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!! HELP !! Radeon HD 6570 1GB vs. GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 2GB

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May 11, 2011 6:51:06 PM

Greetings to all.

I see the stream processors on the GT 430 are 98 and the Radeon HD 6750 are 480.
Does Radeon use a different calculating system?

PROS: the cards I am looking at are all the same price, $79
CONS ?: Radeon's are 1GB and the Fermi is 2GB.

SIDE NOTES: I just want to know which chipset is better for my needs.
MY NEEDS:
** I want is the best chipset for performance in gaming for myself.
** My mom wants performance in 3D rendering. She uses Bryce 3D v7 and other DAZ products like Poser 8.

The MSI R6570-MD1GD3/LP Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP does not support Crossfire X but i will not need it due to a single PCIe slot. Parts/Labor = 3/2

The A S U S EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP) Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP is 3/3 Parts/Labor

The Palit NEAT4300HD41-1081F GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP is the 2GB card and offers a host of stuff that sounds good like; Blu-Ray 3D support, NVIDIA CUDA technology with CUDA C/C++, DirectCompute 5.0 and OpenCL support, NVIDIA PhysX technology, Hardware Video Decode Acceleration, TrueHD and DTS-HD Audio Bitstreaming Support. Parts/Labor = 2/2.

While reading another thread I ran across this VIDEO CARD:
Is there a gain on the DDR5/512 over the DDR3/1GB or 2GB?
May 11, 2011 10:25:50 PM

geez nothing after 2 hours or more? WOW! i am suprised.
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a c 153 U Graphics card
May 11, 2011 10:30:32 PM

Do you mind if there are rebates worked in? You can get a much better cards for both 3D rendering and gaming performance for 80 dollars after rebate.

I'll post links at the bottom of this thread.

Out of the ones you posted however, you do not need a 2GB card, none of the cards in that price range can even utilize that much memory, 1GB is fine.

A GT 430 is about equal to a 5570 and a 6570 is quite a bit better so out of the choices YOU have there, the 6570 is the best. It doesn't matter which you get. I don't know what you mean by "parts/labor" what so ever. Either way, I like the cooler on the MSI one, so I'd get that.

Now, for better cards in that price range. (But you have to deal with rebates.)

5750 for 80 dollar after rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GTS 450 for 90 dollars after rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b U Graphics card
May 11, 2011 11:28:46 PM

Those are both very low end cards.

Low end cards use ddr3 while faster more expensive cards all use ddr5.
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May 12, 2011 2:32:31 AM

Yeah, I am not much for rebates, but do consider them. However I can only receive 1 rebate per household/address per GPU, so no dupes LOL

I am trying to stay within a range (budgeting 2 machines) and am looking for about a $160 target range for 2 cards.

First lemme ask which is faster:
GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
OR
Radeon HD 5670 512 1GB GDDR5

MOM's possibilities: (light - medium graphic rendering scope - keep in mind right now she is using a 128MB AGP DDR interface card!)
1] GeForce GT 240 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 HDCP
2] Radeon HD 5670 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 HDCP

MY possibilities: (games & video editing - i.e.;TDU2, NFS HP 2011, Homefront | also I will be running Phenom II 555 Black Edition L3 - hopefully the unlock Gods are with me on this one to receive a Phenom II X4 B55 L3). I am not too interested in SLI @ the moment, the board I am getting only has 1xPCIe-x16.

1] GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 HDCP
2] GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 HDCP Ready SLI
3] GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) GC Version 1GB 128-bit DDR5 HDCP SLI <- this DDR5 is the same as GDDR5?
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a c 173 U Graphics card
May 12, 2011 3:41:23 AM

1 - forget looking at strem processors, clock speed, ram size/speed. The only real way to tell a video cards performance is by looking at reviews.

2 - 2gb ram on a video card is useless with a slow GPU like a gt430 and is only useful when you go above 1900x1200 resolution

3 - you should be able to find an ati 5770 for a similar price to a gts450 and its much faster.
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May 12, 2011 4:33:48 AM

Tell me what you guys think:

This what mom has now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
on a P4 2.8Ghz 1GB RAM and she is just now wanting to upgrade because of lag 'n stuff.

I am upping her to a Phenom II X2 555 Black, 4GB RAM
on this board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and I think I will go with this card for her:
Zotac GeForce: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am also going w/ the 555 Black same board and want to play, as I said; Homefront, TDU2, NFS HP 2011 etc.
I think I will go with this card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What do you guys think? will this work out for us both?
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May 22, 2011 5:39:47 AM

I found the best way to look for GPU's.
1] get a budget range in mind for what you want/can to spend.
2] go to youtube.com and enter the video card model and core number like yours (i.e. x2 OR dual core or x4 OR quad core etc.) and then include a game title or simply put "gameplay"

LIKE THIS:

gtx 480 amd x2 crysis 2
or
gtx 550 i5 gameplay

and you're sure to find some better results than crap shooting in the dark with numbers like iam2thecrowe said above.
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a c 153 U Graphics card
May 22, 2011 5:59:31 AM

Or you can just use TechpowerUp Benchmarks which is the best way....
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May 22, 2011 7:46:18 AM

I am reading greek - what is TechpowerUp Benchmarks? a program? is here a link (for future visitors also that are short on the "know").
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a c 173 U Graphics card
May 22, 2011 9:21:53 AM

Majestic One said:
I found the best way to look for GPU's.
1] get a budget range in mind for what you want/can to spend.
2] go to youtube.com and enter the video card model and core number like yours (i.e. x2 OR dual core or x4 OR quad core etc.) and then include a game title or simply put "gameplay"

LIKE THIS:

gtx 480 amd x2 crysis 2
or
gtx 550 i5 gameplay

and you're sure to find some better results than crap shooting in the dark with numbers like iam2thecrowe said above.

crapshooting? are you sofa king we tar dead, that you cant understand how to read a review? you know, forget helping you, just get your 6750 because it has more stream processors!
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May 22, 2011 9:33:32 AM

GEEZ - I think you misunderstood, D00D!!!

I read what I wrote... and yeah, i guess it could be taken in a bad light... if that's how you see and take things.

I was PRAISING you for pointing out the FACT that all that crap (like you mentioned)

Quote:
1 - forget looking at strem processors, clock speed, ram size/speed. The only real way to tell a video cards performance is by looking at reviews.

2 - 2gb ram on a video card is useless with a slow GPU like a gt430 and is only useful when you go above 1900x1200 resolution


is a complete WASTE of time.

as a matter of fact points 1 & 2 you made have actually became a steady diet of mine when shopping (well I look at the streams and RAM a little...

but THE one thing that you gave to me was number 1:

Quote:
READ THE REVIEWS!!!!!


D00D, you are a GODsend for simply pointing out this one surefire simple step...
and you know what? you will NEVER go wrong with that.

With your advice, I have made MANY MANY MANY several decisions AGAINST products on Newegg, just because I read the reviews, man.

thanks, AGAIN (LOL). :hello: 
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a c 273 U Graphics card
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