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Upgrade from Phenom 550 to 1090t?

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October 14, 2011 11:35:58 PM

Hey everyone,

I'm just having a moment of indecision about upgrading my processor.
I've got a Phenom x2 550 at the moment (which I can't unlock btw) and I'm looking at moving up to a x6 1090t.
Would this be worthwhile?
I've got a GTX550Ti and 4gb DDR3 ram, and I mainly use my comp for games (Crysis 2, Deus Ex, etc) but also general music, videos, web etc.
I'm mainly upgrading now to get ready for Skyrim :) 
Oh and I can't really afford a new motherboard to switch to Intel and mine's an AM3 so it would be a hassle moving to the new bulldozers too.

Any help would be much, much, much appreciated!
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October 14, 2011 11:53:14 PM

It is not a bad upgrade but a faster X4 would be better for gaming.
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October 15, 2011 12:08:02 AM

rolli59 said:
It is not a bad upgrade but a faster X4 would be better for gaming.


+1, get a 955 and OC it
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October 15, 2011 12:16:57 AM

Can you unlock the extra cores? Also, building a new rig is a waste of money. You'll be spending way to much for a new mobo+CPU to make it worth it, you'll notice hardly any gains.

The only thing you'd gain is high benchmarks for the epeen.
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October 15, 2011 12:18:46 AM

...he already answered your first question and I believe he just wanted to upgrade his CPU (using the same mobo) not put together a whole new build
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October 15, 2011 2:50:02 AM

Yeah a quad core phenom like the 980 was another option actually.
But wouldn't the turbo boost on the 1090t pump it up to 3.6ghz and make it just as good when using 3 or less cores anyway? Seems like the best of both worlds? I could be wrong on that though.

Oh and thanks for the answers :) 
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October 15, 2011 3:04:18 AM

The turbo would be just for a little bit at a time as load increases it will slow down.
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October 15, 2011 5:22:40 AM

If you're considering the 1090t or 960t, be aware that the turbo core feature is, near as makes no difference, useless. I'm speaking from experience with my own 1090t. Although it will turbo to the advertised frequency it will only do so for a very short period of time (have a look at anandtech's coverage of the Bulldozer release). A mild overclock would more than out-do any benefit gained from turbo.

If you're focus is primarily gaming then I agree with the above, the 955 would be the best choice because, assuming you're overclocking it, it will likely hit higher frequencies than a 1090t with much less power draw and heat. The 1090t overclocked and overvolted is a challenge to cool, (one of the benefits of a Canadian winter :)  )
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October 15, 2011 6:49:27 AM

Oh right, that's good to know. I didn't realize the boost was only temporary.
I hardly know anything about OCing at the moment, but I'm getting keen to do some simple stuff.
Maybe I will go for the 955 and try to overclock it. Would that produce much benefit over my current 550 though?
Oh and I'm in New Zealand, so unfortunately can't go for the newegg deals or anything like that...
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October 15, 2011 1:01:51 PM

The only benefit you will see is when more than 2 cores get used, more and more games are coming out that will do that. You will not see any improvements in single threaded apps.
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October 15, 2011 3:26:26 PM

I personally ended up getting the 1090T after research, because it's future-proof (Quads are standard now, six cores will be implented in later years). It overclocks great even on air. (Though I reccomend after market cooling)
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=966&page=5

It also allows great multitasking even while in-game. Also, they both run at the same speed, so gaming performance will be almost the exact same.
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October 15, 2011 3:32:32 PM

Ahelpinghand said:
I personally ended up getting the 1090T after research, because it's future-proof (Quads are standard now, six cores will be implented in later years). It overclocks great even on air. (Though I reccomend after market cooling)
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=966&page=5


how is it future-proofing? i recall people stating the same thing about purchasing the phenom I x4 only to find out when software actually needed 4 cores, the phenom I was so slow it still got beat by CPUs with less cores.
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October 15, 2011 3:45:06 PM

As AMD has suggested Windows 8 (which is in it's beta) will fully implement the power of BD, which says the same for the 1090T, Intel has no plans to implement reasonably priced six cores, nor is AMD reinforcing six cores either. It's going to be coming soon that once new software kicks into gear all six cores will be implemented, I plan to keep the 1090T for years, because inevitably it will last longer than any quad core you can buy now. Might as well pay an extra... 30 for 1055t, or 50 for 1090t to implement 2 more cores
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October 15, 2011 4:02:07 PM

Ahelpinghand said:
As AMD has suggested Windows 8 (which is in it's beta) will fully implement the power of BD, which says the same for the 1090T, Intel has no plans to implement reasonably priced six cores, nor is AMD reinforcing six cores either. It's going to be coming soon that once new software kicks into gear all six cores will be implemented, I plan to keep the 1090T for years, because inevitably it will last longer than any quad core you can buy now. Might as well pay an extra... 30 for 1055t, or 50 for 1090t to implement 2 more cores

The win 8 improvement for the FX will not do anything for the Phenom X6 since they do not have the shared resource issue that the FX CPU's have because of different architecture.
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October 15, 2011 4:19:53 PM

Ahelpinghand said:
As AMD has suggested Windows 8 (which is in it's beta) will fully implement the power of BD, which says the same for the 1090T, Intel has no plans to implement reasonably priced six cores, nor is AMD reinforcing six cores either. It's going to be coming soon that once new software kicks into gear all six cores will be implemented, I plan to keep the 1090T for years, because inevitably it will last longer than any quad core you can buy now. Might as well pay an extra... 30 for 1055t, or 50 for 1090t to implement 2 more cores


that's nothing but marketing garbage, the community was told the same thing with Vista fully utilizing four cores to its fullest, last I checked intel i3 dual cores like the 5 and 6 series where running circles around athlon II quad cores and even the older intel Q series quad cores. By the time the phenom II x4 becomes obsolete, so will the phenom II x6. The extra two cores may help you in video processing but there is no future proofing with it. It's a complete lie and windows 8, 9, or 10 won't make any of that better.

i'm glad you like your phenom II x6 and it should last you a while but it's no more a future proof CPU then the phenom II x4 and here is the the proof below with a entry level intel quad core beating the phenom II x6 in practically every benchmark. by the time windows 8 launches (don't forget there is little demand for it aka vista) intel will have even better offerings and lets hope AMD does as well.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=363

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October 16, 2011 2:50:51 AM

I'm leaning towards the 980 now (i don't really need to save money from the 955). I've been looking at benchmarks which show it being considerably better at gaming than the 1090t, but worse at pretty much everything else. So I had two questions,

1. How would the quad-core 980 handle having itunes, chrome, and a game open at the same time?

2. It sounds pretty easy to overclock the 1090t. If I overclocked it to 3.5 - 3.7 GHZ, would it match the 980 for gaming?


Still loving the help guys, cheers!
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October 16, 2011 12:37:22 PM

Huh my bad xD, but I still hold to the fact that it is more future proof, and you also keep looking at the past supposing the same thing will happen over and over. Also, same thing...1090t would match 980 if it was same clock speed for gaming.
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October 16, 2011 4:35:18 PM

natos17 said:
I'm leaning towards the 980 now (i don't really need to save money from the 955). I've been looking at benchmarks which show it being considerably better at gaming than the 1090t, but worse at pretty much everything else. So I had two questions,

1. How would the quad-core 980 handle having itunes, chrome, and a game open at the same time?

2. It sounds pretty easy to overclock the 1090t. If I overclocked it to 3.5 - 3.7 GHZ, would it match the 980 for gaming?


Still loving the help guys, cheers!


1. i have a phenom II x4 @ 3.8ghz, i can switch back and worth between game screens and win7 home page with no issue and often instantly. chrome and itunes are basic programs that don't need much processing power to operate, in fact your internet speed would be more of a factor then what phenom II processor you have.

2. you just increase the multiplier to OC it and yes it's very easy, performance would be equal to the 980 although price wise it would be more expensive.
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October 23, 2011 1:07:56 AM

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October 23, 2011 8:40:38 AM

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