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Upgrading intel pentium 4 HT...how much ram and windows 7??

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October 14, 2011 4:17:21 PM

This is my exact computer, and I would like to know if I can put 2-4gb of ram in it, and what kind of ram.
Right now it only has 1gb of ram.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqYOKpUE4kQ-BlwSBOOo)NUeKg~~0_35.JPG

Also can I put windows 7 32x or 64x on this?

It's for my mom and it's suprisingly fast lol.


Thanks!
October 14, 2011 4:37:26 PM

I do not think the P4 series with HT can do x64. Stick with x86, get 2 gigs of ram, and for malware I use free Avast and free malwarebytes, very little memory footprint.
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October 14, 2011 5:02:03 PM

You can get 4gb of ram with win7 x32. The system will be able to use the vast majority of it and be much faster.
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October 14, 2011 5:36:13 PM

most P4's I know of only support DDR1 and DDR1's max capacity if 1GB sticks I believe. DDR1 sticks arent exactly cheap anymore either.
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October 14, 2011 5:36:44 PM

phatbuddha79 said:
I do not think the P4 series with HT can do x64. Stick with x86, get 2 gigs of ram, and for malware I use free Avast and free malwarebytes, very little memory footprint.

depending on model really, if his p4 is precot or later then it shoulde have the x86-64 instruction set. but to be honest instead of getting new ram you may as well get a new mobo, a conroe and use your ram with maybe another stick for quite cheap.
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October 14, 2011 6:13:49 PM

Most of the Intel® Pentium® 4 processors are 32bit only. Only late in the product of Intel Pentium 4 processors in socket 775 did we release some 64Bit procssors. You would also need to check on the memory that your motherboard can support. To check on a set model of an Intel Pentium 4 processor you can go to ark.intel.com.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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October 14, 2011 6:17:33 PM

IntelEnthusiast said:
Most of the Intel® Pentium® 4 processors are 32bit only. Only late in the product of Intel Pentium 4 processors in socket 775 did we release some 64Bit procssors. You would also need to check on the memory that your motherboard can support. To check on a set model of an Intel Pentium 4 processor you can go to ark.intel.com.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

true but the op did not mention the model number at all. it would help if he did tho
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October 14, 2011 6:21:05 PM

phatbuddha79 said:
most P4's I know of only support DDR1 and DDR1's max capacity if 1GB sticks I believe. DDR1 sticks arent exactly cheap anymore either.

quite a few of them supports rdram and sdram as well but dont think you can get more than 512 per stick. ddr ram is very expensive now and even ddr2 the price is going up
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October 14, 2011 8:26:27 PM

I'm not sure how to find the model number, I don't see any ont he actual tower, and I don't know if it is in Device Manager.

ALso this computer is just for around the house for my mom, I am buying the 3930k with x79 mobo around december.
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October 14, 2011 8:45:36 PM

Run CPU-Z and it will tell you which processor that you are using or have. If you havent put the processor in yet you can copy the part # off the top of the processor and enter it on ark.intel.com.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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October 14, 2011 9:33:28 PM

Intel Pentium 4 630
Prescott
Socket 775 LGA

Memory DDR2 dual channel
1024 MBytes

Max bandwidth PC2 4300 (266 MHz)


Doesn't say anything about 64x or ram capacity
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October 15, 2011 1:36:18 AM

Hah same time, thanks.

How do I find my mobo?
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October 15, 2011 3:47:50 AM

Looks like it^ but not sure about the 533
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October 15, 2011 4:33:44 AM

need something for sure so I can order tomorrow
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October 15, 2011 8:55:41 PM

Can someone give me a definitive conclusion, htanks!
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October 16, 2011 12:56:53 AM

Cant give you a definitive yes no without a motherboard model.
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October 16, 2011 1:08:28 AM

CPU Z doesn't tel me the MOBO make, or does it?
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October 16, 2011 2:02:01 AM

megadelayed said:
depending on model really, if his p4 is precot or later then it shoulde have the x86-64 instruction set. but to be honest instead of getting new ram you may as well get a new mobo, a conroe and use your ram with maybe another stick for quite cheap.



Even if his cpu is 64-bit doesn't mean it's best for him to install 64-bit Windows. Trust me, I just recently tried it and it's best to go 32-bit OS for older hardware. His other components most likely do not have drivers for it.
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October 16, 2011 2:02:54 AM

download belarc advisor. run it then let us know your motherboard and we will search ram for you.
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October 16, 2011 2:12:31 AM

markgerazzi said:
CPU Z doesn't tel me the MOBO make, or does it?


It should under main board, although i cant confirm if it tells correctly or not (been with laptops for far to long, need to get back in with a working desktop.)




If it doesn't, open up the side panel of the computer case and look around. There should be some kind of text that should signify what it is. If you cant find it, take a picture of the motherboard (either high quality resolution or multiple close shots of different section of the MB) and upload them to a site such as photobucket so we can see what were dealing with.

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October 16, 2011 3:09:33 PM

I'm using as I type a northwood p4 with 3GB CAS 2 DDR 400 RAM. I've been using this thing for the past 8 years. Been running Win7 32bit for over a year now. Works like a charm, you just need to be careful to keep the OS running clean, no unneccessary background services/programs.

My P4 is socket 478, so in order to upgrade the CPU, I would have had to upgrade the more: mobo, IDE hard drives, AGP video card, DDR memory all become obsolete after socket 478. This is the reason i still use this old CPU.

You on the other hand are already on socket 775. You have no excuses, you can keep all your other parts and upgrade to a Core 2 duo/quad.
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October 16, 2011 4:47:59 PM

hixbot said:
I'm using as I type a northwood p4 with 3GB CAS 2 DDR 400 RAM. I've been using this thing for the past 8 years. Been running Win7 32bit for over a year now. Works like a charm, you just need to be careful to keep the OS running clean, no unneccessary background services/programs.

My P4 is socket 478, so in order to upgrade the CPU, I would have had to upgrade the more: mobo, IDE hard drives, AGP video card, DDR memory all become obsolete after socket 478. This is the reason i still use this old CPU.

You on the other hand are already on socket 775. You have no excuses, you can keep all your other parts and upgrade to a Core 2 duo/quad.


Actually, not all LGA 775 socket MB can run core 2 duo or above.

My Grandma computer that my dad build has an Asus mother board with lga 775 Pentium 4, DDR2, and PCI-e 1.0 and the best cpu it can use is the Pentium 4.

I think this was the motherboard was this one but it has been a while since I've touched it.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/P5AD2...
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October 19, 2011 8:51:03 AM

In CPU-Z it reads:

Model: OJC474

Chipset: i915P/i915G

LPCIO: SMSC


Can someone link me to the cheapest RAM I can get? I'll do 4gb if possible.
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October 19, 2011 9:55:27 AM

markgerazzi said:
In CPU-Z it reads:

Model: OJC474

Chipset: i915P/i915G

LPCIO: SMSC


Can someone link me to the cheapest RAM I can get? I'll do 4gb if possible.


That hits the stuff! :) 

With that, i was able to track though the internet about the Motherboard model and it links to the Dell Dimension e310.

http://supportapj.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim310...


Only down side is....

Quote:

Type: 400- and 533-MHz DDR2 unbuffered SDRAM

Memory connectors: two

Memory capacities: 256 MB, 512 MB, or 1 GB non-ECC

Maximum memory: 2 GB



you'll only be able to get 2GB in this system.

As for ram, Here a list of them that will max out the computer. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


Now, if someone else can double check what i found is correct, then i think this is has much help i can give in terms of memory.

Hope this helps. :hello: 
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October 19, 2011 4:53:58 PM

2 gigs is much better than 1! It's not for my anyways, I need 32gigs of ram on my system for intense workloads :D 

can anyone confirm this is correct?
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October 19, 2011 4:58:56 PM

Also all these rams are the same it appears, in terms as speed too
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October 19, 2011 6:13:42 PM

markgerazzi said:
Also all these rams are the same it appears, in terms as speed too

for normal use, you wont really notice the difference anyway unless the speed/latency difference is massive
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October 19, 2011 7:01:58 PM

alright then I guess I can go ahead and order
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October 19, 2011 7:55:09 PM

Have you even run a test on it, load it with win7 and then go to facebook and see how it handles. When I tested my old system I came to the conclusion that it was better off in the scrap bin than giving to someone that would be constantly complaining how slow it was. And I mean its really really slow even with 2Gb.

edit - I really would hate to see you throw $100 bucks into something that old when for not much more you could get somethig actually usable and just upgrade the motherboard,cpu, &ram: $50 Mobo+ $50 CPU+ $15 2gb ram (reuse your case & drives)
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October 19, 2011 8:15:16 PM

$100? it's only around $25 in the link he provided:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...(PC2%204200)&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1ru7nhbnyvhdh


Windows 7 32x is running fine and quick on it right now, its just infested with virus's and unnecessary programs which is slowing it down. Last time I reformated it was like new, perfect for a mothers expectations. I would never upgrade this machine, my next build is 6 core sandy e with 8 dimm slots
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October 21, 2011 4:11:41 PM

markgerazzi said:
$100? it's only around $25 in the link he provided:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...(PC2%204200)&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1ru7nhbnyvhdh


Windows 7 32x is running fine and quick on it right now, its just infested with virus's and unnecessary programs which is slowing it down. Last time I reformated it was like new, perfect for a mothers expectations. I would never upgrade this machine, my next build is 6 core sandy e with 8 dimm slots

i think what popatim meant was that there wasnt really any point in upgrading that build anymore as if you can get your hands on a cheap conroe/penryn build it will probably be faster and you will save that amount of money in your electric bill
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October 21, 2011 8:11:49 PM

phatbuddha79 said:
most P4's I know of only support DDR1 and DDR1's max capacity if 1GB sticks I believe. DDR1 sticks arent exactly cheap anymore either.


The memory controller was on the board. Depends on what the board supported, not the chip. And netburst did see DDR2 and 3.

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October 21, 2011 8:14:37 PM

IntelEnthusiast said:
Most of the Intel® Pentium® 4 processors are 32bit only. Only late in the product of Intel Pentium 4 processors in socket 775 did we release some 64Bit procssors. You would also need to check on the memory that your motherboard can support. To check on a set model of an Intel Pentium 4 processor you can go to ark.intel.com.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team


What exactly is the Intel Enthusiast Team tasked with? If all you do is post answers to questions on message boards and build enthusiast machines, then I want your Job!!!!!
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October 22, 2011 2:10:09 AM

markgerazzi said:
Windows 7 32x is running fine and quick on it right now, its just infested with virus's and unnecessary programs which is slowing it down. Last time I reformated it was like new, perfect for a mothers expectations. I would never upgrade this machine, my next build is 6 core sandy e with 8 dimm slots


Ok why would you ask if it can run win 7 if you already have it on there?
You say its running 'suprisingly fast' and then you say 'if it weren't loaded down with viruses and unnecessary programs...

go ahead & do what you want since you have it done already. It'd be wicked fast .. if it worked right.
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