <----- Review of that monitor

http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/BenQ_XL2410T_Moni... <----- Review of that monitor

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/monitors-and-pr... <----- Review of that monitor
July 11, 2011 11:44:07 AM

Get a single GTX 580. By the time you can't max game settings on it, you'll be able to buy it cheap as an SLI option. The card is dynamite and SLI GTX 580 is more powerful than an 590 anyways. If you want overkill and a budget, get the 580 now, and wait till you can afford it, or until it slows down in a year or so...then SLI it. Plus it saves you over $200 dollars on your build.

Only game(s) I can't choose max setting on a single GTX580 are Metro2033 and Witcher2 (needs ubersample off). Every other game: WoW, Tropico 3, Fallout 3 GOTY, Test Drive Unlimited 2, Crysis 2, Assassin's Creed 2, Far Cry 2, SC2...all running without a problem on my single EVGA GTX 580.
July 11, 2011 6:34:33 PM

Quote:
dual 560's > single 580


I was looking at the 590 GTX, not the the 580. I know from bench marks 560 Sli beats 580, but the 590 seems to hold its own against the pair of 560s...

I do like the idea of 580 now and uping later but..

A. I find when it comes time to up theres better stuff out and it seems like I'm putting money into a computer I'm going to turf in a few years anyway.

B. The cooling of the "Coolermaster Storm Enforcer Mid Tower ATX Case" worries me. It has no side fan meaning do direct air going to my GPU's and the fans it does have are smaller than some other cases.

The 560 Ti's I picked out have great coolers built right into them, I'd need to find a 580 GTX with the same..
July 11, 2011 7:08:25 PM

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 580 Fermi Windforce 795MHZ 1536MB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233096/GV-N580UD-15I/...

580 GTX with what looks like awesome cooling, it costs roughly the same as two 560 Tis, but is more if anything.

According to the charts I've read there really isn't much of a difference between the 580 and the 560, not nearly enough to justify a double in price. The 590 on the other hand is in a tottaly different category, 175% the performance of the 580..
July 11, 2011 8:21:09 PM

Drunkenseagull said:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 580 Fermi Windforce 795MHZ 1536MB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233096/GV-N580UD-15I/...

580 GTX with what looks like awesome cooling, it costs roughly the same as two 560 Tis, but is more if anything.

According to the charts I've read there really isn't much of a difference between the 580 and the 560, not nearly enough to justify a double in price. The 590 on the other hand is in a tottaly different category, 175% the performance of the 580..

There's two sides to the SLI debate...well three actually. I'm like this. A $100 or less 750w psu runs dual 560's that cost around $450. A single 580 cost $500+ not to mention you don't want anything less than a solid 900w psu to push two of those cards in SLI.

When it come to over clocking...the 560's like that MSI card can be easily pushed to run on par with a stock 570 yet less heat, and uses less power. If a peep doesn't add a card within the next few months there's a good chance he never will. Something always comes along that's new, cool, and is a "must have" in the world of vid cards. Latest technology , etc... So I like to do dual vid cards right off the get go if it's in the budget. A pair of 560's along with that 2500K is going to last quite awhile and when it's time to move on...ebay them, craiglist, give em away...whatever and move on to whatever's new and cool atm.

July 11, 2011 9:04:47 PM

i feel sorry for you that you cannot get newegg D:
July 11, 2011 9:10:22 PM

j3d1 said:
i feel sorry for you that you cannot get newegg D:



Newegg is more expensive, and yes they do have newegg canada.
July 11, 2011 9:13:57 PM

why so mad? you said urself he can put together a cheaper system on newegg?

i dont really care if hes canadian or not. i just know how good of a company/retailer newegg is and it is awfully sad that he cant take advantage of it.

i would not troll on these forums lol

u need to chill out though. couldnt care less if canadian dollar is beating the american dollar tbh.but thats a whole different discussion that i dont feel like having on this mans thread.


the comment has to do with the fact i cant help him out by refrencing newegg since it is no good for him that is all
July 11, 2011 9:18:36 PM

j3d1 said:
why so mad? you said urself he can put together a cheaper system on newegg?

i dont really care if hes canadian or not. i just know how good of a company/retailer newegg is and it is awfully sad that he cant take advantage of it.

i would not troll on these forums lol

u need to chill out though. couldnt care less if canadian dollar is beating the american dollar tbh.but thats a whole different discussion that i dont feel like having on this mans thread.


the comment has to do with the fact i cant help him out by refrencing newegg since it is no good for him that is all

sry about that...I was posting on three different threads and two diff. boards just now. :D 

On the newegg thing...they hose Canadians when it comes to shipping. Newegg is a great retailer as are a few others that come to mind. Superbiiz, Direct Canada, etc...all good.
July 11, 2011 9:47:32 PM

Yeah, newegg has some good parts, but most of the prices are high compaired to other sites. Plus the two Why_me listed gives free shipping, which is a good 150 savings in itself.

Alright, so I need to order this *** soon, like I'm making the final decisions at this moment and about to order.

Two snags right now.. The case and the exact GPUS..

1. Is that case gonna have the cooling I need, it has no side fan?

2. Checking the charts on toms, http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics...

It lists a 560 GTX twin frozr II then a 560 GTX ti Hawk Frozr III, and the difference between them is pretty massive.. its like a 19% increase, 5 frames more, from 27 to 32.

The hell is this Ti hawk thing all about.. The card we listed says its Ti but not hawk.. and is only frozr II? Is it the same card, with just a different cooling system (I've been assuming the frozr is the cooling thing) and the hawk version is just clocked higher at the factory or what?

Because if they are two different cards, the difference between them is huge and worth the extra 100 or so bucks.
July 11, 2011 9:51:16 PM

Drunkenseagull said:
Yeah, newegg has some good parts, but most of the prices are high compaired to other sites. Plus the two Why_me listed gives free shipping, which is a good 150 savings in itself.

Alright, so I need to order this *** soon, like I'm making the final decisions at this moment and about to order.

Two snags right now.. The case and the exact GPUS..

1. Is that case gonna have the cooling I need, it has no side fan?

2. Checking the charts on toms, http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics...

It lists a 560 GTX twin frozr II then a 560 GTX ti Hawk Frozr III, and the difference between them is pretty massive.. its like a 19% increase, 5 frames more, from 27 to 32.

The hell is this Ti hawk thing all about.. The card we listed says its Ti but not hawk.. and is only frozr II? Is it the same card, with just a different cooling system (I've been assuming the frozr is the cooling thing) and the hawk version is just clocked higher at the factory or what?

Because if they are two different cards, the difference between them is huge and worth the extra 100 or so bucks.

Read that review I posted in that build. You dl MSI Afterburner and turn up those cards and you just saved yourself ...how much $$? But don't crank them up right off the get go for the fact you have no need to crank them up yet seeing how two of those cards eat up any game out there atm. If anything you might have to down clock them at first.
July 11, 2011 10:06:28 PM

Yeah I did read that review, thats how I know the MSI 560 Ti is sick, I'm just wondering is that hawk one the same thing, just overclocked more out of the factory with a different cooler slapped on it?

And I realized I've made a mistake, I've been compairing factory overclocked 560 Ti cards to stock clock 570s, lol. Does that Ti bit on the end change the actual arcitechture of the card, or just mean its stock overclocked?

Because I could use that extra money to bump up to 570's and overclock them when needed if they have more potential.
July 11, 2011 11:11:21 PM

I'm pretty much on the order button right now, really need to figure out this case and GPU thing, can someone solve this real quick:

A) 2X 560 GTX Ti Sli or 2X 570 GTX in Sli. Price isnt a huge factor for it, I'm more concerned about eventual overclocking and the power of the cards. I know the 560 Tis are awesome, but the 570s seem to have more cores and whatever and seem I could overclock them better in the future, seeing as most Tis are Oc'ed from the factory.

B) Case problem!

This one has clear siding which looks cool but has no side fan, which seems really important for GPU cooling if I'm going to OC..
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id...

This one has a side fan but no Sata 3.0 front slots and no clear side, also has 2 smaller fans for GPU exhaust.
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1407&ID=18...

Basically I don't want to toast my cards, would the coolermaster provide enough cooling, because it doesn't seem so?
July 11, 2011 11:53:49 PM

Yeah I looked at that one too, stupid colorfans hypnotizing me and I want to element G but I know its just a novelty lol..

More importantly, 560 GTX Ti vs 570 GTX? Ti better pysically or is that just something they tack on when they factory OC it?
July 12, 2011 12:19:28 AM

Drunkenseagull said:
Yeah I looked at that one too, stupid colorfans hypnotizing me and I want to element G but I know its just a novelty lol..

More importantly, 560 GTX Ti vs 570 GTX? Ti better pysically or is that just something they tack on when they factory OC it?

The "ti" version of the 560 have more cores than the non "ti's".

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-amp... <---like this

If yo go the 570 route, make sure to get a 850w psu. Look at the XFX ones on direct canada.
July 12, 2011 1:17:58 AM

Pretty much decided on the element G, it comes with a 850W modular PSU and the combo is only 205.00 after shipping. Would be 300 If I went with HAF and a PSU. Plus a full tower is bigger than I wanted, I just want a mid.

Looking like It would be 300 more to upgrade to 570s, MSI ones with the frozr cooler on them.. There might be better 570s to be had.

MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570 Fermi 732MHZ 1280MB 3.8GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI Video Card
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD1893&v...

Anyway, I have other things I need to do atm and don't want to rush the ordering process so I'm gonna put ordering off till tomorrow. I need to think about the 560 Tis vs the 570s a little more anyway.. Im just thinking with that monitors 120MHZ refresh the extra frames would actually help, especially if 3D gets cool down the road and I want to try that, high frame rate will be a necessity.
July 13, 2011 6:23:24 PM

Well I ended up staying at the cottage way later than planned and didn't get to order last night, planning to order on my split from work in 3 hours. Decided on the 570s, for 200 bucks more they provide considerably better performance at only a little above stock speed as opposed to the OCed 560s, which means alot better OC potential down the road If I need.

90% Sure I'm going to the element G.. The Haf 932 is bigger than I want, plus the the G has two optional 60mm exhaust fans on the back specially for the GPUS, which is even more important if I get the frozrs as the reviews say the coolers blow the air down into the case not up towards the exhaust. Damn thing just doesn't have a clear side..

So heres the final build, let me know if you see any incompatible parts, possible better choices, price drops or anything.

Tower

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB
208.79$
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/BX80623I52500K...

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 ATX LGA1155 Z68 DDR3 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI HDMI SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard
159.79$
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/235032/GA-Z68X-UD3H-B...

Video Card 1: MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570 Fermi 732MHZ 1280MB 3.8GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI Video Card
339.92$ - 20.00 MIR
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD1893&v... Twin Frozr II/OC&manufacture=MSI

Video Card 2: MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570 Fermi 732MHZ 1280MB 3.8GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI Video Card
339.92$ - 20.00 MIR
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD1893&v... Twin Frozr II/OC&manufacture=MSI

Harddrive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
84.69
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=25350DR0783&v... Digital WD

Case and PSU Combo: Thermaltake Element G VL18501W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Gaming Case w/ 850W Modular Power Supply
201.99 (includes shipping)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CPU Cooling: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA1155 LGA1156 120MM
22.99
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR-B10-212P-G1...

Tower Total = 1358.09 X 1.15 = 1561.80 After tax - 40.00 MIR = 1521.80$ Cad

Accessories

Monitor: BenQ XL2410T 23.6IN Widescreen 120HZ LCD Monitor LED 1920X1080 2MS DVI HDMI HAS Pivot 3D Vision
354.78
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10690MN9432&v...

Mouse: Logitech G500 US Laser Gaming Mouse 5700DPI Weight Adjustable USB BLACK/GREY
65.55
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/235366/910-001259/Log...

Keyboard: Logitech G110 Gaming Keyboard USB Programmable Backlit Keys USB Audio
68.29
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/224250/920-002232/Log...

448.62 X 1.15 = 515.93 Ater Tax

Tower + Accessories = 2077.73 After tax - 40.00 MIR = 2037.73 After Tax

Only other consideration is I found this: MSI GeForce GTX 570 OC Fermi 786MHZ 1280MB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E DirectX 11 Video Card
284.93$
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD7021&v...

I'd save 80$ by going with these over the MSI, but the MSI frozr cooling has great reviews, plus that other one is out of stock..

Oh and I'll need 2 60mm case fans for the back GPU cooling. Should only be like 20 bucks for both, any good suggestions? the rpms on them go from like 750 to 6000 on one of them, dont want loud but want good cooling..

So there it is, any last words!?!?? Need to order soon!
Thanks!
July 13, 2011 9:04:02 PM

Case and PSU Combo: Thermaltake Element G VL18501W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Gaming Case w/ 850W Modular Power Supply
201.99 (includes shipping)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6811133175


this get a seperate good psu heres a refrence for quality

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

and get a different case imo it only comes with 4 fans if you looking

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

is a much better case. comes with 7 fans 2

if your budget for teh case is lower just let me know but dont kill ur rig with a bad psu. u have a lot of stuff to power there and thats the last thing youd want to happen after spending all that money

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

this case also pretty good with 8 fans.
July 14, 2011 6:52:31 AM

Well I just ordered everything, save the RAM, GPUS, and the case.

Got an awesome price on a freakin 1000w PSU
OCZ ZX Series 1000W ATX12V 24PIN Active PFC 80 Plus Gold 83A Power Supply 140MM Fan Black 5 Yr Wrty
152 after rebate, and all the reviews I've read on it are outstanding, 9.5s across, no complaints, plus its fully modular and free shipping :D .
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=13220AC6971&v...

Anyways, still on the wire about the case.. Down the to element G or the Antec DF-85 I think..

The cards I want are currently out of stock, plan to order when they are in. MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II OC GeForce GTX 570 Fermi 732MHZ 1280MB 3.8GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI Video Card
340
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD1893&v...

Going to order the ram from newegg tomorrow, cheaper and only half way across the country as opposed to the other side.
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL
85 After tax n shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Kind of leaning toward the antec.. What do you all think?
July 14, 2011 8:50:37 PM

i think the antec is definately the way to go
July 19, 2011 5:09:36 AM

Well I just wanted to thank everyone for their help, I just now ordered the last parts, the GPU and the Case. Yes thats right Gpu, singular, didn't get two, for now.

GTX 580: Got tired of waiting for the two 570 MSI Frozr to be in stock so I got a single MSI 580 GTX Twin Frozr instead with the idea I can buy another down the road and SLi when I need. This also gives me a single powerful GPU for the games that don't support SLi, which is great. Plus Sli 580s out perform the 590, and have infintly more overclocking capability. As well I ended up with a 1000w Psu so I figured hell I might as well make that thing buzz.

Case: Ended up going with the HAF 932 instead of either of the other cases (DF-85 and the element G.) The G didn't have a side window and I decided I could fit a full tower better than a mid if I rearrange. Colorshift is cool but I'd get tired of it after the first day, old case has something similar. DF-85 on the other hand just looks like ***. I like the 3 front fans, and the dust filters, but besides that I'd hate sitting down to it every time I used it.

Haf has excellent airflow. Has front Sata 3.0 Has huge side fan PLUS window. Looks pretty damn good, Red LED front fan. Also it has the option to mount PSU top or bottom.. Seeing as the Frozrs blow air downward into the case I'm actually considering top mounted PSU and somehow installing a fan in the bottom PSU slot, would work so well for cooling those GPUS..

Well anyway, heres the full build.. I'm to tired to link, just gonna give general names:

CPU: Sandy Bridge 2500k
MoBo: Gigibyte Z68X-UD3H
Hard Drive : 1TB WD 64 MB cache Sata3
Case: Haf 932 Advanced
GPU: MSI GTX 580 Twin Frozr II
RAM: 8GB 1866 MHZ 9-10-9-28 G skill Rip Jaws
PSU: 1000W OCZ ZX series Gold Certified
Mouse: G 500 Logitech Gaming Mouse
Keyboard: G 110 Gaming Keyboard backlite
CPU cooling: thermaltake 212 (Think its TT)

Monitor: BenQ 120 MHZ 23.6 Inch gaming monitor. (IS BenQ a decent brand..? Someone recommended it earlier and I didn't look at other 120Mhz monitors)

Anyway, total after shipping, tax, and everything else is 2137.58$ CAD. - 20.00 I think for MIR on the PSU. Thinking plus another 350 by the time I need the second 580 GTX.

Hoping to hell it all arrives before or on Friday. Have the weekend off so I can sit on my ass and put together my first self build.

So.. Whos up for assembling support!?!?! :D 
July 19, 2011 11:28:00 AM

Yeah! Single GTX 580 ftw, SLI down the road. Speaking of which...I'm down that road, guess it's that time...
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