I’m finally getting around to building a new machine and I’m discovering things have changed enough that I’m now lost on the config for a few items. Suggestions appreciated. I plan to start ordering parts within the next day or two.
How I use the system:
70% General purpose (including online flash games for the kid)
20% Video (XBMC)
10% Games
But that will change with the new machine (kid getting older, I have more time for games etc), so by winter I expect the distribution to be something like
50% General purpose
25% Video
25% Games
I’m also on a budget (would like to keep everything under $850 for now). I plan to upgrade the video later so for now I’m just keeping my old card (nVidia GT220). I’d like to update to something more impressive (which isn’t saying much given the current card) but that won’t happen until the fall.
I also plan to overclock but again, not until fall. Right now I just don’t have the time to do it and there’s hardly a point with the current GPU).
Planned Config:
Case:
Cooler Master HAF 912
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA
$56
PSU:
(this was my initial plan but the more I look the more concerned I get that I have no clue what I’m doing with PSUs)
Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Certified-Compatible-Platforms-CMPSU-600CXV2/dp/B004W2T2UQ
$67
Motherboard:
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-P67-Extreme4-B3-Motherboard/dp/B004QTHYZK
$160
CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2500K-Processor-3-3GHz-LGA1155/dp/B004EBUXHQ
$220
CPU Cooler:
(I realize I don’t need it now but it’s fairly easy to install now and not worry about later when I get around to overclocking)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0
$35
RAM:
(This is also one where I’m lost. Below is the original plan, but suggestions welcome)
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231440
$65 (after $15 promo code)
HDD:
Western Digital WD Caviar Black 750 GB SATA 3 7200 RPM
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Internal-3-5-Inch-Desktop/dp/B0036Q7MV0
$60
Optical:
LG DVD±RW SuperMulti Drive 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH22NS50 Bulk – OEM (or any similar cheap burner)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216
$19
Fans:
TBD, but it looks like the case can use some help so I’ll probably get a couple of nice LED fans (green) so assume $25
OS:
Windows 7 Home Premium
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Builder/dp/B004Q0PT3I
$100
GPU (holdover, listed for reference only):
EVGA nVidia GeForce GT 220 1 GB DDR3 DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card 01G-P3-1226-LR
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SG7LUQ
Various things that plug in (keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc) are all holdovers so no need to burn money there.
TOTAL INITIAL OUTLAY = $827.
Questions:
PSU - The Corsair Builder Series CX600 seemed like a decent PSU but as I’ve read more I’m getting concerned that I won’t have enough power once I upgrade the GPU. I don’t know what the final GPU will be (won’t decide until I look at price/performance at the time) but either 1 screamer or more likely 2 slightly lower models (if I was doing it today, maybe Radeon HD 6850 1GB in Crossfire or GeForce GTX 460 1 GB in SLI). That suggests I’m way underpowered but it seems that the last TH system build marathon supported 2 6850s on a 650w PSU so maybe I’m close?
RAM - I initially picked the RAM based on price, latency and size (8GB seemed nice and roomy). Once again, as I dug deeper I realized I didn’t know what I was talking about. I read on Proximon’s “A Guide to Choosing Computer Parts” post that Sandy Bridge/P67 combos might place a higher premium on frequency rather than latency. I also looked around and everyone seemed to be suggesting 4GB for a build in this range so maybe 8GB is overkill? On the other hand, everyone else is worried about buying the GPU. I’m not. I’m going to stick with the old GT220 until fall then drop a few hundred on something nice.
Other Components - I'm much more comfortable with the rest of my selection but if someone has suggestions, I’ll listen (or read, technically, but whatever).
A few other notes:
I typically keep a machine for 4-5 years so I want something that will last (probably not going to want to save money on the CPU).
I realize the half-now/half-later build approach is odd but the inlaws’ PC is dying now so if I give them my old machine now, I have an excuse to build a new machine now - unfortunately I don’t have the cash for the GPUs I want yet.
I prefer ordering from Amazon since I have a Prime membership there (free, fast shipping) but I'll order from newegg.com as well.
Thanks.
How I use the system:
70% General purpose (including online flash games for the kid)
20% Video (XBMC)
10% Games
But that will change with the new machine (kid getting older, I have more time for games etc), so by winter I expect the distribution to be something like
50% General purpose
25% Video
25% Games
I’m also on a budget (would like to keep everything under $850 for now). I plan to upgrade the video later so for now I’m just keeping my old card (nVidia GT220). I’d like to update to something more impressive (which isn’t saying much given the current card) but that won’t happen until the fall.
I also plan to overclock but again, not until fall. Right now I just don’t have the time to do it and there’s hardly a point with the current GPU).
Planned Config:
Case:
Cooler Master HAF 912
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA
$56
PSU:
(this was my initial plan but the more I look the more concerned I get that I have no clue what I’m doing with PSUs)
Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 watt
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Certified-Compatible-Platforms-CMPSU-600CXV2/dp/B004W2T2UQ
$67
Motherboard:
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-P67-Extreme4-B3-Motherboard/dp/B004QTHYZK
$160
CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2500K-Processor-3-3GHz-LGA1155/dp/B004EBUXHQ
$220
CPU Cooler:
(I realize I don’t need it now but it’s fairly easy to install now and not worry about later when I get around to overclocking)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0
$35
RAM:
(This is also one where I’m lost. Below is the original plan, but suggestions welcome)
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231440
$65 (after $15 promo code)
HDD:
Western Digital WD Caviar Black 750 GB SATA 3 7200 RPM
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Internal-3-5-Inch-Desktop/dp/B0036Q7MV0
$60
Optical:
LG DVD±RW SuperMulti Drive 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH22NS50 Bulk – OEM (or any similar cheap burner)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216
$19
Fans:
TBD, but it looks like the case can use some help so I’ll probably get a couple of nice LED fans (green) so assume $25
OS:
Windows 7 Home Premium
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Builder/dp/B004Q0PT3I
$100
GPU (holdover, listed for reference only):
EVGA nVidia GeForce GT 220 1 GB DDR3 DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card 01G-P3-1226-LR
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SG7LUQ
Various things that plug in (keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc) are all holdovers so no need to burn money there.
TOTAL INITIAL OUTLAY = $827.
Questions:
PSU - The Corsair Builder Series CX600 seemed like a decent PSU but as I’ve read more I’m getting concerned that I won’t have enough power once I upgrade the GPU. I don’t know what the final GPU will be (won’t decide until I look at price/performance at the time) but either 1 screamer or more likely 2 slightly lower models (if I was doing it today, maybe Radeon HD 6850 1GB in Crossfire or GeForce GTX 460 1 GB in SLI). That suggests I’m way underpowered but it seems that the last TH system build marathon supported 2 6850s on a 650w PSU so maybe I’m close?
RAM - I initially picked the RAM based on price, latency and size (8GB seemed nice and roomy). Once again, as I dug deeper I realized I didn’t know what I was talking about. I read on Proximon’s “A Guide to Choosing Computer Parts” post that Sandy Bridge/P67 combos might place a higher premium on frequency rather than latency. I also looked around and everyone seemed to be suggesting 4GB for a build in this range so maybe 8GB is overkill? On the other hand, everyone else is worried about buying the GPU. I’m not. I’m going to stick with the old GT220 until fall then drop a few hundred on something nice.
Other Components - I'm much more comfortable with the rest of my selection but if someone has suggestions, I’ll listen (or read, technically, but whatever).
A few other notes:
I typically keep a machine for 4-5 years so I want something that will last (probably not going to want to save money on the CPU).
I realize the half-now/half-later build approach is odd but the inlaws’ PC is dying now so if I give them my old machine now, I have an excuse to build a new machine now - unfortunately I don’t have the cash for the GPUs I want yet.
I prefer ordering from Amazon since I have a Prime membership there (free, fast shipping) but I'll order from newegg.com as well.
Thanks.