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Future Desktop Build (Questions/Concerns) *First Time Builder

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July 27, 2011 2:06:57 AM

So, for the past few months I've been scouring the internet, researching, reading reviews on components for a new pc that I want to build myself. It will be split between gaming and video editing, so it needs to be pretty powerful but I want to get the MOST power for the LEAST amount of money. Most likely I'll be getting the parts around Christmas time as I probably won't have the money for it until then.

Okay, so the main components are my concern as of now. (I won't post all the specific components until I've got it all figured out and I'll do a final check)
The CPU I'm looking at right now is the Phenom II X4 965 BE. It seems like the best choice for price/performance. BUT, since I won't be building this until the holiday season (most likely) then I'm fairly excited for the AMD Zambezi processors. I hear that they will come out in September. Anybody have any news on that?

My second main component, is the graphics card. Right now I'm looking at the GTX 465, I know that the 460 is probably better because of its lower power consumption and cooler temps, but I found, what I think is, a really good deal for the 465:
GTX 465
It doesn't look very cool, but it's a great price PLUS I can overclock it pretty well I've heard.

Anywho, those are my main confuzzlements for now. Probably won't be able to make a solid decision until Zambezi comes out, but might as well start early!
Thanks for any input!
October 30, 2011 4:08:37 PM

Okay, so after months of no replies I'm gonna go ahead and update this thread with my current list of components. Bulldozer processors are definitely not going into my build now (unless the price drops dramatically). So pretty much same as the first post: LEAST amount of money for MOST amount of performance, so every component on the list should have a great price/performance ratio.
Budget is up to $1000 I guess, but I'd like to have some extra cash leftover afterward, so 800 or 900 is good too! My plan is to get some components through good deals on cyber monday (on newegg) and then the rest will probably come from Christmas deals. I want to have the entire build ready for Christmas. It's my own Christmas present to myself :D 
Here's my current selection of parts:

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519
Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849
Video Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908
Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021
Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
Hard Drive: (The price will drop quite a bit later on)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CSIFFS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2
Monitor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009256
Optical Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
Operating System:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
CPU Cooler:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Now the case is a different story in terms of saving money.......I want a case that looks good to me, because I'm gonna be looking at it a lot. So the case I chose (no room for change unless another case comes out that looks totally awesome)....is the
NZXT Phantom:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003WE9WQO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1
Case Fans:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233067
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039825LW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0046W7Y84/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

So there it is. If anyone knows other components for better deals let me know. Pretty much any thoughts on this build. It will be my first build. And also let me know if you want more information on anything. I plan on leaving this post open to replies until Christmas. So, two months...I'm sure a lot of prices will change and stuff like that......Thanks again!
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October 30, 2011 4:28:25 PM

That CPU doesn't fit your criteria - it should be the X4. Your build will do great with a 500W PSU. Other than that it's pretty good.
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October 30, 2011 4:47:48 PM

FinneousPJ said:
That CPU doesn't fit your criteria - it should be the X4. Your build will do great with a 500W PSU. Other than that it's pretty good.


How so? I'll be doing video editing, so more cores are better (right?). And that's the best price/performance six-core cpu out there:
http://cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html#cpuvalue

As for the power supply, I wanted a little bit of head room for power...I plan on crossfiring the 6850 when I need to....but I might go down to a 650 watt. As of now, I checked out 600w to 700w psu's and my current one gave the best bang/buck.....

And like I said, this thread will be here for a while, so even if the build is okay for now, and might not get replies for a while, when there's a price drop or a new value-minded product and I don't find out about it I expect to hear about it on here.
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October 30, 2011 5:10:01 PM

Rethink your entire build.To start off get an i7 2600k and an Arock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3.
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October 30, 2011 6:11:19 PM

Nigelfrost said:
Rethink your entire build.To start off get an i7 2600k and an Arock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3.


The 2600k is $320 on newegg.....even if you consider that good price/performance it's still expensive. So, no.....I'm not getting that.....
Actually I would really rather keep it to an AMD processor (if I went intel it would be the 2500k anyway) because if when I upgrade in the future I don't want to have to change motherboards and AMD processors are definitely going to be cheaper. If I went intel and had to upgrade I'd be stuck with expensive processors or changing my motherboard to AMD.
Now if the 2600k was being sold for half price, then sure.
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October 30, 2011 7:02:08 PM

Wow.......this is exactly what I'm looking for:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
How are they able to price this that low?? And I'm a 2-hour drive from a microcenter so that's okay.

Okay...so if I did go with this 2500k, which motherboard should I get?? (again, keep in mind price/performance...I know how pricey intel mobos can go for)
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November 8, 2011 11:37:48 PM

Now I've decided to shave off some more cash by switching the case from the Phantom to the NZXT Lexa S. I really like the look and the usb ports and audio jacks are in the perfect place because I plan to put the case on the right side of my desk.
On amazon it's $65.
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November 11, 2011 11:11:17 PM

Okay, so I just ordered the NZXT Phantom because it was on sale for 20% off.
I also ordered Corsair Vengeance 8gb (2 x 4gb) for like $40, an optical drive, a 200mm fan, and a 750w OCZ power supply.

As always, keep me posted with any great deals, especially as we're getting closer to Christmas.
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November 26, 2011 2:02:23 PM

Okay so off the top of my head this is what I have so far (already ordered or at home):
8gb Corsair Vengeance Low-Profile RAM
NZXT Phantom Case
750w OCZ Power Supply
Hannspree 21.5" LCD Monitor (1920 x 1080)
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ CPU Cooler
Intel 2500k Processor

Now the main component I'm focusing on getting next is the motherboard.
I was looking at this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seems like that one is super cheap, yet good quality and has the ability to crossfire.
Any other boards that compare in terms of value?

EDIT: Oh and this one seems ridiculously cheap.....any specific reason for that?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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November 26, 2011 4:57:24 PM

Slightly off-topic, but you'ld DRIVE 2 hours to save $50?
In the UK it would cost me $59 in gas. Unbelievable. I'd want the CPU free!
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November 26, 2011 5:32:46 PM

In America, gas is like half what it is in the UK and nobody here values their time above $0 so yeah some people consider it to be worth their time.

That being said, If the OP is going to MicroCenter anyway, they give away low end motherboards free with processors.

OP, just build the computer you want online through their website and they should offer you a series of micro ATX motherboards for free with the processor. It won't really matter which one you pick since they will all be entry level versions, but they usually have OC capability unlocked.

If you really do want to go x2 on video cards, though, that is out because they don't have that potential.

In reality, if you are budget conscious and willing to play on medium settings you can make an OK gaming computer for $400 or less and just save the rest of the money for 2 or 3 years out when you want to upgrade again.
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November 26, 2011 5:40:50 PM

I wish I read your post earlier. There would be some changes definitely
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November 26, 2011 8:37:14 PM

longpig said:
Slightly off-topic, but you'ld DRIVE 2 hours to save $50?
In the UK it would cost me $59 in gas. Unbelievable. I'd want the CPU free!


Well, I go there every month anyway, and I actually ended up asking a friend that lived near a microcenter to get me the 2500k when it was on sale (Black Friday) for $150.....
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November 26, 2011 8:47:57 PM

Raiddinn said:
In America, gas is like half what it is in the UK and nobody here values their time above $0 so yeah some people consider it to be worth their time.

That being said, If the OP is going to MicroCenter anyway, they give away low end motherboards free with processors.

OP, just build the computer you want online through their website and they should offer you a series of micro ATX motherboards for free with the processor. It won't really matter which one you pick since they will all be entry level versions, but they usually have OC capability unlocked.

If you really do want to go x2 on video cards, though, that is out because they don't have that potential.

In reality, if you are budget conscious and willing to play on medium settings you can make an OK gaming computer for $400 or less and just save the rest of the money for 2 or 3 years out when you want to upgrade again.


I think you're coming into this a little late... ;) 
I'm willing to spend around $900 (that's INCLUDING the price of monitor, speakers, and windows 7)
I've ALREADY spent $525 on the NZXT Phantom, 8 gigs of ram, a monitor, 212+ cpu cooler, 2500k processor, OCZ 750w psu, a fan.....I think that's it.........
So, I can't change those things........I'm planning on spending around $450-$500 on the rest (hard drive, speakers, OS, video card, motherboard, and some more fans)

I'm thinking of getting the asus p8p67-m pro motherboard...I know it's a small motherboard and I have a big case, but that seems to be the best price/performance motherboard that can crossfire, because at Microcenter (again) I can get the open box model for $83 instead of $150.......
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December 5, 2011 11:50:38 PM

Okay, well I guess I don't need this thread anymore, the only thing I have left to order is the graphics card. I already did a test boot with the asus p8p67-m pro motherboard and 2500k with hyper 212 plus, and it worked. Anyone know how to close a thread or do I have to let one of the admins do that...... Because there wasn't really a 'best answer'.....
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December 6, 2011 12:30:38 AM

just let it rip
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December 6, 2011 12:33:25 AM

Best answer selected by Luxio.
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December 7, 2011 12:26:51 AM

Actually, I guess I spoke too soon.....
As I was starting to build the computer, I realized that the diagram in the motherboard manual didn't fit up with the actual motherboard. Upon closer inspection I saw that it was the wrong motherboard. The box and manual are both of the correct model (P8P67-M Pro) but the motherboard is actually a P8H67-M Evo...It was an open box item, so I suspect someone bought it, switched out the motherboard with their own, and then brought it back. But seriously this should never have happened, they (microcenter) have to check their products before they put them up for sale....So, anyone have any experience with microcenter, or how do retailers usually deal with this? Because this is a big screw-up and I have to drive 2 hours to get to a microcenter and 2 hours to get back.
I think I'm entitled to more than just a replacement with the board I was going to get, because I think they don't sell that one anymore. I'm thinking a better motherboard replacement.....so if I am allowed to get a different motherboard, perhaps better, which one should I get?
You can see what microcenter sells if you go to their website and search under the location Kansas City, KS.
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December 7, 2011 8:56:21 AM

Damn they screwed u big times. Yeah they should be checking serial numbers on mobos.
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