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July 19, 2011 7:07:32 AM

I am about to come home from iraq so im prolly going to purchase the rest around the 10th of aug. any suggestions?

Already bought---(found on sale)

--Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

--MSI N580 GTX Lightning edition
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-Lightning.html

8GB Corsair Vengeance BLU RAM 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Dont need--

-dvd drive
-OS
-monitor
-mouse
-keyboard

The Rest--

--MOBO-- i am on the edge for this one but the 3 i was looking at are these.

-MSI Z68A-GD65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-ASUS P8Z68-v PRO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

--PSU

-Corsair-HX 850W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Antec CP-1000W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

--CPU cooler

--Corsair H60 liquid CPU cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

--CPU

-I5 2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

--HDD

-possibly a SSD, if i can get a deal

-WD caviar Black 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

thanks for the input! :D 





July 19, 2011 8:19:09 AM

Mobo:
They are all nice choices.


PSU:
Since you do have the antec 1200, the CP-1000W is such a good deal that it's hard to pass up.
Especially if you intend to SLI the 580 at some point, it will be perfect for that.
The only problem it really has is that while it's efficient, it's 'only' 80+.
But undeniably the HX850 is a great PSU ( i own 2 ). So you can't really go wrong with either one,
so if you intend to SLI the 1000w would win, otherwise i would probably go for the HX850.

CPU cooler:
Heard a lot of good things about it, esp with it's sound profile.
So probably a nice choice.

CPU:
Excellent choice.

HDD:
For SSD's:
Intel 510, Corsair Force 3, OCZ agility 3, OCZ Vertex 3, Crucial M4 at 60GB-120GB probably.

Samsung spinpoint F3 1TB for the HDD $64.99 - cheaper, faster, more reliable.




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July 19, 2011 3:05:33 PM

mobo- asus and gigabyte make great motherboards i would personally go with the ud4 to save money since they are both very similar

psu- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... this is a great psu and will handle those 580's with ease. will you sli?

cpu cooler- http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Heatpipe-Bearing-Cooler-NH... the fan on the h60 is loud and does not give great performance. you need to buy 2 fans extra to get to the nh-d14's performance which will pretty much eqaul its price

hdd- http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern... cheaper than newegg

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July 19, 2011 3:22:58 PM

I like the ASUS and Gigabyte boards.

The corsair 850W is enough to power one or two 580s. Good choice.

The H60 sucks and if you don't get two aftermarket fans on it barely runs better than a stock cooler. I bought it before the price drop and with the aftermarket fans it ran around $100. With the aftermarket fans, it is said to perform as well as an H70. Doesn't say much for the H70.

I slapped a Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus at $20 on the same processor (i7-920) and brought it lower than the H60 with push/pull fans by 2C. Also, 2 fans on an H60 radiator are not quieter than one fan blowing through a Hyper 212.

I will replace my H60 at some point with something big and metallic.

The only time I'd recommend a H-anything is if you have an AMD board and a large metal CPU heatsink would block your RAM slots. I wouldn't recommend them any other time.

You made a great choice with the CPU and Hard drive. I only by WD HDDs because I've yet to have one fail on any of my home PCs.
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July 19, 2011 3:25:39 PM

That 850w psu isn't going to cut it for two of those cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $339.98 save: $30.00
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... save: $30.00 - $20.00 Mail In Rebates
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
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July 19, 2011 3:25:58 PM

ubercake said:
I like the ASUS and Gigabyte boards.

The corsair 850W is enough to power one or two 580s. Good choice.

The H60 sucks and if you don't get two aftermarket fans on it barely runs better than a stock cooler. I bought it before the price drop and with the aftermarket fans it ran around $100. With the aftermarket fans, it is said to perform as well as an H70. Doesn't say much for the H70.

I slapped a Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus at $20 on the same processor (i7-920) and brought it lower than the H60 with push/pull fans by 2C. Also, 2 fans on an H60 radiator are not quieter than one fan blowing through a Hyper 212.

I will replace my H60 at some point with something big and metallic.

The only time I'd recommend a H-anything is if you have an AMD board and a large metal CPU heatsink would block your RAM slots. I wouldn't recommend them any other time.

You made a great choice with the CPU and Hard drive. I only by WD HDDs because I've yet to have one fail on any of my home PCs.

but that wd hdd is slower, louder, and runs hotter than the spinpoint f3 1tb

the hx 850 will not run 2 580's efficiently. a 1000w psu is a better choice
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July 19, 2011 3:27:47 PM

i will most likely SLI in the future but for right now i dont see a need. :)  i will be playing on a single monitor for the near future at a resolution of 1920×1080 so hopefully a GTX 580 will be sufficient! so the samsung HDD's are better than the WD?
i was going for liquid cooling because of the low profile it has in your case as well as the increased performance. so i should replace the stock fan that the H60 comes with? i was going to add one more fan for a push/pull config anyways. also is an SSD really worth the 150 dollars?
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July 19, 2011 3:33:13 PM

---So going for the 1000W PSU because i will most likely run 580 SLI after the 600

series comes out in the fall/winter area and see if the prices drop a little bit! and from

the reviews that i read on the H series cpu coolers is that they do very well?
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July 19, 2011 3:46:16 PM

Dabigado said:
---So going for the 1000W PSU because i will most likely run 580 SLI after the 600

series comes out in the fall/winter area and see if the prices drop a little bit! and from

the reviews that i read on the H series cpu coolers is that they do very well?

The 850 will actually run more efficiently than than the 1000W. It's 80-plus silver; not just 80-plus like the 1000W. My PSU draws 780W from the wall (using an appliance load tester) when I'm gaming and my two 580s in SLI are at 100% load. At 85% efficiency, my power supply is distributing 663W (the number corresponding to the required wattage of the power supply) to my system. The 850W Corsair supply is not only more efficient, it's also more than enough to power two 580s in SLI. Just offering up information based on experience here rather than speculation:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-sli-revie...

This article shows the power consumption fairly accurately and in line with that which I've observed.

The reviews all put a halo around the H50s and H70s when they came out too. This is due to the power of business deals and advertising. On the other hand, I'm just a regular dude who's used one and can tell you there's no sense in putting any sort of liquid around your electronics if there's no advantage.
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July 19, 2011 3:49:12 PM

Is SSD worth it?

Yes, it makes your OS and SW that are installed on it launch much faster.
No, they are quite expensive and you can manage without them.

You will certainly notice the difference, so generally for high budget builds they are put in.

~64Gb models mostly for boot drives. Crucial M4 and OCZ Agility 3 ( ~$120 )
~120Gb allow you to actually install some games on it too. OCZ vertex 3, OCZ Agility 3, Crucial M4, Corsair Force 3, Intel 510 ( $190-270 )
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July 19, 2011 3:54:45 PM

^+1

I use an 80GB for my OS and drivers.

Larger capacities produce faster speeds for a given tech (ie SATA II or SATA III).
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July 19, 2011 3:58:50 PM

hmm well if i get the cheaper Antec PSU then i will prolly be able to get the 120GB SSD but if i go for the Corsair then i will have to get the 64GB. im just on the wall because they both have their advantages! :p  lol
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July 19, 2011 4:00:17 PM

also cable length in the Antec 1200 case could be a problem but will definitely NOT be with the antec PSU.
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July 19, 2011 4:10:02 PM

Dabigado said:
hmm well if i get the cheaper Antec PSU then i will prolly be able to get the 120GB SSD but if i go for the Corsair then i will have to get the 64GB. im just on the wall because they both have their advantages! :p  lol

Cable length is not an issue with the Corsair either (that's what she said).

I guess if I were going to get an SSD I'd still just get one for the OS and put my apps on a 7200 speed Western Digital HDD. You'll definitely see the speed advantage of having the OS on the SSD. The only reason drive speed is good for gaming is the load times between screens. I don't see any disadvantage running BFBC2 on my conventional HDD during multiplayer games at all. HDDs are something you can always add later, too.
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July 19, 2011 4:47:13 PM

yea you are definitely right! i think i am going to get the 64GB SSD for the OS and then put the rest on a 7200 HDD. thanks for the help guys! so here is what i have revised...



Already bought---(found on sale)

--Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129100

--MSI N580 GTX Lightning edition
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-Lightning.html

8GB Corsair Vengeance BLU RAM 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233170

Dont need--

-dvd drive
-OS
-monitor
-mouse
-keyboard

The Rest--

--MOBO-- i am on the edge for this one but the 3 i was looking at are these.

-Asus P8Z68-v PRO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] %20v%20pro

--PSU

-Corsair-HX 850W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] k=hx%20850


--CPU cooler

--Corsair H60 liquid CPU cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] sair%20H60 (i think i am just going to stick with this spu cooler for the low profile because of the vengeance RAM i already bought)

--CPU

-I5 2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115072

--HDD

-60GB Corsair Nova Series 2 CSSD-V60GB2 2.5" 60GB SATA II Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

-WD caviar Black 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136533


final build any more tips? :D 
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July 19, 2011 4:53:34 PM

Dabigado said:
yea you are definitely right! i think i am going to get the 64GB SSD for the OS and then put the rest on a 7200 HDD. thanks for the help guys! so here is what i have revised...



Already bought---(found on sale)

--Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129100

--MSI N580 GTX Lightning edition
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-Lightning.html

8GB Corsair Vengeance BLU RAM 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233170

Dont need--

-dvd drive
-OS
-monitor
-mouse
-keyboard

The Rest--

--MOBO-- i am on the edge for this one but the 3 i was looking at are these.

-Asus P8Z68-v PRO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] %20v%20pro

--PSU

-Corsair-HX 850W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] k=hx%20850


--CPU cooler

--Corsair H60 liquid CPU cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] sair%20H60 (i think i am just going to stick with this spu cooler for the low profile because of the vengeance RAM i already bought)

--CPU

-I5 2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115072

--HDD

-60GB Corsair Nova Series 2 CSSD-V60GB2 2.5" 60GB SATA II Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

-WD caviar Black 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136533


final build any more tips? :D 

Do you have access to "google search" ? If so, google:" gtx 580 SLI power requirements "

You keep posting that 850w psu for some odd reason. If you plan on going with dual 570's then ya, that's the ticket, but not for dual 580's.
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July 19, 2011 5:01:56 PM

you know what, you're right lol might as well just go with the 1000W! plus that PSU is made for my case so i know i will be able to use the cable management of my antec 1200. i really like that deal that you posted but i was wondering should i get it now? i wont be able to actually put it together until after the 1st of sept so the 30 day warranty from newegg will be up, do the company warranties cover it if something goes wrong?
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July 19, 2011 5:24:19 PM

if you will sli invest in this psu- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the samsung is better than the wd. it is faster, quieter, and runs cooler. the samsung is very reliable too.

ssd: 60-64gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
both are faster than the nova you posted

mobo- get this mobo that asus isnt worth the extra $- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or this one since you should upgrade that psu- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... both are great mobo's





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July 19, 2011 5:25:49 PM

generally, yes, but it will almost certain take longer/be more of a pain. the cp-1000 seems like the smart choice, its a great psu at a great price.

hard to choose a mobo right now as there are so many good ones. most people with money to spare end up choosing the most expensive one figuring it will be the best.

i also agree that all the above are nice mobos, making the msi the easy choice when you consider that initially lower price, rebate, and combo savings bring it down to $135:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

not a huge fan of the 60gb ssd idea, but the m4 seems to be the only new/fast drive without massive problems.
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July 19, 2011 6:50:16 PM

Why_Me said:
Do you have access to "google search" ? If so, google:" gtx 580 SLI power requirements "

You keep posting that 850w psu for some odd reason. If you plan on going with dual 570's then ya, that's the ticket, but not for dual 580's.

I've listed the power requirements both from review sites as well as from my own experience. 2 580s in SLI at 100% load don't even require 700W!?

Why_Me - Do you have any experience with these things? Have you read the review sites?


Also, there's a reason the corsair supply costs more than a 1000W supply. It is more efficient. It can also handle the load of 2 580s in SLI; contrary to what people who make their best guesses have to say.
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July 19, 2011 7:08:31 PM

ubercake said:
I've listed the power requirements both from review sites as well as from my own experience. 2 580s in SLI at 100% load don't even require 700W!?

Why_Me - Do you have any experience with these things? Have you read the review sites?


Also, there's a reason the corsair supply costs more than a 1000W supply. It is more efficient. It can also handle the load of 2 580s in SLI; contrary to what people who make their best guesses have to say.

An efficient psu only gets you so far. I don't run dual 580's...Iv'e never seen the game the requires them, but a kid in our clan does with a 1336 build, and he pulls over 700w time and again.

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July 19, 2011 7:10:29 PM

ubercake said:
I've listed the power requirements both from review sites as well as from my own experience. 2 580s in SLI at 100% load don't even require 700W!?

Why_Me - Do you have any experience with these things? Have you read the review sites?


Also, there's a reason the corsair supply costs more than a 1000W supply. It is more efficient. It can also handle the load of 2 580s in SLI; contrary to what people who make their best guesses have to say.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4012/nvidias-geforce-gtx-... lets say you give 50w extra for overclocking the cards you get a 2500k and overclock it to 4.5 (modest). you also have ram, ssd, an hdd, fans to power.....
at best you are looking at around 850w

the hx is silver rated only up to a certain point. efficiency for a psu can be drawn as a bell curve. sure it can be pushed up to 1000w but it would not do it very efficiently. a cp 1000w would probably be as good as the hx for 2 580's but the hx would be better for 2 570's because can it can be very efficient at lower wattages
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July 19, 2011 7:15:26 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4012/nvidias-geforce-gtx-... lets say you give 50w extra for overclocking the cards you get a 2500k and overclock it to 4.5 (modest). you also have ram, ssd, an hdd, fans to power.....
at best you are looking at around 850w

the hx is silver rated only up to a certain point. efficiency for a psu can be drawn as a bell curve. sure it can be pushed up to 1000w but it would not do it very efficiently. a cp 1000w would probably be as good as the hx for 2 580's but the hx would be better for 2 570's because can it can be very efficient at lower wattages

That's why the norm on this board is:

750w psu = dual 560's and dual 6950's

850w psu = dual 570's

950w psu = dual 580's although that Antec HG 900w, and PC Power and Cooling 910w are tough psu's.
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July 19, 2011 7:21:04 PM

No arguing with the experts.
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July 19, 2011 8:56:38 PM

well i bought the MSI n580 GTX lightning so i will be OC'ing the GPU and the CPU

possibly the RAM but i am not sure yet so i think i will go with a thousand watt PSU

and i can deal without an SSD for now. I can always get one of those later! i WILL

be SLI'ing another 580 prolly 6 to 8 months down the road. i was just thinking of

going with the Antec PSU because it was made for the case and most of the

reviews said it is high quality with low sound and sufficient cooling! but i have a

few weeks to research a little bit more. one of the reasons i purchased a GTX 580

is because i am an avid battlefield fan :)  lol and i was waiting for them to release

the info on the machines they were using for the gameplay footage at E3 and they

were using a single GTX 580 at the show. Noone NEEDS to SLI 2 580's but if you

can why not? i am just going to see how most games run on a single for a while

before i make that leap though.
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