[Need help] $2000 First time GAMING buil plz advise

[Lunat1c]

I know nothing about computers, i just love to play games on them. I want to be able to run most games on full graphics with out any problems. I will need a monitor also with this. Im not sure if AMD is better then Intel so all advise will be appreciated. Again im looking for a killer gaming pc to run most games on FULL graphics, please advise.

* Sorry for not reading the posting format *



Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: $2000.00 - $2400.00 after rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: Everything except Keyboard and mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Doesn't matter

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences:CPU and Mobo what's ever is the best for gaming and as for the case, i like the NZXT orange

Overclocking: yes

SLI or Crossfire: idk, what ever is better for gaming performance

Monitor Resolution: idk.. Looking for the best I can get.

Additional Comments:just want to build a monster gaming computer that runs mostly everything on MAX graphics.

 

[Outlander_04]

Read the thread about how to ask for advice

 

[Why_Me]

I know nothing about computers, i just love to play games on them. I want to be able to run most games on full graphics with out any problems. I will need a monitor also with this. Im not sure if AMD is better then Intel so all advise will be appreciated. Again im looking for a killer gaming pc to run most games on FULL graphics, please advise.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice

 

[Lunat1c]

Ok im sorry for initial post, all help will be appreciated.

 

[Lunat1c]

Anyone have any good builds?

 

[3xch4ng3]

I know nothing about computers, i just love to play games on them. I want to be able to run most games on full graphics with out any problems. I will need a monitor also with this. Im not sure if AMD is better then Intel so all advise will be appreciated. Again im looking for a killer gaming pc to run most games on FULL graphics, please advise.

* Sorry for not reading the posting format *



Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: $2000.00 - $2400.00 after rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: Everything except Keyboard and mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Doesn't matter

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences:CPU and Mobo what's ever is the best for gaming and as for the case, i like the NZXT orange

Overclocking: yes

SLI or Crossfire: idk, what ever is better for gaming performance

Monitor Resolution: idk.. Looking for the best I can get.

Additional Comments:just want to build a monster gaming computer that runs mostly everything on MAX graphics.

The main issue I have with your post is you state that you know nothing about computers, Yet you're looking for build advice and mention overclocking.

Are you going to be building and overclocking this yourself? If so, I'd say you need to know something about computer before dropping 2K on parts and going at it.

It would be a safer bet to get a custom built gaming machine from a retailer for this kind of money. You might pay a little more up front, but atleast you'll have piece of mind and a 3 Year warranty for the whole system.

http://www.falcon-nw.com/
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
http://www.alienware.com/

If you're really looking to get into building this yourself I would 1/2 that budget and start small with a lot of room for upgrades. Here's a nice base configuration:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.673761

1x Antec Lanboy air Blue Black / Blue ATX Mid Tower Computer Modular Case (Model:Lanboy air Blue)

1x ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS (Model8Z68-V PRO)

1x Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply (Model:HCG-900)

1x Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K (Model:BX80623I72600K)

2x Corsair Force Series CSSD-F60GB2-BRKT-A 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Model:CSSD-F60GB2-BRKT-A)

1x CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9B (Model:CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9B)

Total $1,129.99


Then I would price out a Nvidia GTX 560 Ti or ATI Radeon HD 6950 Video card and you're all set.

 

[Lunat1c]

I just mentioned over clocking because I see it all over the forums and though you could buy hardware that is overclocked. I'm looking for a high end PC, I'll check out some of the custom builds but I thought I could get more for my money if I build it. Thank you for you suggestions.

 

[3xch4ng3]

I just mentioned over clocking because I see it all over the forums and though you could buy hardware that is overclocked. I'm looking for a high end PC, I'll check out some of the custom builds but I thought I could get more for my money if I build it. Thank you for you suggestions.

I've been building and overclocking systems for 10+ years now and I still have issues with getting stable systems. It's definitely not something to jump into if you don't know what you're doing. You can get more for your money if you build it yourself but there's absolutely nothing more frustrating than dropping $2,000 on computer parts and not being able to get the system to work.

The single more important skill behind building the system yourself is having the ability to trouble shoot and fix issues. You have no "warranty" outside of the parts themselves and have to be comfortable with narrowing down issues and identify the root cause and fix it.

There's countless threads and YouTube videos on how to build a proper PC, I would start there and see if building your own is right for you. If not, look to getting a pre-built machine as an alternative.

Hopefully this helps.

 

[Lunat1c]

I should clerify, I'm out of date with today's technology. I tinkered around with PC upgrades about 10 years ago, but with today's tech. I'm just out if the loop on the new products. With YouTube tutorial I will be fine putting a PC together. Trouble shooting may be a different issue, but I'm willing to give it a go. So if anyone has a high end gaming build please share.

 

[BluCounter]

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/high-end-gaming-pc-q2-2011/
That should satisfy you!
Like the previous people said, look for guides!
Let me add, one week ago, I didn't know SH*T about PC's!
NOW, I know about every danger of overclocking/tweaking with BIOS.
I know how to install a gaming PC, etc!
In 1 week I figured all that out. HOW?
I looked around for "gaming pc builds", read reviews of certain items, benchmarks, you name it, countless guides!
Just be a little bit patient! You're gonna do just fine!

 

[Lunat1c]

Thank you for the great link.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

first get yourself 3 screens- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236050 150$x3=450$

i5 2500k & scythe mugen 3- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.688693 255$

OCZ ZX 1000w- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341045&Tpk=zx%201000w 200$

NZXT Phantom- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146073 140$

z68 ud4 & gskill 8gb 1600mhz ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.689144 190$

GIGABYTE GTX 580- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162073 455$x2=910$

Lite On dvd Burner- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 20$

Samsung Spinpoint f3 1tb- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=samsung%20f3%201tb 60$

Headset Corsair CA-HS1- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CA-HS1ANA-Gaming-Analog-Headset/dp/B004IZN3NY/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1311812223&sr=1-2 74$

Total=2299$

 

[Lunat1c]

Seems good but I just want one monitor (24" + and good quality) also are those video cards on the high quality? I have to research them. Main focus is epic graphics and frame rate. Appreciate your time and post, I will look into this build.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

Seems good but I just want one monitor (24" + and good quality) also are those video cards on the high quality? I have to research them. Main focus is epic graphics and frame rate. Appreciate your time and post, I will look into this build.

if you just want 1 monitor you only need 1 gtx 580. i would definitely go with 3 monitors if i were you. pc's are the only thing that can. ive tried it and its amazing.

 

[nd_hunter]

There's no point in spending that much money if you aren't gaming across multiple monitors. The example below will give you "epic graphics and frame rate" for less.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
MOBO: MSI Z68A-GD65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.674899
$369.99 ($20 MIR available), free shipping

CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049
$24.99, free shipping

RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2x4GB) 1600 CL9 1.5v
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226217
$69.99, free shipping

GPU: 2x MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) in SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565
$489.98 ($20 MIR available), free shipping

SSD: Corsair Nova Series 2 60GB SATA II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233188
$99.99, free shipping

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
$59.99, free shipping

Optical: Lite-On 24x SATA DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289
$19.99, free shipping

PSU: Antec High Current Gamer 750w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049
$94.99 ($25 MIR available), free shipping

Case: NZXT Phantom (Black w/ Orange Trim)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146073
$139.99, $2.99 shipping

Monitor: ASUS VE258Q Black 25" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor w/Display Port & Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236123
$259.99 ($10 off w/ promo code EMCKCHD23, ends 8/1), free shipping

Total: $1632.88 shipped before promo code and rebates, $1557.88 after

*Not sure if you need an OS, but the OEM version of Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit is $99.99.

 

[Lunat1c]

Very nice, it has mist components that I have been reading about and like. Quick question, do you think it better to go multiple monitors, I mean I like the idea but never tried it in gaming? I'm guessing 3 monitors is better then 2, so what revisions would you recommend with say 3 monitors?

 

[Lunat1c]

if you just want 1 monitor you only need 1 gtx 580. i would definitely go with 3 monitors if i were you. pc's are the only thing that can. ive tried it and its amazing.

Sorry I didn't see your responce, well I would love to try 3 monitors. Just need to tweak the above build to suit that, unless someone has better ideas.

 

[nd_hunter]

Very nice, it has mist components that I have been reading about and like. Quick question, do you think it better to go multiple monitors, I mean I like the idea but never tried it in gaming? I'm guessing 3 monitors is better then 2, so what revisions would you recommend with say 3 monitors?

For 3 monitors, I would change the GPUs to 2 HD 6950 2GB. The 4GB (total) of VRAM will help with the high resolution. Also, drop the monitors to 22" or 23" models. Everything else would stay the same.

 

[Lunat1c]

6950's would be the best choice there?

 

[Stok3d]

I just bought the parts for this system:

SILVERSTONE Fortress Series FT01-B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Uni-body Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163120

GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128499
Manual: http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-z68x-ud7-b3_e.pdf

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

(Boot Drive): Intel 510 Series (Elm Crest) SSDSC2MH120A2K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167042

(2x in RAID 0): Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

[1x--may SLI later]: GIGABYTE GV-N580UD-15I GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125364

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144

CORSAIR Professional Series HX1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Power ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034

[2x] Wallmounted: SAMSUNG S27A350H ToC Rose Black 27" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001481

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992

SAMSUNG Black Blu-ray Combo SATA Model SH-B123L/RSBP LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151232

Pioneer Black Blu-ray Burner SATA BDR-206DBKS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129066

 

[nd_hunter]

6950's would be the best choice there?

Well 6970s would be better...let's see if your budget can handle it.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
MOBO: MSI Z68A-GD65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.674899
$369.99 ($20 MIR available), free shipping

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CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049
$24.99, free shipping

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RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2x4GB) 1600 CL9 1.5v
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226217
$69.99, free shipping

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GPUs: 2x XFX HD-697A-CNFC Radeon HD 6970 2GB in Crossfire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150517
$679.98 ($20 MIR available), free shipping

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SSD: Corsair Nova Series 2 60GB SATA II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233188
$99.99, free shipping

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HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
$59.99, free shipping

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Optical: Lite-On 24x SATA DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289
$19.99, free shipping

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PSU: XFX 850w XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207017
$154.99 ($15 MIR available), $11.83

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Case: NZXT Phantom (Black w/ Orange Trim)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146073
$139.99, $2.99 shipping

Fan: NZXT FS-200RB 200mm Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146004
$20.17, $2.99 shipping

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Monitors: 3x ASUS VH238H 23" Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w/Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236117
$569.97 ($10 MIR available), free shipping

Adapter: PowerColor Video Adapter ACTIVE MDP TO SL DVI-D ADAPTER-C Mini DisplayPort to DVI Interface
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815309008
$24.99, $2.99 shipping

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Total: $2255.83 shipped before rebates, $2190.83 after

Some notes....

1. Eyefinity requires a signal out through a Mini DisplayPort....

2. I added a case fan to help with cooling...

3. I upped the PSU. 750 watts will be enough. However, the one above is 80+ Silver. It will also give you more headroom for overclocking the CPU and GPUs, and it's semi-modular which translates to better airflow inside the case.

 

[Lunat1c]

Looks great, I can go up to about $2700.00 so if there's minor upgrades let me know.

 

[mjmjpfaff]

Sorry I didn't see your responce, well I would love to try 3 monitors. Just need to tweak the above build to suit that, unless someone has better ideas.

look at my build i posted 2 580's should do the job...

 

[Lunat1c]

So what's better 2 580's or 2 6970's?

 

[mjmjpfaff]

So what's better 2 580's or 2 6970's?

2 580's