I7 and Dominator CL9 RAM

[untamedghost]

Hello,

I've got an i7 @ 4.1GHz with 8GB (4x2) Dominator DDR in a P8P67 Pro mobo.

When it comes to certain games, one game in particular (Mortal Online (all my settings are on low), I get (almost constant) small freezes. My FPS is sky high, but then the FPS drops down to ~1 and freezes for 1-2 seconds, and then jumps back to over 150. My GFX is an ASUS GTX570. I don't believe it to be my GFX, because I suppose the FPS should be constantly low or gfx errors/colours on my screen.

Anyhow, I'm thinking maybe my RAM settings are wrong in BIOS. I've set the voltage and timings to the recommended values (1.65v and 9-9-9-24). But what should my "command rate" be at: 1t or 2t? Does this make any difference? This PC is for games 89% of the time.

Are there any other BIOS settings or settings otherwise, that I could try to help the freezes?

My system is also 100% up2date with the newest drivers.

Thanks in advance,
A. Thomsen

 

[untamedghost]

hmm, somehow I tripple posted, I'm sorry about that. plz remove 2 of the threads! :|

 

[mcnumpty23]

1.65v and 9-9-9-24 should be fine

they may even go lower-my patriots are at 7-7-7-21 and 1t command rate

but as you are having problems you need to fix that before trying tighter timings

try setting 2t command rate

and if your antivirus has a gaming mode turn it on

 

[bumnut53]

Do you get the freezes if you set the CPU to stock speeds?

 

[davcon]

Some online games compensate gameplay for users with lesser hardware.

 

[gilpin]

Hello,

I've set the voltage and timings to the recommended values (1.65v and 9-9-9-24). But what should my "command rate" be at: 1t or 2t? Does this make any difference?]

I have Corsair memory and it states the command rate on the label. 1T is faster and 2T is meant to be more stable, but I have a stable mem oc using 1T

 

[davcon]

Well anyone running ram in 4 slots is going to default to 2t.
The only way to get around that is with alot of tinkering in bios .
Your ram kit might not be able to even pull it off.
If you only use 2 slots your ram will run 1t.
Nature of the beast.
I doubt your ram is the issue.

 

[geofelt]

1) I really doubt that ram is the cause of your "freezes"
First of all, nehalem cpu's are largely insensitive to ram speeds or timings. It might make a 1-2% difference, but that is all.
You have sufficient ram for any game.
You could check it out with memtest86+ to see if possibly you are getting intermittent errors.

2) Where else could the problem lie?
Do you have any malware , viruses, or the like?
Are you running any started taske you can't recognize?
Is an antivirus kicking in?(Microsoft security essentials is very low impact)

3) Check the hard drive SMART data. Are you possibly going through hard drive error recovery?

 

[mcnumpty23]

doesnt matter how many slots you are using--i am using 1600mhz 6 x 2gb at 7-7-7-21 1t command rate at 4.2ghz on i7-920

what cpu voltage are you using for your overclock? and what qpi/vtt voltage?

i am also using the asus direct cu gtx 570--try running unigine benchmark to check the graphics card--is it only online games that have a problem?

 

[untamedghost]

doesnt matter how many slots you are using--i am using 1600mhz 6 x 2gb at 7-7-7-21 1t command rate at 4.2ghz on i7-920

what cpu voltage are you using for your overclock? and what qpi/vtt voltage?

i am also using the asus direct cu gtx 570--try running unigine benchmark to check the graphics card--is it only online games that have a problem?

Sorry guys for the late replies, I'll reply each seperatly.

My Unigine benchmark is:

Heaven Benchmark v2.5 Basic



FPS: 49.1
Scores:1236
Min FPS:12.2
Max FPS:117.3


Hardware
Binary: Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1600 Release Mar 1 2011
Operating system: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1) 64bit
CPU model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU flags: 3572MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT
GPU model: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 8.17.12.8538 1280Mb

Settings
Render: direct3d11
Mode: 1680x1050 fullscreen
Shaders: high
Textures: high
Filter: trilinear
Anisotropy: 4x
Occlusion: enabled
Refraction: enabled
Volumetric: enabled
Tessellation: normal

Are the results good?

 

[untamedghost]

1) I really doubt that ram is the cause of your "freezes"
First of all, nehalem cpu's are largely insensitive to ram speeds or timings. It might make a 1-2% difference, but that is all.
You have sufficient ram for any game.
You could check it out with memtest86+ to see if possibly you are getting intermittent errors.

2) Where else could the problem lie?
Do you have any malware , viruses, or the like?
Are you running any started taske you can't recognize?
Is an antivirus kicking in?(Microsoft security essentials is very low impact)

3) Check the hard drive SMART data. Are you possibly going through hard drive error recovery?

I've got no virsus or malware. I'm using MS Security Essentials.

My SMART data isnt collecting anything suspicious.

 

[untamedghost]

Do you get the freezes if you set the CPU to stock speeds?

Yes, I do get freezes with CPU stock speeds.

I only get these freezes in Mortal Online. I sometimes get FPS lag in Dawn of war 2 (when a lot is happening on screen), but I'm playing on Ultra settings.

 

[gnomio]

Is the game cpu intensive? The data is already in your cpu cache so dont see how ram can be the culprit with graphics. What happens when you set all your settings to high?

 

[untamedghost]

My ASUS GTX570 came with vcore set to 1v, I've changed it to 1.065 using MSI afterburner, is that advisable?

 

[untamedghost]

Is the game cpu intensive? The data is already in your cpu cache so dont see how ram can be the culprit with graphics. What happens when you set all your settings to high?

Nothing much, skill high FPS but freezes. I'm guessing its MO, but the tricky things is that not all of my guildies have this problem. Some are not experiencing any freeze...

 

[gnomio]

Is this happening online?

 

[mcnumpty23]

My ASUS GTX570 came with vcore set to 1v, I've changed it to 1.065 using MSI afterburner, is that advisable?

my asus direct cu gtx570 is at 1.088v -849mhz core and 4400mhz memory--with no problems at all

havent run unigine for a while but will download and run it to give you a comparision

 

[gnomio]

did you check the option smooth frame rates?

 

[mcnumpty23]

dont know why it wont let me edit but heres my results



FPS:66.7

Scores1681

Min FPS:25.1

Max FPS:141.1
:
Hardware


Binary:Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1500 Release May 21 2010

Operating system:Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1) 64bit

CPU model:Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz

CPU flags:3600MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT

GPU model:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 8.17.12.8538 1280Mb


Settings

Render:direct3d11

Mode:1680x1050 fullscreen


Shaders:high

Textures:high

Filter:trilinear

Anisotropy:4x


Occlusion:enabled

Refraction:enabled


Volumetric:enabled

Replication:disabled

Tessellation:normal

 

[gnomio]

press the quick edit middle option when you edit

Go in the options and check the smooth frame rate option
Set a value i suggest setting it 62 first

 

[mcnumpty23]

press the quick edit middle option when you edit

Go in the options and check the smooth frame rate option
Set a value i suggest setting it 62 first

thanks--whys there edit and quick edit? is there a difference then?

 

[gnomio]

dunno
Happened to me as well. Edit added alot then submit not allowed press back all the stuff I added was gone lol
here is more on your issue and a explanation why it happens
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/58025-smooth-framerate-option-must-read.html

 

[untamedghost]

dunno
Happened to me as well. Edit added alot then submit not allowed press back all the stuff I added was gone lol
here is more on your issue and a explanation why it happens
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/58025-smooth-framerate-option-must-read.html

I've tried this, but without any luck. I've now tried disabling CPU C3 and C6 report in bios, hopefully this will work.

 

[gnomio]

have you tried tweaking the drivers with Nhancer?

 

[untamedghost]

gnomio, I didn't have a problem on my old system with a q6600 and a GTX295. But now suspecting my harddrives + mobo (I've read about some errors with the sata controllers):
http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=76380
http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=75305


I'll be honest, all my 6 drives (2 as raid0 (system+isntalls), 2 as raid1 (critical data) and rest as normal ones (downloads etc.) have been put in random slots, I dunno what I've been thinking. Anyhows, I'm getting an intel SSD 510 next week. I'm going to put this one as system+mortal online, then the rest of the hhds for installs, data, downloads etc.

What do you guys suggest I should plug in my SSD - the intel sata 6 or marvell sata 6?