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May 9, 2011 8:18:16 AM

Ok guys, I've got the money, which should I get? Is the extra bucks from the 590 worth it?

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May 9, 2011 8:24:59 AM

It's to play @ 1080p resolution btw
a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2011 8:33:45 AM

The 590 is a dual gpu card, obviously more powerful than the 580 but can it justify it being double the price , I say not really. But if you want the best and you have the money which you say you have then get the 590. They are both powerful cards, really depends on your resolution etc.

The 580 will suite most people, run games on high settings best suited for 1920 x 1080 but the 590 for anything higher.
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a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2011 8:39:20 AM

Don't waste money on a dual GPU card when Crossfire and SLI are almost 100% scalable, get 2x HD 6950 2GB/2x GTX570, and you'll see even better performance.

As for 1080p a single HD 6950 2GB/ GTX570 would be more than enough.
May 9, 2011 9:10:40 AM

To answer your question, in my opinion, the gtx 590 is not worth the money. I would get the gtx 580 and later SLI it. A single 580 will run any game really good on 1080p. Later down the year the prices will drop, then add another 580 and you should be able to compete and keep up with any other card that eventually will come out.
May 9, 2011 10:01:30 AM

The gtx 590 was 700$ last time I looked. The gtx 580 was around $500. My recommendation is not to invest into a gtx 580. Price to performance ratio is not worth it. If you want one card, get the gtx 570. It's like $350, and gets between 3-10fps less than the gtx580 in some scenes. Ok. If you are looking for better performance, Then go for the gtx 590 or sli. I heard crossfire doesn't scale well so be ware, plus no pyshx. In terms of performance, the 590 vs two sli 570 is about the same, but here's the catch, if your motherboard only supports two slots for pcie, get the 590 so if you want to in the future upgrade to two 590gtx which is quad sli. Cuz if you go with two gtx 570 in sli and you got two slots, clearly you won't be able ot upgrade down the road as easy. Make sure you get a high enough power watt psu and make sure to get a 80 plus certified psu. Make sure your case can fit the video cards to.

Also, it depends on what type of games u want to play, and how much you play. for example, in CSS, with one gtx570 on a server with 32 players on a small map, I'll get as low as 150fps, but with two in sli the lowest I'll get is about 240. That's with highest settings, full aa and what not. On a normal server, its rare to get below 285fps in sli, that's with a 300fps cap FYI, lol. But thats not an extremely intensive game. You will see about double the fps on highest settings on sli, you have the option to run 64x aa instead of like 32x aa in sli as well.

The gtx590 is basically sli on one board as it has a built in sli bridge between the two gpu's.

Let me know if you have anymore questions.


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May 9, 2011 10:44:26 AM

The gtx 580 has been reviewed the fastes single GPU on the market right now by popular pc magazines. So 2 of them should out-performe anything out there for a while, but thats over $1000. Most motherboards rigt now does not support quad SLI, consult your mobo instruction manual.

I agree with EaO on the 570 SLI, I will take that path soon. But thats because I dont have the budget for something better, and quite frankly anything faster than a single gtx 570 on a 1080p res is just for braging rights for now.

EaO your rig is way faster than what I have, I doubt I get those fps. But its good to know that 570 SLI works great. Im now definately getting 570 SLI.
May 9, 2011 11:24:55 AM

Get the 580, save your money into a computer fund, buy a next generation graphics card sooner. The rate at which video technology is advancing is staggering, this is not the time to invest in cards like the 590 and 6990 unless you can pay for them every year and a half, a they're not useful at 1080p.

Although to whoever said get a 570, you're simply wrong. I have tested the 570 (as well as 590 and 580 - which is in my personal computer), and the 580 is the only single gpu card that can play things smoothly at the standard I like; I want high AA, high AF, 1080p, and nothing dropping below 40 fps with all ingame settings maxed including ambient occlusion. 570 doesn't cut that, the 580 does a reasonable job, it's not perfect, but it's what you get for a single gpu card. I don't think the investment in a 590 is worth it, but the 580 is certainly a tangible improvement.
May 9, 2011 12:32:27 PM

I guess is a matter of opinion, really. I say buy whatever fits your budget. If you can get the 590, then by all means. Its obviously faster than the 580, but price per performance is up for debate. I dont believe you will go wrong with any of those cards.
May 9, 2011 3:03:07 PM

thanks for all the reply guys, now I do not know what to do anymore (bastards... :D ) let's see, I play at 1080p, and I do like some eye candy in the graphics, to run stuff @ 60fps, will the one 580 be enough? Or will I run stuff at 40 frames in every game?
May 9, 2011 3:18:05 PM

I dont think all games, but most of them yes, and those that dont at least more than 50fps which is very playable in my opinion. If you go with the 590 definately. You wont be dissapointed with the 590 thats for sure.
a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2011 3:18:24 PM

One 580 is easily more than enough for 1080p. I would even say it's probably overkill.
May 9, 2011 3:21:03 PM

I would go with the 590 just for the heck of it. That card is truly awesome. Another option that would be cheaper than the 590 but would get much better performance than a 580 would be to get AMD 6950s and crossfire them. That could cost about as much as a single 580 but get much better performance. If you're totally for nvidia and you have money to burn, I'd go for the 590.
a c 125 U Graphics card
May 9, 2011 3:27:38 PM

Pretty sure SLI 560 Ti is going to outperform a 590 at much less cost. Especially since they can OC very well compared to the 590 exploding when OCed lol. (Actually just looked at the reviews on Guru3D. They perform nearly the same at stock, 590 just slightly faster by a couple fps)

IMO check out SLI 560 Ti and Crossfire 6950 2gb. Significanly better price/performance and will max all games at 1080p easily.

If you want to go a little overboard then SLI 570 or CF 6970. A single 580 is nice but the price premium is a little steep, and same goes for the 590. The only time I'd recommend a 580 is for SLI 580 on 3 2560x1600 screens lol.
May 9, 2011 3:35:27 PM

wolfram23 said:
Pretty sure SLI 560 Ti is going to outperform a 590 at much less cost. Especially since they can OC very well compared to the 590 exploding when OCed lol.

IMO check out SLI 560 Ti and Crossfire 6950 2gb. Significanly better price/performance and will max all games at 1080p easily.

If you want to go a little overboard then SLI 570 or CF 6970. A single 580 is nice but the price premium is a little steep, and same goes for the 590. The only time I'd recommend a 580 is for SLI 580 on 3 2560x1600 screens lol.


So two 560ti out performs or is at least equal to one 590? I just want to play stuff 60fps @ 1080p.

What do you think about these? http://www.globaldata.pt/#?p=ProdDetailRef&ProdRef=01G-...

I was thinking to go with this 580 SC from EVGA: http://www.globaldata.pt/#?p=ProdDetailRef&ProdRef=015-...
a c 125 U Graphics card
May 9, 2011 3:53:29 PM

Well I have two 5850s in CF and play at 1080p, and there's only 2 games I've had any sort of FPS issue: Metro 2033 and Cryostasis. Cryostasis just wasn't that well coded, but I still played it at max settings at at least 30fps+, usually 50+. Metro 2033 plays at about the same FPS when totally maxed, but with just DoF turned off (4xMSAA on) it was 50+.

Two 6950s or two 560s are going to be a lot faster than what I have.

My cards perform around the same as a 580, but I'd guess the 580 has better min FPS and deals with DX11 stuff better... so yeah a single 580 would do the trick, but SLI 560s is faster than that.

Unfortunately your links are just sending me to the same page with a lot of items on it.
a c 592 U Graphics card
May 9, 2011 5:07:11 PM

Two GTX 570's in SLI is more the equal of a single 590. As you can see in the chart below, much depends on the particular game being played, but the 570's are generally faster in a few games. Focusing on the green lines, bars to the left of center favor the GTX 570's in SLI, while green bars to the right of center favor the GTX 590 (click for a larger image):




As a GTX 580 owner playing at 1080p, I can tell you that I have yet to run into a game that stresses the card in the least (with the exception of the Metro 2033 demo at max settings). With that said, I have thought about the GTX 590; there are performance gains to be had. Ultimately, I feel that it is not worth it.

Now, since you have GTX 590 cash, the solution for you is not a dual card setup, but to get one of the high-end custom GTX 580's, and the one I would get is the Gigabyte GTX 580 Superoverclock (SOC). Check out this review where they had this conclusion:
"To date this is the fastest GTX 580 we've had in our hands, and in fact this is the fastest single GPU graphics card tested to date. Now we tried to nitpick and look for small subtleties that could be better, but quite honestly, there isn't much worth even mentioning. We came up empty as all negative variables on this product seem to have been ruled out."
http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-580-...

"Gigabyte peeked at the NVIDIA reference GeForce GTX 580, then took the GeForce GTX 580 GPU, and threw the rest away. They designed a new PCB loaded with features and overclocking potential, slapped some really cool memory on the card and topped off that GPU with the all new WindForce 3X cooler. The cooler design is Gigabytes first generation triple-fan solution. It features 3 quiet PWM fans, three copper heat pipes and a vapor chamber to strengthen the speed of heat dissipation.

The new cooler allows really high clocks with low volume levels AND keeps the card pretty darn cool. Then Gigabyte added stuff, like a very nice factory overclock, dual-BIOS, the Ultra Durable design strategy which includes durable components like Proadlizers, the 2 oz Copper PCB, top-tier gDDR5 Memory, Solid Capacitors, Ferrite Core, Metal Chokes and Low RDS MOSFETs, all good stuff.

In many ways the GeForce GTX 580 SO/SOC surprised us, including heat and noise levels, but also the overclocking potential."
May 9, 2011 8:19:14 PM

17seconds said:
Two GTX 570's in SLI is more the equal of a single 590. As you can see in the chart below, much depends on the particular game being played, but the 570's are generally faster in a few games. Focusing on the green lines, bars to the left of center favor the GTX 570's in SLI, while green bars to the right of center favor the GTX 590 (click for a larger image):

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/geforce-gtx-590/26_multi-aa_big.png


As a GTX 580 owner playing at 1080p, I can tell you that I have yet to run into a game that stresses the card in the least (with the exception of the Metro 2033 demo at max settings). With that said, I have thought about the GTX 590; there are performance gains to be had. Ultimately, I feel that it is not worth it.

Now, since you have GTX 590 cash, the solution for you is not a dual card setup, but to get one of the high-end custom GTX 580's, and the one I would get is the Gigabyte GTX 580 Superoverclock (SOC). Check out this review where they had this conclusion:
"To date this is the fastest GTX 580 we've had in our hands, and in fact this is the fastest single GPU graphics card tested to date. Now we tried to nitpick and look for small subtleties that could be better, but quite honestly, there isn't much worth even mentioning. We came up empty as all negative variables on this product seem to have been ruled out."
http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-580-...

"Gigabyte peeked at the NVIDIA reference GeForce GTX 580, then took the GeForce GTX 580 GPU, and threw the rest away. They designed a new PCB loaded with features and overclocking potential, slapped some really cool memory on the card and topped off that GPU with the all new WindForce 3X cooler. The cooler design is Gigabytes first generation triple-fan solution. It features 3 quiet PWM fans, three copper heat pipes and a vapor chamber to strengthen the speed of heat dissipation.

The new cooler allows really high clocks with low volume levels AND keeps the card pretty darn cool. Then Gigabyte added stuff, like a very nice factory overclock, dual-BIOS, the Ultra Durable design strategy which includes durable components like Proadlizers, the 2 oz Copper PCB, top-tier gDDR5 Memory, Solid Capacitors, Ferrite Core, Metal Chokes and Low RDS MOSFETs, all good stuff.

In many ways the GeForce GTX 580 SO/SOC surprised us, including heat and noise levels, but also the overclocking potential."


Great post Matto, thank you all for the tips!

I went to the store 2 ours ago and I got the 580 from EVGA, SC one... I went almost to 2x 570 BUT I started to think, I get one 580 now, and if I'm not happy, in a couple a months I will get another 580 and add them in SLI, then I will get a run for maybe a year.

Again, thanks all for the tips/info/help :) 
a c 592 U Graphics card
May 9, 2011 10:39:13 PM

Kuimera said:
Great post Matto, thank you all for the tips!

I went to the store 2 ours ago and I got the 580 from EVGA, SC one... I went almost to 2x 570 BUT I started to think, I get one 580 now, and if I'm not happy, in a couple a months I will get another 580 and add them in SLI, then I will get a run for maybe a year.

Again, thanks all for the tips/info/help :) 

I'll give that two thumbs up!
July 19, 2011 6:59:58 AM

Questions is, if the 3 GB of memory in GTX590 can be used as a whole in a tipple monitor 2560 x 1600 setup. If so, that would be a huge advantage over a GTX580 SLI solution, where only 1.5 of VRAM may be used.

I am in the market for a Water Cooled GTX590 from EVGA just for its 3GB VRAM, but if the card merely implements an internal SLI between two GTX580 limiting the usage of mem to 1.5GB; I wont bother getting the GTX590, but instead start with a MSI Twin Frozer GTX580 and add one more on-demand.

July 19, 2011 7:20:55 AM

My sli 560ti are rock solid, running even crysis 2 in ultra settings at 1080p without missing a beat.

I kind of wish they had more ram as I can see that being the main thing that will hold them back in the future, but there are 2gb 560ti's to be had now.

You won't be sad if you get any of the following in sli/xfire

6870, 560, 560ti, 6950, 6970.

Just do it.
a c 271 U Graphics card
July 19, 2011 12:36:41 PM

Malin said:
Questions is, if the 3 GB of memory in GTX590 can be used as a whole in a tipple monitor 2560 x 1600 setup. If so, that would be a huge advantage over a GTX580 SLI solution, where only 1.5 of VRAM may be used.

I am in the market for a Water Cooled GTX590 from EVGA just for its 3GB VRAM, but if the card merely implements an internal SLI between two GTX580 limiting the usage of mem to 1.5GB; I wont bother getting the GTX590, but instead start with a MSI Twin Frozer GTX580 and add one more on-demand.

Two GTX580's and a GTX590 have and will use the same amount of Vram.
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