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Anonymous
March 18, 2005 1:06:21 PM

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Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my server
doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup

On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to the
GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the edge,
rather than filling the screen).

Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?
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Anonymous
March 18, 2005 1:06:22 PM

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The GBA games are programmed based on a 'hard' screen size, not a virtual
screen, AFAIK. This means they can count on the chest appearing at pixel
coordinates 120,46 or whatever ...

This also means that unless Nintendo wanted to 'break' most games, they were
much better off leaving well enough alone, and losing the small amount of
screen.

Mike

"Stimp" <ren@spumco.com> wrote in message
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> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my server
> doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>
> On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to the
> GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the edge,
> rather than filling the screen).
>
> Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?
> --
>
> "I hear ma train a comin'
> ... hear freedom comin"
Anonymous
March 18, 2005 2:56:28 PM

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On 18 Mar 2005 10:06:21 GMT, Stimp <ren@spumco.com> wrote:

>Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my server
>doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>
>On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to the
>GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the edge,
>rather than filling the screen).
>
>Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?

no.
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Anonymous
March 18, 2005 3:51:17 PM

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"Michael Anderson" <txa1265@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The GBA games are programmed based on a 'hard' screen size, not a virtual
> screen, AFAIK. This means they can count on the chest appearing at pixel
> coordinates 120,46 or whatever ...
>
> This also means that unless Nintendo wanted to 'break' most games, they
> were much better off leaving well enough alone, and losing the small
> amount of screen.

How would you break the games?

Simply maintaining an offscreen bitmap and scaling that to fit the screen in
the same manner that the GBA did for GB/GBC games would have absolutely no
effect on gameplay, save for the graphics looking out of proportion...

Mind you, if the scaling is the same ratio in vertical as horizontal, then
the proportion would be fine, and you'd just have jagged pixel distortion to
worry about.

Wonder if the DS could scale the screen in a more advanced manner such as
bilinear filtering?

D.
Anonymous
March 18, 2005 4:04:26 PM

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Stimp wrote:
> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my server
> doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>
> On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to the
> GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the edge,
> rather than filling the screen).
>
> Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?

No.
Anonymous
March 18, 2005 8:03:35 PM

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Stimp wrote:
> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my
> server doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>
> On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to
> the GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the
> edge, rather than filling the screen).
>
> Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?

It's not actually resizing the image. The DS screens have more pixels on,
so the GBA game is just using the same number of pixels as it would do on
the GBA screen.

There's no way to resize the image - it would look dire anyway.

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Anonymous
March 18, 2005 9:06:40 PM

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Stimp wrote:
> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my
> server doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>
> On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to
> the GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the
> edge, rather than filling the screen).
>
> Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?

Basically, no.

I found the GBA game area to be a little small to begin with, but I just got
used to it. Nintendo could've added a resize option using the X and Y buttons if
they wanted, but with the DS screen resolution being only marginally higher than
the GBA's, the graphics would've looked horribly distorted.

Paul.
Anonymous
March 19, 2005 11:53:53 AM

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 Paul Evans <uknorthernerSPAMMEANDDIEYOULOW
> Stimp wrote:
>> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my
>> server doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>>
>> On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to
>> the GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the
>> edge, rather than filling the screen).
>>
>> Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?
>
> Basically, no.
>
> I found the GBA game area to be a little small to begin with, but I just got
> used to it. Nintendo could've added a resize option using the X and Y buttons if
> they wanted, but with the DS screen resolution being only marginally higher than
> the GBA's, the graphics would've looked horribly distorted.

I don't think the graphics would look that bad at all... I've played a
few GBA roms on my PC using an emulator and the games look great at
'double size' (i.e. 200% of original screen size)

It's unfortunate that we can't enlarge the GBA mode screen since I've
always found the original GBA screen dimensions to be too small (I have
to use a magnifying glass attachment to avoid eye-strain), whereas the
slighy (but signifigantly-so) larger DS screen gives me no eyestrain
problems whatsoever.

Wonder will they develop a magnifying glass attachment for the DS too?
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Anonymous
March 19, 2005 6:20:50 PM

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Stimp wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 Paul Evans <uknorthernerSPAMMEANDDIEYOULOW
>> Stimp wrote:
>>> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my
>>> server doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>>>
>>> On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to
>>> the GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around
>>> the edge, rather than filling the screen).
>>>
>>> Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?
>>
>> Basically, no.
>>
>> I found the GBA game area to be a little small to begin with, but I
>> just got used to it. Nintendo could've added a resize option using
>> the X and Y buttons if they wanted, but with the DS screen
>> resolution being only marginally higher than the GBA's, the graphics
>> would've looked horribly distorted.
>
> I don't think the graphics would look that bad at all... I've played a
> few GBA roms on my PC using an emulator and the games look great at
> 'double size' (i.e. 200% of original screen size)
>
The DS screens aren't double size however, so rather than each GBA pixel
occupying four, they would randomly occupy between 1, 2 and 4 pixels on the
slightly higher res DS screen leading to distortion. Make a screengrab of a GBA
game in whatever emulator you use, and resize it in PSP or photoshop to fit the
new dimensions to see what I mean.

The distortion could be worked around with anti-aliasing but this would just
lead to an out-of-focus image and blurring.

> It's unfortunate that we can't enlarge the GBA mode screen since I've
> always found the original GBA screen dimensions to be too small (I
> have to use a magnifying glass attachment to avoid eye-strain),
> whereas the slighy (but signifigantly-so) larger DS screen gives me
> no eyestrain problems whatsoever.
>
> Wonder will they develop a magnifying glass attachment for the DS too?

Probably, although I imagine it would be for the top screen only, which for
playing GBA games on would be perfect.

Paul.
Anonymous
March 20, 2005 3:10:04 PM

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Stimp <ren@spumco.com> wrote:

> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my server
> doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>
> On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to the
> GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the edge,
> rather than filling the screen).
>
> Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?

No.


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Anonymous
March 27, 2005 6:25:37 PM

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Stimp wrote:
> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my server
> doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup

It's ".handheld" not ".handhelds", maybe you're looking for the wrong
group name?

> On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to the
> GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the edge,
> rather than filling the screen).
>
> Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?

I haven't found a way to do it :( 
Anonymous
March 27, 2005 11:51:32 PM

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 Fry <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Stimp wrote:
>> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my server
>> doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>
> It's ".handheld" not ".handhelds", maybe you're looking for the wrong
> group name?

nah.. server seems to block it *shrug*
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Anonymous
April 14, 2005 1:18:48 PM

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"Stimp" <ren@spumco.com> wrote in message
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> Apologies in advance for the DS posting in this newsgroup, but my server
> doesn't let me access the .handhelds newsgroup
>
> On the DS, when you open a GBA game, the screen seems to 'resize' to the
> GBA original screen size (i.e. it shows a black border around the edge,
> rather than filling the screen).
>
> Is there any way to open the GBA game in 'full screen' mode?
> --
>
> "I hear ma train a comin'
> ... hear freedom comin"

Please read Tim 'Oh Lord of NGs' post below, u are not allowed to post about
DS games here apparently...lol:)  I aint got handheld either and requesting
it from blueyonder is a joke which he misinterpreted once again...lol:) 

skidz

skidz
Anonymous
April 14, 2005 3:10:05 PM

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skidz wrote:
> Please read Tim 'Oh Lord of NGs' post below, u are not allowed to post about
> DS games here apparently...lol:)  I aint got handheld either and requesting
> it from blueyonder is a joke which he misinterpreted once again...lol:) 

This is Usenet. "Below" and "allowed" are sort of meaningless, for
reasons that may become clear to you eventually.

Starting off in the group, "news.announce.newusers" would have been a
good thing.
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