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July 21, 2011 2:47:34 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Sometime in August.

Budget Range: $750-$1350

System Usage: Data crunching

Parts Not Required: Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com

Country of Origin: Canada

Parts Preferences: I would prefer Intel.

Overclocking: It's possible that I would but I don't know if it would help. For example: Let's suppose i have an algorithm looking for a solution for a really complex equation, and then doing that ten million times. will overclocking help in that situation? I was thinking just maybe adding more cores in that situation instead of overclocking.

OS: Linux

Sli or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: Eventually I want to hook it up to a big flat screen tv, so pretty high i guess.


Additonal Comments: At the moment, what i would like is to have is a data crunching server that i can use for work. i dont have a lot of money, so what i want is something that i will be able to upgrade over time (adding a second cpu, more ram, ssd, etc.) as i get more money and as my computational needs increase. I would be willing to invest in a good case, motherboard and cpu but hold off on the video card, ram, and memory until i can afford it and/or really need it.

Basically I would use this to run all my analyses remotely from school, work or whatever. So mainly data crunching and things of that nature. nothing graphical (at the moment).

But what's really important is that in the future i can add new parts as i need them. So if all of a sudden I have so start opening lots of big fmri files simultaneously, i can just go out and buy more ram.

More about : rig data server

July 21, 2011 9:40:23 PM

This will crunch your huckleberry.

The ram is costly, but I know it works with this MB. MB are really finicky about RAM. You might fine some compatable for less$ if you ask around.

Fractal Design Define XL Black ATX Full Tower Silent PC Computer Case (out of stock at newegg right now) you can pick any case that supports E-ATX MB's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$139.99

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16827135204
$19.99

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16822152185
$64.99

SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16817256071
$69.99

SUPERMICRO MBD-X8DTi-F-O Dual LGA 1366 Intel 5520 Extended ATX Dual Intel Xeon 5500 and 5600 Series Server Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16813182182
$399.99

Patriot Signature 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) ECC Registered Server Memory Model PS312G13ER3K-E
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16820220423
$289.99

Intel Xeon E5620 Westmere 2.4GHz LGA 1366 80W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80614E5620
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16819117234
$389.99
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$1,384.93



Additions for thoughts:

you could go with un-registered unbuffered memory and save $200
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 998770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Noctua NH-U12DX 1366 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
Item #: N82E16835608012
$75.99

Some sort of GPU the built in video is terrible
HD5570 $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 23, 2011 8:24:50 PM

Thanks, anyone else have some ideas?
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July 23, 2011 10:05:49 PM

It meets all of your requirements. You can buy a different Xeon 5000 series processor or a less expensive motherboard like the ASUS Z8NA-D6C if 48 GB of RDIMM will be enough in the future: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

There's no way to build a system with a dual socket Xeon (or Opteron) motherboard for $750. FYI, you can't overclock server motherboards.

An alternative would be to build a high performance desktop, but you won't be able to add a second CPU. However you could replace the motherboard and CPU when you really need more processing power. Installing more than 12 GB or 16 GB of memory in a desktop system can become very expensive.
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July 24, 2011 5:49:19 AM

GhislainG said:
It meets all of your requirements. You can buy a different Xeon 5000 series processor or a less expensive motherboard like the ASUS Z8NA-D6C if 48 GB of RDIMM will be enough in the future: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

There's no way to build a system with a dual socket Xeon (or Opteron) motherboard for $750. FYI, you can't overclock server motherboards.

An alternative would be to build a high performance desktop, but you won't be able to add a second CPU. However you could replace the motherboard and CPU when you really need more processing power. Installing more than 12 GB or 16 GB of memory in a desktop system can become very expensive.


Gotcha, thanks for the info.
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July 24, 2011 7:02:56 AM

this Reg ECC memory will also work in both MB. it will save you a $100
PNY 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR3 1333 Server Memory Model MD12288KD3-1333-ECC
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-PC3-10666-240-Pin-Desktop-MD1...

if you go with the ASUS Z8NA-D6C you can also go with a regular Tower case that holds a standard ATX MB you and it will save you another $75. the MB is quite crowded because of its size and doesn't offer the extra memory slots, but it does work as long as you get one that has the latest bios already flashed. Performance wise I wouldn't drop down to a lower xeon, as you loose too much - clock rate and cache.
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July 24, 2011 7:23:54 PM

I used Canadian links this time :) 

Using the ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 ATX Motherboard/ATX mid tower Case and the PNY Ram

RAM
PNY MD12288KD3-1333-ECC 12 GB (3x4 GB) PC3-10666 1333 MHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM Desktop DIMM ECC Triple Channel Kit
http://www.amazon.ca/PNY-MD12288KD3-1333-ECC-PC3-10666-...
198.08

PSU
SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Item #: N82E16817256071
$67.49

MB
ASUS Z8NA-D6C Dual LGA 1366 Intel 5500 ATX Dual Intel Xeon 5500 and 5600 Series Server/Workstation Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Item #: N82E16813131378
-$10.00 Instant
$269.99
$259.99

CPU
Intel Xeon E5620 Westmere 2.4GHz LGA 1366 80W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80614E5620
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Item #: N82E16819117234
$399.99

DVD/CD
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
Item #: N82E16827135204
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$16.99

CASE
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Item #: N82E16811119233
$59.99

HDD
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
Item #: N82E16822152185
$74.99
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$1077.52 CAD w/o shipping

going with the better SUPERMICRO MB and the Case that fits adds $257.91

CASE
Fractal Design Define XL Computer Cases
http://www.quietpc.com/ca-en-cad/products/pc-cases/fd-d...
$146.99

SUPERMICRO MBD-X8DTi-F-O Dual LGA 1366 Intel 5520 Extended ATX Dual Intel Xeon 5500 and 5600 Series Server Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Item #: N82E16813182182
$429.99





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