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October 11, 2011 7:55:05 PM

Well I've been building a dream pc, and i'd like some experienced input. I'm still a little confused on which graphics card, processor, and if I should pay the extra cash to have them overclock my processor for me.

here's my setup, type in 604508 to bring up my setup

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/loadconfig.asp

Any advice, Recommends, etc. are appreciated. (I don't plan buying this til about january, but not going to get any new series graphics cards because of price.)

Extra questions:

1. Big difference between the i7 and i5 sandy bridge?

2. Is it dangerous for me to OC my processor myself, and if not, would it be bad for it?

p.s. this setup it going with a 24'' haier w/ 1920x1080res. also i plan on buying a i7 sandy bridge down the road.

Thanks for all your help in advance.

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October 11, 2011 8:15:00 PM

A 1000w PSU is way overkill for just a single GTX 580, you only need 650-700w for one. Also, the motherboard you have chosen is $300, and unless you plan on Tri-SLI, is also way overkill.

1. Differences in i7-2600k and i5-2500k: 2600k supports hyperthreading where 2500k does not; 2600k has 2MB more L3 cache; 2600k is 100Mhz higher stock. These differences when gaming are pretty negligible, so if you are just doing that a 2500k is fine. If you plan on doing heavy video editing or very multithreaded applications where hyperthreading would benefit you then go with the 2600k.

2. It's not dangerous as long as you do not increase the voltage beyond the recommended level. Core i7's in general are very good for OCing, it would be bad not to OC it imo.

Also, you want a secondary HDD with that SSD for storage beyond 120GB, which isn't much these days.
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October 11, 2011 8:26:24 PM

I edited your build on that site, check out ticket number: 604705

Edit: Ignore the 18 on the end.
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October 11, 2011 8:26:48 PM

The differences between the Intel® Core™ i5-2500K and the Intel Core i7-2600K
The Intel Core i7-2600K has:
-Hyper-threading 4c/8t
-2MB cache more than the Intel Core i5-2500K
-100MHz high clock speed

The real issue is what you are going to be doing with the system. If you are building this system as a gaming computer then you will find the Intel Core i5-2500K is the best processor for you. Since very few games can take advantage of more than 3 threads the value of hyper-threading on a gaming computer is very minimal. However if you are going to be doing some heavily multi-threaded applications like Adobe CS you will find that the Intel Core i7-2600K is a better processor for your needs.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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October 11, 2011 9:01:28 PM

wow all of you have been extremely helpful. and the 1000w PSU is for a 2nd gtx580 im going to add in the future, possibly summer 2011 or before.

and i am using the hdd from my current computer for rarely used stuff + overflow.

This system will be for extreme gaming btw. would any of you suggest a different video card? i was told if i plan on doing 2 gtx580's in the future i should just get a hd6990?

i've been going back and forth on the 2, and tbh its mainly just $ issues. im working my first job at 16, and im working up for my pc. and so im trying to keep it as low as possible, thinking that 1 gtx580 would be good for a while then investing in a 2nd one.

thoughts on hd6990 vs. gtx580? (one for a little while, then two.)
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October 11, 2011 9:14:36 PM

2x GTX 580's definitely faster than a single 6990, but a 6990 is definitely faster than a single GTX 580. Since you are playing at 1920x1080 res I would recommend you get a GTX 580 now, and when you need more power get a second one.
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October 11, 2011 9:28:24 PM

gmcizzle said:
2x GTX 580's definitely faster than a single 6990, but a 6990 is definitely faster than a single GTX 580. Since you are playing at 1920x1080 res I would recommend you get a GTX 580 now, and when you need more power get a second one.


would it be a choice to go with your idea? the 2 6950's? i just dont want to drop all the cash then be let down not getting max graphics. also they'd dual them for me? and it wouldnt be a pain?

whats the big difference between 6990/6970/6950?

and if i got a 6990, i'd crossfire (i think is what it's called, sorry for my bad knowledge) with a 2nd 6990 down the road?

sorry for so many questions

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October 11, 2011 9:39:00 PM

If you want to max every game (BF3, Metro 2033, etc.) at 1080p with excellent frames then 6950 2gb's in crossfire is the best choice under $600. However, some say the drivers with crossfire are problematic with certain games (Crysis 2 being one). A single GTX 580 with a little OC will also run games at 1080p maxed, but frame rates may dip below 40fps at times. 2x GTX 580's are the ultimate dual card solution now, but will run you $850-900, and at 1080p are a bit overkill for today's games.

Basically:
-2x 6950 2gb will run any game maxed out totally at 1080p with great frames, but you may have driver issues with crossfire.

-A GTX 580 will run any game almost maxed out at 1080p with great frames and you won't have any driver issues at all.
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October 11, 2011 9:56:32 PM

gmcizzle said:
If you want to max every game (BF3, Metro 2033, etc.) at 1080p with excellent frames then 6950 2gb's in crossfire is the best choice under $600. However, some say the drivers with crossfire are problematic with certain games (Crysis 2 being one). A single GTX 580 with a little OC will also run games at 1080p maxed, but frame rates may dip below 40fps at times. 2x GTX 580's are the ultimate dual card solution now, but will run you $850-900, and at 1080p are a bit overkill for today's games.

Basically:
-2x 6950 2gb will run any game maxed out totally at 1080p with great frames, but you may have driver issues with crossfire.

-A GTX 580 will run any game almost maxed out at 1080p with great frames and you won't have any driver issues at all.


Wow you are amazing for the information, I've said it on another thread, but this site is awesome. In 24hours I've asked 5+ questions and everybody has helped me, including you, you have saved me a couple hundred bucks.

sorry for my stupidity but i have just a couple more questions.

-when you say driver problems, what do you mean exactly in full detail? (links to sites would work if that would be easier for you)

-what are your thoughts on 2x hd 6950 vs. 2x gtx 580? and can the 6950's be OC'ed as well as the 580's?

-i also do a lot of GTA IV (like modding etc. mostly enb visuals, which make the game look like a game from 2015), would 2x 6950 be able to run maxed out? if not, what about 2x gtx 580?

p.s., played Metro 2033, idk how it's not rated better than Black Op's etc, (except multiplayer of course) the game is kickass can't wait for next one to come out.
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October 11, 2011 10:20:46 PM

Check out http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...

I can't speak for the 6950's or 6970's but the GTX 580 is an amazing OCer. On my GTX 580 with stock 772mhz speeds I was able to get 856mhz on stock voltage and 910mhz @ 1.1v.

If you can afford it, 2x GTX 580 will be the fastest setup without a doubt, but make sure to get a better 900w+ PSU to go along with them.
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October 11, 2011 10:31:37 PM

gmcizzle said:
Check out http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...

I can't speak for the 6950's or 6970's but the GTX 580 is an amazing OCer. On my GTX 580 with stock 772mhz speeds I was able to get 856mhz on stock voltage and 910mhz @ 1.1v.

If you can afford it, 2x GTX 580 will be the fastest setup without a doubt, but make sure to get a better 900w+ PSU to go along with them.


but is 800w enough for the 6950's? i don't want to borderline it =\
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October 11, 2011 10:38:04 PM

A quality 800w from a good brand like Corsair is enough for 2 6950's.
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October 11, 2011 10:41:58 PM

gmcizzle said:
A quality 800w from a good brand like Corsair is enough for 2 6950's.


when im doing hardcore gaming (of course the 6950's wont have to squeeze out all their power), how many watts you think ill hit?
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October 11, 2011 11:21:40 PM

Best answer selected by kllrfrk.
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