AMD FX-4170 MIA???

[szalkerous]

Anyone else notice that the FX-4170 (4.2Ghz quadcore) is missing from the launch today?

That's the only CPU I really cared about, given that most games won't take any advantage of 8 cores....

 

[Dyjon54]

I also want the 4170. sinceI only have a trie core right now and not a quad was thinking of getting a 4100 and just overclocking the heck out of it.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

the 4100 *is* available though

 

[samuelspark]

It's not supposed to have come out. It's coming out Q1 2012. Here's the 4100 for $130 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0376784. Pretty pricey compared to a dual core phenom which can be unlocked at $85.

 

[Dyjon54]

I don't like to unlock things. You run the risk of things becoming unstable. I have a tri core that was to "suppose to Unlock" But If I unlocked it , it was unstable. For 130 it may not be so bad if it can get a high overclock on air. (4.4 or higher)

 

[Outlander_04]

It's not supposed to have come out. It's coming out Q1 2012. Here's the 4100 for $130 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0376784. Pretty pricey compared to a dual core phenom which can be unlocked at $85.

theres no guarantee a x2 phenom can be unlocked

Whats going to be important for AMD gamers is the performance of the 4100 relative to the phenom 955 , and to intels similarly priced i3 2100.

There are review sites who have run their 8150's on two cores , and at 4100 clock speeds. The results look promising .

 

[Dyjon54]

theres no guarantee a x2 phenom can be unlocked

Whats going to be important for AMD gamers is the performance of the 4100 relative to the phenom 955 , and to intels similarly priced i3 2100.

There are review sites who have run their 8150's on two cores , and at 4100 clock speeds. The results look promising .

we will find out soon enough my friend I am hoping for some good results.

 

[maroon1]

Looks like FX-4170 (4.2GHz) is slower than two year old i5 750 in almost all benchmarks
http://www.techspot.com/review/452-amd-bulldozer-fx-cpus/page10.html

 

[gamerk316]

^^ Thats because its a two core processor with 2-way SMT. Those second "cores" of a BD module take a performance hit, so a "4 core" BD is slightly less performance then 4 true cores. And as IPC got worse, it follows that a PII X4 would outperform the 4170.

 

[alextheblue]

^^ Thats because its a two core processor with 2-way SMT. Those second "cores" of a BD module take a performance hit, so a "4 core" BD is slightly less performance then 4 true cores. And as IPC got worse, it follows that a PII X4 would outperform the 4170.

This may be true, but pricing dictates what the FX series has to compete with. A similarly priced Phenom II is a better deal than an FX-41xx in most cases. Encoding *might* be an exception. I am going to be building a budget gaming rig soon, and even though the board is AM3+, it's getting a Phenom II X4. Good performance for the money, as a platform. I'm going to be graphics bottlenecked anyway.

Although if they release an AM3+ compatible retuned Bulldozer (fixing some of the design issues that are holding it back), and it is competitive, that might give me a nice upgrade path. Especially with Win8 being CMT-aware.