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July 2, 2012 3:32:39 PM

hello,
am building a extreme rig with quad 7970's,i7 3960x and asus rampage 4 extreme....now for physx i want to install an additional card..
i was planning on using the physx card on the middle pcie slot(grey 16x,working as 8x) on the motherboard....but after installing the 4 7970's with ek waterblock's,will there be enough space to install a physx card in the middle slot?
i know a weak card can handle physx smoothly but i didnt want to use a really low quality card...i chose this as its low profile+waterblock is attached///

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

would i be able to install it on the middle slot?
is the waterblock attached to the card to thick and should i buy this card without waterblock and use seperate ek block so that its thinner or something else?
and if the card is too thick even after installing another waterblock,
would i be able to use this in the middlec pcie slot??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Plz help

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July 2, 2012 3:57:48 PM

sorry, you can't physx with AMD card's that is kinda impossible just buy 2x gtx 680's enoughhh.
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July 2, 2012 4:16:52 PM

Couple problems: 1. all that won't fit (unless blocked), 2. CF + PhysX isn't supported short of a (hacked) driver which are typically old. Also, a GTX 580 is CrAzy for a PhysX -- way way overkill.

My recommendation is 4-WAY SLI GTX 680's 4GB versions, PCIe 3.0 (mod) and though I know 4-WAY + PhysX is possible I'm just not certain on the R4E. The GeForce GT 640 can work as a PhysX.

The only reason for this setup is 3xHD+ (5760+x1080).

I did the following for David Truby (done on an SR-2):
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July 2, 2012 4:19:06 PM

OMG! that's crazy.
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July 2, 2012 4:54:04 PM

is the gtx 680 4gb quad sli certified?

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July 2, 2012 4:56:42 PM

yes.
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July 2, 2012 5:06:19 PM

xtreme5 said:
yes.


are you sure?the 680's were only 3 way sli certified and they sucked at quad sli
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July 2, 2012 5:10:03 PM

i really wanted to use the 7970's...would blockage be a problem as am gonna be watercooling??i dont really care about the drivers being old..i just needed physx mainly for batman ac and upcoming physx games.....the cooling will be very serois...gonna be using 2x 560,2x 420 and 1x 360mm rads...isnt blockage basically the main problem of air cooling????
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July 2, 2012 5:33:01 PM

mukitbinazad said:
i really wanted to use the 7970's...would blockage be a problem as am gonna be watercooling??i dont really care about the drivers being old..i just needed physx mainly for batman ac and upcoming physx games.....the cooling will be very serois...gonna be using 2x 560,2x 420 and 1x 360mm rads...isnt blockage basically the main problem of air cooling????

I run 3D Vision and even if the HD 7970's were a tad faster and I could hack my way through it I wouldn't mix AMD+ nVidia -- not any more.

Therefore, IMO you need to make a choice of one or the other.

EK GTX 680's - http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/
ASUS GTX680-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (90-C3CHK0-S0UAY0YZ)
ASUS GTX680-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (90-C1CS22-S0UAY0BZ)
ASUS GTX680-DC2T-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (90-C1CS21-S0UAY0BZ)
Club 3D GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (CGNX-X686)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (02G-P4-2680)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 FTW (02G-P4-3686-KR)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 SC Signature (/w backplate) 2GB GDDR5 (02G-P4-2683)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Superclocked 2GB GDDR5 (02G-P4-2682)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Superclocked+ (/w backplate) 2GB GDDR5 (02G-P4-2684)
Gainward GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (2494)
Gainward GeForce GTX 680 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 (2517)
Gainward GeForce GTX 680 Phantom 4GB GDDR5 (2524)
Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5
Galaxy Geforce GTX 680 SC
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (GV-N680D5-2GD-B)
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (GV-N680OC-2GD rev.1.0)
Inno3D GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (N680-1DDN-E5DS)
KFA² GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (68NPH6DV00G0)
KFA² GeForce GTX 680 Hall of Fame 2GB GDDR5 (68NPH6DT6EXZ)
MSI GeForce GTX 680 Lightning 2 GB (V283-005R)
MSI GTX 680 Twin Frozr III OC 2 GB (V282-016R)
MSI N680GTX-PM2D2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (V801-1234R)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5
Palit GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (NE5X68001042F)
Palit GeForce GTX 680 JetStream 2GB GDDR5 (NE5X680H1042-1040J)
Palit GeForce GTX 680 JetStream 4GB GDDR5 (NE5X680010G2J-1040J)
PNY GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (GF680GTX2GEPB)
Point of View GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (VGA-680-A1)
Zotac GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (ZT-60101-10P)
Zotac GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (ZT-60102-10P)
Zotac GeForce GTX 680 4GB GDDR5 (ZT-60103-10P)
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July 3, 2012 1:08:46 PM

jaquith said:
I run 3D Vision and even if the HD 7970's were a tad faster and I could hack my way through it I wouldn't mix AMD+ nVidia -- not any more.

Therefore, IMO you need to make a choice of one or the other.

EK GTX 680's - http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/
ASUS GTX680-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (90-C3CHK0-S0UAY0YZ)
ASUS GTX680-DC2O-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (90-C1CS22-S0UAY0BZ)
ASUS GTX680-DC2T-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (90-C1CS21-S0UAY0BZ)
Club 3D GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (CGNX-X686)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (02G-P4-2680)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 FTW (02G-P4-3686-KR)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 SC Signature (/w backplate) 2GB GDDR5 (02G-P4-2683)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Superclocked 2GB GDDR5 (02G-P4-2682)
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Superclocked+ (/w backplate) 2GB GDDR5 (02G-P4-2684)
Gainward GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (2494)
Gainward GeForce GTX 680 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 (2517)
Gainward GeForce GTX 680 Phantom 4GB GDDR5 (2524)
Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5
Galaxy Geforce GTX 680 SC
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (GV-N680D5-2GD-B)
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (GV-N680OC-2GD rev.1.0)
Inno3D GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (N680-1DDN-E5DS)
KFA² GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (68NPH6DV00G0)
KFA² GeForce GTX 680 Hall of Fame 2GB GDDR5 (68NPH6DT6EXZ)
MSI GeForce GTX 680 Lightning 2 GB (V283-005R)
MSI GTX 680 Twin Frozr III OC 2 GB (V282-016R)
MSI N680GTX-PM2D2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (V801-1234R)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5
Palit GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (NE5X68001042F)
Palit GeForce GTX 680 JetStream 2GB GDDR5 (NE5X680H1042-1040J)
Palit GeForce GTX 680 JetStream 4GB GDDR5 (NE5X680010G2J-1040J)
PNY GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (GF680GTX2GEPB)
Point of View GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (VGA-680-A1)
Zotac GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (ZT-60101-10P)
Zotac GeForce GTX 680 2GB GDDR5 (ZT-60102-10P)
Zotac GeForce GTX 680 4GB GDDR5 (ZT-60103-10P)


ok,i get it...i know that with 4gb,i wont run out of gfx memory but dont the 4gb cards perform low when compared to the 2gb 680's?why should i get the 4gb version?and whats the best 2gb gtx 680?
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July 3, 2012 1:10:31 PM

btw,amd cards can run in 3d surround with the eyefinity 2.0
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July 3, 2012 1:47:13 PM

I have nothing at all against the new AMD 7000 series GPU's, and I've built many systems using the HD 7970 -- it's a great GPU. Frankly, I'm pissed nVidia didn't offer >2GB i.e. 3GB or 4GB standard/reference GTX 680. What they should have done IMO is GTX 670 2GB reference and GTX 4GB reference. For enthusiasts this has been a PITA and nVidia aggravated many folks -- well at least the extreme enthusiasts.

What you can run is HD3D + Eyefinity (AMD Eyefinity 3D) until recently you couldn't and 3D Vision was the only choice.

Hey I do NOT want to be the one who pushed you into a 2GB GTX 680, and let me tell you now today (5900x1080/bezel) WILL vRAM bottleneck in some games with highest details + high AA e.g. BF3.

Suggestion - The rumor mill has it that EVGA will be releasing a 4GB GTX 680 HYDRO COPPER CLASSIFIED (soon ~couple weeks) - http://www.evga.com/articles/00669/#GTX680HydroCopper
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July 3, 2012 2:39:29 PM

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yes you can.!!!!

yep..probably he doesn't know about the physx mod
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July 3, 2012 2:48:40 PM

the 580 wouldnt fit as with the wb attached as it takes 1.5 slots....
there is one slot spacing between each gpu slot on the asus r4e and two slot spacing between the 2nd and 3rd red gpu slots......so the 1st gpu and the 2nd gpu will have 1 slot space..then the 2nd gpu and the physx gpu wont have space between them after installing the physx card/...the same thing will happen to the 3rd card..it wont have space between the physx card....the 3rd and 4th card wont have space between them either because of a pcie sound card that am gonna install....as am heavily watercooling....would the space between the gpu's lay a heavy impact on the performance?




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July 3, 2012 2:53:50 PM

jaquith said:
(5900x1080/bezel) WILL vRAM bottleneck in some games with highest details + high AA e.g. BF3.


hmm....i get it now...
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July 3, 2012 2:59:00 PM

Q - What Monitor(s)?
Q - 2D or 3D?
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July 3, 2012 3:10:05 PM

jaquith said:
Q - What Monitor(s)?
Q - 2D or 3D?


samsung s27a950d(3d)
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July 3, 2012 3:34:24 PM

wow... The big dogs have come out to play!
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July 3, 2012 3:43:37 PM

Mate you don't have the PCI-e slots to do Quad CF and add any other PCI device to that mobo.
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July 3, 2012 3:45:05 PM

Hello mister 7970s + physix mod guy

Yes this setup is possible but u got to change board to SR-2 or SR-X board

Im not sure about the black x8 on R4E as physix

I would've suggested 2x7990s + 640gtx but the 7990s has no release i think

But yah ur setup is killer if the R4E black slot supports physix and use a 640, 240,440 gt/gtx not a 580/680

thx
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July 3, 2012 3:52:10 PM

The Cheaper rout will be 3 x 680 or 4 x 670 either sli all and add the physx option or SLI 1 less and dedicate 1 to phsx you will be much happier than the frankinstein you are trying to make and it will just work... I guess it is obvious money is not an issue here but the amount of heat you will have in your room from 5 video cards will make you need dedicated AC for your gaming room and I am not even kidding. I have 3 gaming computers in my office and it gets to 82 F in my office after a few hours of play..

Thent
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July 3, 2012 4:30:34 PM

@joedjnpc

are you kidding me?lol..you really should check out the asus r4e...

@peanut_316

a 580 might support the middle slot....am 80% sure with the 580 ftw hydro copper 2..not so sure about the 580 ultra classified as its wb is thicker..and it wont support the 680 hydrocopper as the evga 680 hydrocopper isn't a single slot card....

@Thently

am building a loop with a lot of rads...so hopefully heat wont be the prob....and the frankenstein is not only gonna work but also kick some ass.....well all sli/xfire builds have some bad sides..they literally suck at some games...and my room is ac'd
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July 3, 2012 4:45:58 PM

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yes you can.!!!!

sweety, it works but you need to HACK their drivers so this not an good idea :non:  nor give you the exact result which does nvidia gives.
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July 3, 2012 4:50:27 PM

jaquith said:
Couple problems: 1. all that won't fit (unless blocked), 2. CF + PhysX isn't supported short of a (hacked) driver which are typically old. Also, a GTX 580 is CrAzy for a PhysX -- way way overkill.

My recommendation is 4-WAY SLI GTX 680's 4GB versions, PCIe 3.0 (mod) and though I know 4-WAY + PhysX is possible I'm just not certain on the R4E. The GeForce GT 640 can work as a PhysX.

The only reason for this setup is 3xHD+ (5760+x1080).

I did the following for David Truby (done on an SR-2):
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/Jaquith/SLI-PhysX-Chart.jpg



the gtx 580 classified ultra won't fit but the gtx 680 ftw hydrocopper will surely fit..:D ...gonna be using 2x ek dual parallel
bridges so that the bridges don't go over the 580 and gonna use a koolance splitter and gonna turn the 3 flows into one....................
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July 3, 2012 4:51:09 PM

Best answer selected by mukitbinazad.
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July 3, 2012 4:51:50 PM

why do you want QUAD gpu setup what are you planning to use this system for?
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July 3, 2012 5:17:26 PM

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you have no clue, and just re-classified you as noobie level... :p 

there are even web-sites specifically for just this 'mod'.
it's quite common and some even call it normal to use 'modded' drivers.
so :non:  back at you for not knowing..
HD Radeon primary and GTX PhysX works well with ALL the benefits of both GPU makers.

not your 'sweety' either.
you can be my 'flunky' though.

listen baby, do not troll and well, you invent your own technology HEHE, just prove that NVIDIA and AMD card work 100% with physx setup show me?? :na: 
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July 3, 2012 5:25:15 PM

1(i5-2500K) + 1(i5-2500K) = 2(i5-2500K)
(1(i5-2500K))^2 = 1(i5-2500K)

1(Nvidia) + 1(Nvidia) = 2(Nvidia) = SLI
(1(Nvidia))^2 = 1(Nvidia)

I'm helping you with the math...
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July 3, 2012 6:23:19 PM

mukitbinazad said:
(1) samsung s27a950d(3d)
(2) can this one fit?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Geez I game for a while and come back to oblivion...other posts...

(1) Nice monitor(s) for AMD Eyefinity 3D, but not good for nVidia's 3D Vision. Instead select from the approved/test monitors and preferably one with the new LightBoost technology -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requireme... My daughter's rig has pre 'LightBoost' and you need to adjust brightness/contrast/etc back and forth (PITA).

(2) If you mean using a GTX 680 Hydro Copper and GTX 580 then 'looking' at it (overlay in Photoshop) then it doesn't seem possible. However, there's a strong possibility with EK or Koolance blocks to get the inlets to 'line-up'. If using a single monitor then SLI GTX 680 + PhysX and you're good.

This is the only 4-WAY + PhysX that I know and even David ran a GT 240 for the PhysX on 'air'.



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July 3, 2012 10:45:01 PM

i know...

(i5-2500K)² = (25i²-25000iK+6250000K²)

Now it make more sense...
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July 3, 2012 10:58:15 PM

Quote:
1.) GTX 580
2.) (SLi) GTX 560-Ti
3.) GTX 550-Ti
4.) GTX 460
5.) GT 340

(not included, used as back-up/build GPU)
* GTS 250

Oh geez... I'm not going to try and do that math...

What did the GT 340 come out of?
Those are kind of rare.
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July 4, 2012 1:56:14 PM

jaquith said:
Geez I game for a while and come back to oblivion...other posts...

(1) Nice monitor(s) for AMD Eyefinity 3D, but not good for nVidia's 3D Vision. Instead select from the approved/test monitors and preferably one with the new LightBoost technology -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requireme... My daughter's rig has pre 'LightBoost' and you need to adjust brightness/contrast/etc back and forth (PITA).

(2) If you mean using a GTX 680 Hydro Copper and GTX 580 then 'looking' at it (overlay in Photoshop) then it doesn't seem possible. However, there's a strong possibility with EK or Koolance blocks to get the inlets to 'line-up'. If using a single monitor then SLI GTX 680 + PhysX and you're good.

This is the only 4-WAY + PhysX that I know and even David ran a GT 240 for the PhysX on 'air'.



i am gonna use quad 7970's+gtx 580....and these monitors are best for hd3d surround
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July 4, 2012 2:00:44 PM

xtreme5 said:
listen baby, do not troll and well, you invent your own technology HEHE, just prove that NVIDIA and AMD card work 100% with physx setup show me?? :na: 


well i dont know about the results..maybe a little less than if you re using all nvidia cards..but the truth is,who cares?lol...i cant get more than this....am using the best hardware possible...wouldve used the evga gtx 680 hc if it wasnt more that single slot..the gtx 580 classified ultra also has the same problem.... :(  ..
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July 4, 2012 2:05:01 PM

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Zotac GT 340 1GB 128-bit GDDR5....
it's like the GT 240 with a minor tweak and like the GT 240 does better than the GT 440 in light gaming but not DX11.
this was a retail version that never made it to retail since nVidia made the 3-series OEM.
here's where you might get one:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GT340-PCIE-1024...
I know your not interested I was just linking for reference.

but I worked @ Dell for many years and got a lot of goodies as I was leaving.
these were for certain XPS and then AlienWare models.


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