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6870 vs 6950 vs 560 ti

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May 20, 2011 6:55:04 AM

Hey. I need a little help deciding on which of these cards to get for my newly build PC.

I'll be gaming at 1080p, won't OC, and I have a $250 budget.

These are the brands of cards that I'm currently looking at:

EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100314-2SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100312-1GSR Radeon HD 6950 1GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



The 6950 card is $60 more than the 6870, but I don't think the differences between the two is worth that much. The Evga 560 ti is a sweet spot at $230 w/ free shipping, so I'm probably leaning that way right now.











BTW here are my PC specs:

case: Rosewill CHALLENGER Black

mobo: BIOSTAR TH67+ LGA 1155 Intel H67

CPU: Intel Core i5-2400

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 8GB DDR3 1333

PSU: Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W



In general I'm looking for a card that's fast enough to run The Witcher 2 at decent FPS.

More about : 6870 6950 560

a c 153 U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 7:29:00 AM

The Witcher 2 is hell on graphics cards apparently... Uhm, I wouldn't get the 6870 for sure. If you can splurge for a 6950 2GB and unlock it to mimic a 6970 that would the way to go. Otherwise 6950 = GTX 560 Ti so pick which ever you prefer.
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a c 169 U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 7:29:25 AM

Hello and welcome to the forums
GTX 560Ti and 6950 offer pretty much the same performance and both are faster than 6870.You can either go with 6950(which you can unlock it to a 6970) or just get 560Ti.Both are really good and you can't go wrong with either
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May 20, 2011 7:39:02 AM

I've been hearing rumors that the newer 6950's no longer unlock. If true, there is very little difference between the 560Ti and the 6950 at 1080p....
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a b U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 1:56:21 PM

6870 has higher price vs performance ratio, as it's only 10% behind GTX560Ti on avg. What's your current GPU, Witcher 2 has some bugs and even high-end GPUs have problems running it on 1080p.

... Imo this 6950 is a bit better than the one you listed:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

It's even cheaper than EVGA 560Ti you listed and is a bit faster too (6950 IS faster than 560Ti, but only little bit.)
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a b U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 2:13:36 PM

The latest beta drivers from NVIDIA solves the problems with Witcher 2.
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a b U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 2:19:03 PM

Means we all must change to nVidia cause of that? :D 
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a b U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 2:27:09 PM

At least thats what the ign reviewer says. But you can't argue the fact that NVIDIA makes great drivers.
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a b U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 2:32:45 PM

Yeah.. This year they only have already released 2 drivers that made GTX590s blow up and then released drivers that kept the core clock down and you couldn't raise voltage or clock speeds, but mostly good drivers.
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a b U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 2:36:47 PM

GTX 590s in their current state will blow up when pushed.Thats why NVIDIA will relaunch the card with beefier VRMs and better cooling. NVIDIA did things right in not allowing overclocking with the 590, lest you end up with 750$ paperweights.
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a b U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 2:41:14 PM

GTX590s weren't the only ones that blew up, i heard that some of GTX570s blew up too, but never mind, we all agree that nVidia makes good drivers.
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May 20, 2011 2:54:36 PM

I don't know about you but I'm in a similar boat. I've been looking at the msi 560 ti twin frozr. It seems to me that for a $20 premium the extra cooling to go a long way, especially if you plan to oc. It heard people saying it can reach 570 levels on a good, stable overclock.

But then again you would be losing evga's trade-in policy which looks rather attractive with new gpu's being released as quickly as they are.

Here's a link to the msi card:

MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
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a b U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 3:13:21 PM

Even @ 1.1Ghz core 560Ti will still be behind 570 by a minimum amount of FPS
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May 20, 2011 4:03:52 PM

shrkbay said:
6870 has higher price vs performance ratio, as it's only 10% behind GTX560Ti on avg. What's your current GPU, Witcher 2 has some bugs and even high-end GPUs have problems running it on 1080p.


I don't have a dedicated card at the moment, the one I'm getting would be the first.

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... Imo this 6950 is a bit better than the one you listed:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...



I looked at that card a few days ago on Newegg. It got some pretty bad reviews so I decided to look at a different brand.
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a c 217 U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 4:11:50 PM

majin ssj eric said:
I've been hearing rumors that the newer 6950's no longer unlock. If true, there is very little difference between the 560Ti and the 6950 at 1080p....


The shaders can be unlocked on the non-reference cards, you just can't flash them to 6970 bios. Unlocked shaders with an overclock on the gpu and memory will have the same performance as a 6970 bios flash.
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May 20, 2011 4:20:25 PM

Could someone explain what a non-reference card is? I thought it was just an overclocked card or some modification the company did to its card.

Does it have something to do with the actual chipset?
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a c 217 U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 4:35:15 PM

rkkonrad said:
Could someone explain what a non-reference card is? I thought it was just an overclocked card or some modification the company did to its card.

Does it have something to do with the actual chipset?


You are correct. But the bios is slightly different on most non-reference cards. They may also use different video ram, fans, voltage regulators, which all may have slightly different settings set by the bios.
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May 20, 2011 4:37:31 PM

Oh I see.
Thanks for the clear up.
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a c 217 U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 4:49:40 PM

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First of all:
HD6950 1GB is my choice......Radeons perform better at higher resolutions in most games,

Second of all, u dont have to unlock the 6950 to get a 6970 performance, in fact OCing it is safer and produces the same results,


Thirdly, HD6870 is a no go for the performance u're looking for

Lastly,
XFX HD6950 1GB is at USD209 after rebates

only downside is u dont get a free HDMI cable from Sapphire


It is safer, I don't argue that, but one of thing that makes the 6970 faster is that it has more shaders available. Modifying the original bios to unlock the shaders does improve performance.
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a b U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 4:59:30 PM

Nope, you might gain 5FPS on Metro 2033 2560x1600 maxed out, but usually u get much more from that
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a c 217 U Graphics card
May 20, 2011 5:03:33 PM

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^ the performance gained is just a mere 5fps, not worth the risk of BSOD IMO


It's probably smaller than that on average, but it varies. It won't make a real noticeable difference in many games, but when a game is on the edge of playability, it will make a noticeable difference.

The shader unlock method (not the 6970 bios flash), is relatively safe. You don't change voltages, memory timings, fan profiles or anything other than unlock the shaders. If the chip is fully operational, which nearly all are, it will work, if it doesn't, you flash it back.

The method does include a flash (flashing the original modified bios), so there is risk involved, but you can take precautions to minimize it.

The risk vs reward is a person one. It may not be worth the risk for you, it might be for others.
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a c 217 U Graphics card
May 21, 2011 2:08:16 AM

Some of the non-reference cards are also up to or over an inch shorter as well.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
May 21, 2011 8:50:13 AM

The length of a reference of a GTX560 is 9" and the ones I have are about 8" or so.
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May 21, 2011 11:41:40 PM

After a lot of back and forth I've decided to go with the Sapphire 6950. '


Thanks everyone for your help.
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May 29, 2011 12:28:43 AM

Best answer selected by leohawke.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
May 29, 2011 9:21:52 AM

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