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July 19, 2011 11:22:58 AM

Hi, I am looking to build a PC exclusively for FSX. I don't play any other games, so I'm having trouble deciding on a graphics card since I've heard the game is more about CPU.

Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.1) LGA 1155 Intel P67

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB

Hard Drives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2X Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
(Primary for OS, Secondary for FSX)

Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W

Cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR CWCH50-1 High Performance CPU Cooler

Blu-ray Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LITE-ON Black 4X BD-ROM

Not required: Case, Keyboard/Mouse, Monitor, Speakers

I was hoping to keep the build below $1200 (with rebates). I probably don't need the GTX580 and could go with a cheaper Nvidia card, as long as it runs cool. I'm assuming I wont see any FPS difference with a 1000rpm drive or SSD, so have opted for the Caviar Black. Maybe 650W won't be enough, but I'll let you guys make the calls.

Thanks very much.

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July 19, 2011 12:13:52 PM

You could consider i7 2600k instead, flight simulator X might actually use the hyper threading. But the i5 2500k is not bad.

Maybe consider 2x4GB of ram since it's cheap, otherwise the same specs.

For video card. I think you would do ok with a radeon 6950 or 6970. 6950 would be about half the price of the GTX580 and you can run eyefinity with it, in case you plan on running 3 monitors with your flight simulator X.

With the money you save you could do 3 things:
1) bump up your mobo to the "pro" version Asus P8P67 Pro. ( +$30 or so )
2) Switch the CPU to i7 2600k ( +$100 )
3) update the PSU to 850W so that you can easily crossfire the 6950 if more graphics performance is needed. ( +$70 )


Possibly check for H60 as it has better sound profile than the H50.

July 19, 2011 1:31:52 PM

rvilkman said:
You could consider i7 2600k instead, flight simulator X might actually use the hyper threading. But the i5 2500k is not bad.

Maybe consider 2x4GB of ram since it's cheap, otherwise the same specs.

For video card. I think you would do ok with a radeon 6950 or 6970. 6950 would be about half the price of the GTX580 and you can run eyefinity with it, in case you plan on running 3 monitors with your flight simulator X.

With the money you save you could do 3 things:
1) bump up your mobo to the "pro" version Asus P8P67 Pro. ( +$30 or so )
2) Switch the CPU to i7 2600k ( +$100 )
3) update the PSU to 850W so that you can easily crossfire the 6950 if more graphics performance is needed. ( +$70 )


Possibly check for H60 as it has better sound profile than the H50.


Thanks, that sounds like a good idea. I will get the 2600k and overclock it to the max with the H60.
The only thing is.. I would prefer to get an nvidia card. I need to run the simulation at 1920x1080 on max settings, but I don't want to waste money on a GTX580 when FSX will not take advantage of it. Could you recommend a card that would suit. Maybe the GTX460 1gb?
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July 19, 2011 1:49:07 PM

For that resolution GTX560Ti ~ 6950 or GTX570 ~ 6970.

July 19, 2011 2:26:13 PM

Okay thank you.
July 19, 2011 2:55:10 PM

Sean,

If you are going with a closed loop cooler I suggest that you look at the Antec H20 620. It out performs the Corsair H60 both in sound and cooling and is easily modded to add a second fan in a push-pull config.

http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?cat=articles&id=404&p...

Re. your HDD, I'd suggest that you go with this 1.5 TB alternative: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It is cheaper than two 500 GB drives, uses half the power, has double the RAM cache, and gives you 50% more storage. Plus you save a SATA port for another device later on.

You will do fine with a GTX 570, but if FXS is all you'll do I'd suggest that even the GTX 570 is overkill. You can sove some on a GTX 560 ti, or even a GTX 480 (which is the equivalent of the GTX 570).
July 19, 2011 4:02:37 PM

chesteracorgi said:
Sean,

If you are going with a closed loop cooler I suggest that you look at the Antec H20 620. It out performs the Corsair H60 both in sound and cooling and is easily modded to add a second fan in a push-pull config.

http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?cat=articles&id=404&p...

Re. your HDD, I'd suggest that you go with this 1.5 TB alternative: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It is cheaper than two 500 GB drives, uses half the power, has double the RAM cache, and gives you 50% more storage. Plus you save a SATA port for another device later on.

You will do fine with a GTX 570, but if FXS is all you'll do I'd suggest that even the GTX 570 is overkill. You can sove some on a GTX 560 ti, or even a GTX 480 (which is the equivalent of the GTX 570).


Thanks for the help. I will go with the Antec H20, I should have spotted that one.

I was only going to put in 2 HDDs because Microsoft recommends FSX being installed on a drive by its self, maybe because of OS fragmentation. Although, I think if I partition the 1.5 TB drive and put FSX on the first partition, it would be equal in performance. What do you think?

Yeah I had a feeling it was overkill. I read reviews on the GTX480 and most people complained about temperatures. Maybe those issues are fixed by now though. Well since it's only for FSX the 560 ti might be the way to go
July 19, 2011 4:06:12 PM

Although I don't play FSX, Iv'e heard it's cpu dependant and I would think the 2600K would be the way to go. Here's a few options to look at. And with RAM being as cheap as it is... 8 gigs > 4 gigs. That PC Power & Cooling psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic as is that Corsair you have chosen.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... save: $20.00
ASUS P8P67 (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
ASUS ENGTX570 DCII/2DIS/1280MD5 GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $379.98 save: $30.00 $20.00 Mail In Rebates
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II PPCMK2S650 650W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99 FREE SHIPPING
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory with heatshield Model PSD38G1600KH

or you can go this route....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $329.99
Palit NE5X570SF10DA GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) Sonic 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
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