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October 26, 2011 3:40:30 AM

So, I spent like, $800 getting together a gaming PC(and I started at 15yo with no job, so that's a LOT to me) but I built it in a micro form factor tower, with a micro form factor MOBO, and now the final part, the GPU, won't fit. So I'll have to get a new case and MOBO, I'm sure most of my stuff is compatible, but I'm worried about the processor, I have a AMD Phenom II X6 1065T 2.9GHz and I like it, so I'd like it to be compatible with with my new MOBO, I'm planning on fitting an 11/12in graphics card in the new case/MOBO which form factor should I go for? Any specific MOBO that won't break the bank? I have quite a lot of money to earn now, but I'd like to have some direction.

Thanks in advance.'

EDIT: It'd also need to support DDR3 1333MHz RAM

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a c 274 ) Power supply
October 26, 2011 3:44:19 AM

You likely only need a new case.
Is there a problem with the mobo?
List your case budget and country you purchase from.
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October 26, 2011 3:46:08 AM

USA, and I don't think a GPU larger then 8in. would fit without running into the RAM. And I'll spend what I need to eventual, I just don't want to over kill if I don't have to.
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a c 274 ) Power supply
October 26, 2011 3:47:31 AM

MintPaw said:
USA, and I don't think a GPU larger then 8in. would fit without running into the RAM.

Motherboard make and model # please.
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a c 274 ) Power supply
October 26, 2011 4:25:19 AM


Unfortunately gateway mobo info is pretty much impossible to find on the net.
What is your max budget for a board?
You can get a good quality case for under $50 these days.
What gpu were you thinking about or have?
Power supply might be a factor.
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October 26, 2011 5:30:25 AM

My max budget is undefined, it's going to take me a few months before I can afford anything, but I'll be able to afford anything at some point, I was going for the Radeon 6870 but I may step it up a notch, not quite sure yet.

So my main concern is how to know if a processor is compatible with a motherboard.
Also, from what I can see motherboards don't come with fans, so I'll need to know if my current fan/heatsink would fit on the new motherboard, is there just one generic size for those things?
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a c 274 ) Power supply
October 26, 2011 5:35:39 AM

MintPaw said:
My max budget is undefined, it's going to take me a few months before I can afford anything, but I'll be able to afford anything at some point, I was going for the Radeon 6870 but I may step it up a notch, not quite sure yet.

So my main concern is how to know if a processor is compatible with a motherboard.
Also, from what I can see motherboards don't come with fans, so I'll need to know if my current fan/heatsink would fit on the new motherboard, is there just one generic size for those things?

Yep the cpu comes with a stock cooler that is universal fit.
You can budget @ $90 for a new mobo and that's one equipped with AM3+.= allows new BD cpu upgrade
Even cheaper @ $50-60 for an AM2/AM3 mobo.
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a b ) Power supply
October 26, 2011 5:53:00 AM

I see no reason to get a form factor case at all. If you want room for all the goodies just get a full tower.
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October 26, 2011 7:15:45 PM

davcon said:
Yep the cpu comes with a stock cooler that is universal fit.
You can budget @ $90 for a new mobo and that's one equipped with AM3+.= allows new BD cpu upgrade
Even cheaper @ $50-60 for an AM2/AM3 mobo.


Hmm, ok, so I guess I'll add this to my cart http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I might have an extra case laying around, but if not I'll grab this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It would have to be a mid sized tower right? I can't seem to tell by the MOBO, those mysterious things. :/ 
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a c 145 ) Power supply
October 26, 2011 7:44:16 PM

A micro-ATX motherboard will fit in a full ATX case.
I see no sense in changing it out.

I suggest you just get a case you like that will hold a long graphics card.
A GTX580 is 10.5" long.
If you don't have a strong graphics card already installed, you need to check the psu specs.
You are probably looking at the need for a 600w psu.

A good case is the Antec 300 illusion model which will fit a graphics card up to 11" long.
It is $45 with free shipping after rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want a smaller M-ATX case, I can recommend the Silverstone TJ08-E for $99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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a c 274 ) Power supply
October 26, 2011 9:05:26 PM

MintPaw said:
Hmm, ok, so I guess I'll add this to my cart http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I might have an extra case laying around, but if not I'll grab this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It would have to be a mid sized tower right? I can't seem to tell by the MOBO, those mysterious things. :/ 

Cheap quality case.
Coolermaster Elite 370
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55447&vpn=RC%2D370%2DK...
Antec One Hundred Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 145 ) Power supply
October 26, 2011 11:54:54 PM

Every current motherboard I know of, from itx to matx to atx will hold at least one humoungous graphics card.
They are designed so that length is not an issue; the card just extends past the end if the motherboard and clears any parts on the motherboard underneath it.

From a size point of view, you do need to check the length available when the motherboard is mounted in the case.
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October 27, 2011 1:13:56 AM

geofelt said:
Every current motherboard I know of, from itx to matx to atx will hold at least one humoungous graphics card.
They are designed so that length is not an issue; the card just extends past the end if the motherboard and clears any parts on the motherboard underneath it.

From a size point of view, you do need to check the length available when the motherboard is mounted in the case.



I assume by this you exclude ATX Micro, because the RAM really looks like it'd in the way of any GPU, I would take a picture, but I have a pretty crappy camera. I'll give it a shot in a moment.
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a c 145 ) Power supply
October 27, 2011 1:23:50 AM

MintPaw said:
I assume by this you exclude ATX Micro, because the RAM really looks like it'd in the way of any GPU, I would take a picture, but I have a pretty crappy camera. I'll give it a shot in a moment.


Some motherboards have ram slots that are very close to where the video card is inserted. But, not to worry. If you install the ram first and lock it in, the graphics card will fit. Guaranteed. That includes every modern motherboard size.
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October 27, 2011 1:24:49 AM

Ok, I took a pic, didn't come out that bad:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/904346/Mobo.png

1. is the Pci-E port
2. is the ram

The blue like in about 8in long

So yeah, it's pretty in the way.

EDIT: Ok then, I guess I'll pick the GPU and card and give it a shot. :/ 
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a c 145 ) Power supply
October 27, 2011 1:35:53 AM

MintPaw said:
Ok, I took a pic, didn't come out that bad:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/904346/Mobo.png

1. is the Pci-E port
2. is the ram

The blue like in about 8in long

So yeah, it's pretty in the way.

EDIT: Ok then, I guess I'll pick the GPU and card and give it a shot. :/ 


1) Measure the length you have so you know the maximum size before your card bumps into the front of the case.
Some cards have pci-e connectors at the end, so account for that. You have enough room for a dual slot card which is the norm.
A google search will tell you the card's length.

2) Make certain that your psu is adequate for your new card.
Here is a list of Nvidia recommended psu's:
GTX550ti needs 400w with 24a on the 12v rails plus one 6-pin PCI-E power lead.

GTX560 needs 450w with 24a on the 12v rails plus two 6-pin PCI-E power leads.

GTX560Ti needs 500w with 30a on the 12v rails plus two 6-pin PCI-E power leads.

GTX570 needs 550w with 38a on the 12v rails plus two 6-pin PCI-E power leads.

GTX580 needs 600w with 42a on the 12v rails plus one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCI-E power lead.

GTX590 needs 700w with 50a on the 12v rails plus two 8-pin PCI-E power leads or 4 6-pin power leads.
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a b ) Power supply
October 28, 2011 1:24:49 PM

Those small form factor PCs really bone you when it comes to upgrading sometimes.

Next time you are building from scratch take the full tower case if you can possibly fit it anywhere and it will constrain your other choices much less.
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