NVIDIA gtx 600 series vs AMD hd 7000 series

It's really hard to say this early on. Keep in mind, there isn't really a clear winner even between the 500 series and the 6000 series. There are always tradeoffs and there is a degree of subjectivity. Brand preference also comes into play.

The 6990 is slightly faster than the 590, but most prefer the 590 because of the much lower noise level.

The 580 is the fastest single gpu card but the performance/dollar is lower than several of the other high end cards.

Bottom line is that there rarely is going to be one card that is flat out a better proposition than what the other side is offering. Plus, there haven't been many details released so anything out there is nearly pure speculation.

LOL! how about a new company comes along beating both ATI(NOW ITS AMD) and NVIDIA!

Though   I had a bad history with ATI cards,so i preffer always nvidia!
lol when i was10 i got a ATI CARD lol! but after 3 days of gaming it blew up suddenly!
warrany was there but they said my psu is faulty!

lol now i am 16! Now I have bought about 4-7 gpus already from nvidia still its working fine lol!

Your comment is pointless, boring and irrelevant. So what's with all the lol's?

I think the HD 7000 series will perform better than the GTX 600 series because 7000 is a bigger number than 600.

     

I'd be surprised if one dominates the other. I mean I know they're doing die shrinks so that's awesome. 600 series is Kepler right?

In the end, whoever makes the better cards, we all win. I'm waiting till next gen for my next upgrade, because it *should* be very impressive.

From what i have heard, Nvidia is going to be using a new type of chip and also might upgrade their vapor chamber design. With these new chips, we really do not know what to expect from the new cards. But, my heart is always with Nvidia for their customer service and great quality cards.

we will know the answer when both card officially got launch by the end of this year or early next year  

Well its all specullation, but atm id go with the radeon, currently have an o/c 6970 runs every game maxed out with great frame rates and no issues, my previous 3 nvidia cards all had to be sent back for warranty within a week of purchasing so nvidia can suck dick for all i care, And thats my 2 cents hehe  

my last 3 cards were nvidia and i never have any problem with either of the card. never have any problem with my previous radeons as well  

That's personal experience.Previously I owned A 4850 and the driver support from AMD was horrendous.With each new release I honestly spent more time trying to find which driver worked best because for some games when fps increased for other games they decreased.I bought my gtx 275 a year ago and it has given me no problems till now(except in bfbc2 which had screen flickering in 270.61 but was solved with 275.33)  

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Um, that's also personal experience.

At the end of the day it comes down to personal taste , As I stated I had 3 bad experiences in a row from nvidia (Different card vendors aswell) , My 2nd Ati card atm (1st was a HD4870), havent ever had a drama with my 2 radeons so atm ill stick with Ati unless nvidia come out with something real special thats not double the price of the radeon for an extra 10fps.. As you guys stated comes down to personal taste and experiances.

i think the true moral of value is you can't say this X product is bad just because you never had a good experience with them. if the the product are truly bad then majority of the people will also complain about it.  

Too true.

From what I understand the 600 series is going to be a die shrink and have a totally revamped architecture (Kepler) which is supposed to be much more efficient than Fermi.

However, for the 7000 series it is only going to be a die shrink of the 6000 series, with perhaps the exception of the 7900 series, though the 7800 series and below are not.

Therefore I'm leaning towards the 600 series.

This is just educated guessing though from some articles which may or may not be true, and from talking to a guy on another forum back in April who apparently worked for nVidia and seems legit according to the other members there.

Article:

Rumour: NVIDIA's next-gen Kepler taped out, AMD Southern Islands in September

Forum discussion:

Lord Sojar on Kepler

What your saying sounds pretty on the money, However Nvidia generally do have the faster card, Just depends on their pricing for the relative performance.

im sorry but i have to agree with this amazing statement! XD

Let's hope neither are going to add significantly to my energy bill.

I changed to a 560 Ti recently from a 4850 crossfire setup, so i guess i will be skipping that generation, not to mention i could get another 560Ti later on and get a good boost (or upgrade to a new gen if the cost is close same as performance  ).

personal exprience then what i think about the topic.


Firstly i have had many nvidia cards and radeon cards, i have had 2 nvidia cards that came in the box with problems (red artifacts would apear when i installed any drivers. I had to send them both back, evga btw) and one radeon card that worked on windows vista only. no drivers for win7 or winxp or even linux.

So what it comes down to is luck sometimes you get a good card sometimes you get a *** card.

Now for the topic at hand, with all new things comes bugs breaks and fixes, personally im going to wait until all of the 600 series cards are on the market and have good reviews before i get one.

As for the radeon 7000 series i wont be getting simply because i have this thing were i don't get a radeon unless im running an amd cpu, and since i have no machines with a amd cpu i wont be getting one unless i do.

so for me amd=ati
and intel=nvidia
as for the verdict which will win? radeon will win when it comes to benchmarks, but nvidia will win in sales.
and yes nvidia will be the better card to get for myself because radeon doesn't have phisx (last i heard)

you can't put it like that dude. let me ask this: can you find a benchmark where HD6970 (amd (ati) current flagship) win against GTX580 (nvidia current flagship) in every games tested out there? some games favors the red camp and some others the green camp and some other perform just the same given both card from both camp have same performance level. in short you can just make wild conclusion than radeon will own all the benchmark against nvidia.



having physx does not make the nvidia card better. it was one of the extra feature for nvidia cards. however there are very few games out there using the feature to the extreme to make this feature significantly important to most gamers. radeon doesn't have physx because the technology was owned by nvidia.

Prorbably will mirror whats going on wiht 6990 and 590.
ATI 7000 little bit faster but more noise and bigger
GTX 600 more conservative clock for its potential (unless when other manufacturers OC it), more quiet, and probably higher build quailty

not sure about that. there are still so many thing we don't know about both card.

^ true, but just speculations based on current available data.

AMD southern islands 7000 series video cards are rumored to have new architecture along with NVIDIA. Amds 7000 series gpus are reportedly going to feature Graphics Core Next (GCN) architecture. I don't have the time to write about what it is but there is plenty of information about it on the web.

Right now I'm running a 4870. I liked for the first few years, but I really can't stand it anymore. It performs great and everything, but AMD just can't seem to release good drivers. For a while CCC would not open not matter what. 11.5, 11.8, it didn't matter. Simply would not open. It works now, but who knows what the next driver update could do.

Because of this, I've pretty much made up my mind I'm going with Nvidia when the next gen cards come out, unless reviews lead me to change this.

Both will be late and in short supply if anyone has been reading on the Fud. Beyond that I don't have high hopes after Nvidia's screw up with the Fermi generation but at least ATI can make some decent cards despite their drivers.

How did Nvidia "screw up" with Fermi? I've never had an Nvidia card or done much research on their fermi generation, but from what I understand it performs well even though the power draw is slightly high. Not saying you're wrong, just curious.

God, the AMD drivers...god....

-.- Sure they perform well and their idle draw is good but overall quality of their cards are poor. It is Hard to not notice all the complaints posted online about their cards having cooling and power issues. Then there are the pictures of where some cards had shorted out and burned.

I have had two 4870's, two 5870's, and now two 6970's and never experienced one time anything wrong with AMD drivers. Maybe you guys are doing something wrong. I have 6 other friends who have had AMD cards their entire life and they also said they never have had any problems with AMD drivers. The only driver problems I had is when I had my NVIDIA 9500 GT. Every game I played was very glitchy over heated my 9500 and my computer would crash. Afterwards switched to AMD and been perfect since.

Hd 7000 cards are knocking my door.....  

lenzfire.com/2011/09/amd-radeon-hd-7000-series-graphic-card-details-exposed-40795/

I will wait and see how the two titans stack up to one another before I side either way.

My first system build was with an ati 9200, second build was with a NVidia 7900GS, then I got an NVidia 8800GT, then switched to a ATI HD 4870. Now I run on a Nvidia GTX 580.

I will use NVidia or AMD I dont really care witch I am not a fan boy. It all comes down to witch card will run the games I want the best, with the most Eye candy turned on, and highest frame rates.

I have had good and bad experiences with both sides of this battle and will probably never be dedicated to one side or the other.

I am not a fanboy either but I lean towards more AMD because they are normally cheaper and still have spectacular performance. I have two 6970s and I chose them over two 580s simply because the 6970s have 2GB of vram each which I need with my 30" 2560 x 1600 display. Plus my powercolors video cards run very cool at around 60 degrees celsius each running at 940 core and 1425 mem while playing games. I buy which cards fit my needs. The only game I can't max out is metro 2033 and because that game was designed to run with NVIDIA cards so it prob runs better if you have NVIDIA.

I expect the AMD 7000 series will be fastest when it's released before the Nvidia 600 series. I then expect the Nvidia 600 series cards to have a massive advantage in transistor count and take the performance crown away, then I expect the AMD 8000 series to beat out the Nvidia 600 series, followed by the Nvidia 700 series faster and so on and so forth.

I think Amd needs to change its numbers up a little bit because I have already owned a 7950. I Like the sound of a amd 10,000. For choosing a card will depend on the Sound factor and heat. So what ever one seems like it will last the longest I am all for it. cheap would be a good thing. Amd or nvidia I've had both and have been lucky so far. except for the 7950gt burnt up five years after purchase do to someone else neglect. But if there is a AMD 10,000 I'm sold.

Is there any actual information on either card yet?

The only thing you can even SPECULATE on this subject is price, and maybe (and that's a big maybe) power draw. Its common for AMD to have both low heat, low power, and low price chips. So the only thing one can speculate is that AMD will most likely have the cheaper cards, with lower price/performance ratio. Also, it is most likely that AMD will come out with their next series before nvidia, as they released their last series before nvidia did as well.

fermi was late, hot, underperforming, and each one had to be sold at a loss because so few made it out of tsmc in one piece,

HAHA  

You mean Intel graphics? That would be hilarious.

^No, he means Voodoo or HP  

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