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Ati radeon 4670 \'out of memory\' in empire total war

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May 2, 2011 10:28:38 AM

Hey Guys
I got a self built PC. Using Speccy, i got this to show


Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 41 °C
Kentsfield 65nm Technology

4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 533MHz (5-7-7-24)

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. EP45C-DS3R (Socket 775)

VX1940w (1680x1050@59Hz)
ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series (Sapphire/PCPartner) 55 °C

Hard Drives
29.3GB Maxtor Maxtor 53073U6 ATA Device (PATA)
244GB MDT MD2500JB-00REA0 ATA Device (PATA) 42 °C
625GB Western Digital WDC WD6402AAEX-00Y9A0 ATA Device (SATA) 32 °C

Optical Drives

AMD High Definition Audio Device

Whenever i play Empire total war, it runs slowly when the turns are played, graphics are terrible, and it freezes. Now, mor and more often, it has been crashing.

Any ideas.

(I have used newer, faster HDD and it doesnt work)

May 2, 2011 10:33:16 AM

is the memory of the graphics card 512mb?
May 2, 2011 10:50:49 AM

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May 2, 2011 12:29:29 PM

here, check this. a MEMORY DUMP

any ideas

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May 2, 2011 12:32:31 PM

the files are TRUEVISION TGA IMAGE .... .TGA
May 2, 2011 3:51:18 PM

i dont want this post to die off, any new takers. i need it asap
a c 173 U Graphics card
May 2, 2011 9:17:13 PM

This sounds like an issue that I ran into when playing several instances of wow at once or playing wow in windowed mode while fire fox was in the background during a memory leak. I later found it to be virtual memory or pagefile also known as a swap file. This file acts like ram on any modern os but is substantially slower and is subject to the limiting performance of a hard drive. What is your boot drive?
May 2, 2011 9:43:59 PM

it is a small C: drive which ha very little space on it, but the game is located on another HDD .

I have played the smae thing on my newer 6Gb/s 1TB Maxtor HDD , with lots of space. no difference.

any ideas how to stop this swap file thing happening, or reducing its effects.

its strange, cos i got lots of free memory, would it naturally use this swap file thing, or is there another reason for it?

thanks so far :) 
a c 173 U Graphics card
May 2, 2011 9:48:47 PM

Without it modern computing will be very limited as programs and most operating systems consume more memory than what is typically available in ram. In games graphics cards keep a cache known as texture memory for storage of data, it is virtual and outside the card in ram and pagefile. If you have a spare sata port just get a cheap ssd and I can post a guide how to enable the page file there plus you will gain some space on the c drive ;) 

If you do that there will be a general performance boost in most apps being more responsive.

EDIT: You can do it now if you want using one of the other drives.

For Vista and Win 7


Control panel


Advanced system settings


Advanced and then on the bottom there is a section for virtual memory, click change.

Now choose one of the other drives that you want to use like one of the more modern drives. Click custom sze, enter a larger amount than what is for the virtual memory on the c drive. Then click ok, restart, then go back and uncheck the virtual memory for the c drive. Last option no paging file then click on and restart again then you are done.
May 2, 2011 9:50:46 PM

fair do's. i get all that. but why does it only effect ONE (light, low memory using) part of the game, and only 2 games. i play hundreds, no problem

i will look into that. thanks a lot mate :) 
a c 173 U Graphics card
May 2, 2011 9:54:04 PM

I will post later how to do XP sp3.
May 3, 2011 5:06:29 PM

a c 273 U Graphics card
May 3, 2011 5:26:46 PM

Dunland said:
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May 3, 2011 7:35:09 PM

sorry, im new here :s
May 10, 2011 8:14:49 AM

Here are the settings i am using

And here is the MSI burner stats when working fine

This is when it crashes

youtube vid coming soon

May 10, 2011 8:16:39 AM

Sorry, i forgot to add, it crashes like the last pic when
A) you open one particular save game where i have the whole of europe.
B) You open the TRADE panel in the game
C) you play for more than 1h 30mins
May 12, 2011 9:37:36 AM

This problem is arising more and more. it seems to be RAM , GPU or CPU dependent, but the GPU is fine, i got plenty of RAM and my CPU quads are not over working themselves tbh
May 12, 2011 5:03:53 PM

Guys, no replies aint helping me. after looking again at the FPS and the core usage, everything seems in order. nut now the game screen goes a pale grey/blue if you play it for too long, needs a system reboot. what is this?
a c 273 U Graphics card
May 12, 2011 5:07:27 PM

Bumping your thread just because no one is replying could result in it's closure, no one is under any obligation to respond to any thread posted.