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GTX 590 or ATI 6990?

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May 24, 2011 7:02:00 PM

Hello,

I have just built a new PC with a I7 2600k sandy bridge processor, it's currently running with a GTX 460 and I've had a 4870x2 in it as well. I'm now in a position to upgrade the graphics card and do not know which would be best a 590 or a 6990, I've had a look at some reviews and I am struggling to decide. In the future I may want to try the tripple monitor setup and was wondering which would be the best card to buy.

Thanks, Dave.

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May 24, 2011 7:17:38 PM

I have a XFX Pro 750W power supply. I play games such as Crysis, Witcher, World of warcraft, Mass effect 2, Shogun 2 total war and split second. I like most games and would like to get a card that would support basically any game thats out at the moment.

Thanks, Dave.
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a c 216 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 7:24:11 PM

For less money and less noise, you could go with two 6950 and unlock the shaders to have the same as a 6970. They'd be as fast or faster too.
May 24, 2011 7:47:51 PM

Tigerdirect still has some HD 6950 2Gb reference models available that can be fully unlocked to HD 6970's with a bios flash.
a c 214 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 8:04:21 PM

Well in Crysis the 6990 outperfroms the GTX590 by a minimal 5 FPS.Like I said before their performance is so close it really doesn't make choosing either one a better.The maximum gain over the other is 10 FPS which is hardly something to consider.

I guess go with which one is cheaper or that your prefer based on looks or company.

Also yes in some case's a crossfire'd 6970 is slightly better than a 6990 but their is always the hastle of drivers and games that don't support crossfire/sli.Not every game supports crossfire/sli so in some games 1 card will idle and do nothing.I think it's best to go with a more powerful single card and save yourself the trouble of a dual card setup.
a c 214 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 8:10:08 PM

All of the 6990's and GTX590's ae currently out of stock at newegg but the cheapest seems to be the XFX version for $735 and the cheapest GTX590 is $750.At that level $20 isn't really gonna make a difference but I guess it's something to think about.
May 24, 2011 8:26:24 PM

davexxsmith said:
Thanks for the replies but I'm a tad concerned If i could fit 2x HD 6950's in my case. My case is a http://www.digitgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ant... and my motherboard is Asus P8H67-M. Because of the thickness of the card I'm not 100% sure If two would fit in.

Thanks, Dave.


I 'd seriously consider upgrading that mobo for the performance and price points u r looking at.
Get a p67 board and CF 6950s along with a new case should cost u around the same as either one of those cards.

edit : u DONT need a new case. Your case can fit those in without any problem what so ever.
May 24, 2011 8:26:25 PM

As the others have stated - performance is quite close. If fan noise and heat are a concern, go with the 590.
a c 216 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 8:28:43 PM

purple stank said:
Well in Crysis the 6990 outperfroms the GTX590 by a minimal 5 FPS.Like I said before their performance is so close it really doesn't make choosing either one a better.The maximum gain over the other is 10 FPS which is hardly something to consider.

I guess go with which one is cheaper or that your prefer based on looks or company.

Also yes in some case's a crossfire'd 6970 is slightly better than a 6990 but their is always the hastle of drivers and games that don't support crossfire/sli.Not every game supports crossfire/sli so in some games 1 card will idle and do nothing.I think it's best to go with a more powerful single card and save yourself the trouble of a dual card setup.


All games that support crossfire or SLI will only use one of the gpu's on the 6990's and 590's. The 6990 is a crossfire card and the 590 is an SLI card. The only difference is they fit two GPU's on a single card.
a c 216 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 8:30:15 PM

Marnad said:
As the others have stated - performance is quite close. If fan noise and heat are a concern, go with the 590.


While it's very true that the 6990 is loud, the 590 is just as hot, if not more so. When people try to OC the 590's, due to their less effective cooling in terms of heat dissipation, they have been failing.
a c 214 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 8:36:13 PM

I didn't know they were already in a SLI/Crossfire setup as a single card.Thought they were tied into each other like a dual core.

That being the case I think it is best then to crossfire 6950's since the Crossfire/SLI situation will be the same either way.
May 24, 2011 8:37:35 PM

gametstr said:
I 'd seriously consider upgrading that mobo for the performance and price points u r looking at.
Get a p67 board and CF 6950s along with a new case should cost u around the same as either one of those cards.

edit : u DONT need a new case. Your case can fit those in without any problem what so ever.


Looking at a P67 Sabertooth mobo and the distance between the PCI-E connectors looks the same as my mobo so still not sure if 2 6950's would fit together.

If i did get 2 6950's would a 750w power supply handle them? or would I need to upgrade that also. Also If i was to change my motherboard to a P67 mobo, could you please recommend one as I'm still worried about fitting 2 cards on one mobo, as I'm not sure if they will physically fit. For example the XFX 6950 looks thinner than the Asus 6950.

Thanks, Dave.
a c 216 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 8:42:56 PM

purple stank said:
I didn't know they were already in a SLI/Crossfire setup as a single card.Thought they were tied into each other like a dual core.

That being the case I think it is best then to crossfire 6950's since the Crossfire/SLI situation will be the same either way.


It still is a lot like a dual core. Even with these dual cores, the application has to be written to use both cores, which is the difficulty with crossfire/SLI.
a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 8:49:05 PM

6990 is a bit faster than 590, which has bad reviews cause of only 1.5GB per GPU. While 590 is getting hot... really hot, 6990 is loud... very load. Both are SLi/CF setups, but overkill compared to cheaper SLi/CF setups. You can look at 6950s, they beat 590 and 6990, while being a lot cheaper, quieter, cooler and i think they might use less power. OP, you have 2 slots between PCIe connectors so you will be fine as most of cards are 2-slot. Btw, i can't remember if it was upper card that required more cooling or the card that's below?
a c 105 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 8:49:57 PM

you running 37 monitors or just one, and what is it and what resolution ? you might be looking at over kill.
a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 8:52:16 PM

i'd get the 6990 because of more VRAM, its a tiny bit faster overall and its a tiny bit cheaper.

also the GTX 590 has weak VRM's or too few of them. so if you want to OC dont then dont get the GTX 590.

May 24, 2011 8:55:00 PM

I would think it's the top card as the heat from the bottom card and then the gap between the two means the upper cards fan is only pulling hot air from the lower card. I am running only 1 monitor but I'm also thinking about upgrading to a triple setup. I am looking at such high cards because I will not be able to upgrade the graphics after this for a long time, so i'm looking for something that will last for a good while.

Thanks, Dave.
a c 105 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 9:04:48 PM

go with the 6990. it's proven itself time and time again at high res triple monitor set ups. the 590 is horse manure in comparison. go to hard ocp.... google it. you can look through the site and see several multi monitor set ups at different resolutions using one card ( 6990 vs 590 )........ and using the cards in a quad set up recently. no contest.
May 24, 2011 9:10:58 PM

Ok, I've ruled out the GTX 590. But I'm still unsure between the 6990 or 2 6950's. Any further comments appreciated.
a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 9:15:04 PM

you can rule out any dual graphic card solutions because your second PCI-E slot runs at x4.

6990 is the way to go for you.
May 24, 2011 9:17:02 PM

Thank you so much, a 6990 is it then. :) 

Is that just because of my mobo I have? If i changed it could I run to 6950 cards and crossfire okay, and If so what mobo would I need?
a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 9:22:35 PM

What resolution are you playing at??
a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 9:25:37 PM

davexxsmith said:
1920x1200



Get a 6950 2gb or 6970 and crossfire.
May 24, 2011 9:27:07 PM

Derbixrace told me that I couldn't do that and 6990 was the solution for me? Now I'm confused. :p 
May 24, 2011 9:30:01 PM

get a 6990 and rock all games!!!
May 24, 2011 9:41:08 PM

Based on the replies, It looks like I will be going for a 6990. I have found one on e-bay. A VTX3D 4GB Radeon HD6990 for £489. This is the cheapest one that I have found.

Thanks, Dave.
a b U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 10:02:09 PM

I know nothing about VTX3D.

Here is a Sapphire for a little bit more and free shipping. Sapphire HD 6990


Sapphire is one of the better brands.
May 24, 2011 10:05:32 PM

Embra said:
I know nothing about VTX3D.

Here is a Sapphire for a little bit more and free shipping. Sapphire HD 6990


Sapphire is one of the better brands.


Thanks for the link, will go for the Sapphire one then :) 

Cheers, Dave.
a c 214 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 10:11:31 PM

If you get a new board you can run a 6950 crossfire but not on your current one.

A slot that is x4 will bottleneck the 2nd card a lot,so much so that it's not even worth putting a card in it.Your next mobo will end up being x8/x8 or x16/x16 which is fine for a crossfire setup.

Maybe you should think about buying 1 6950 now and then buy the other when you get your new mobo.

Your XFX 750watt PSU should be fine for either the 6950 crossfire or 6990.How many amps are on the 12/v rail?

If you decide to upgrade your mobo this one should do you fine.

MSI P67A-G45 $140 + $8 Shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Basicly you can only use a single card with your current mobo,which is why you would have to go with the 6990.If you decide to upgrade your mobo then you can go for the 6950 setup.
May 24, 2011 10:14:06 PM

62 amps on my 12/v rail.
a c 214 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 10:16:23 PM

That should be fine.

I re-edited my post check it out.^
May 24, 2011 10:21:02 PM

Earlier I thought I had It all worked out, and now I just don't know. For me to set up 6990 Is going to be easier for a noobie, whereas 2 6950's need turning into 6970's and then crossfire setting up between the 2 cards.
May 24, 2011 10:30:47 PM

Cheers for all your help guys, but I'm going with the 6990. With the things I'll need (The cards, a new mobo) I might as well get the 6990. I've read it's only a 10% increase so i'll go with the 6990. Thanks again!

Dave.
a c 214 U Graphics card
May 24, 2011 10:56:39 PM

Thats a good choice.Have fun,Goodluck.
May 24, 2011 11:53:28 PM

swifty_morgan said:
go with the 6990. it's proven itself time and time again at high res triple monitor set ups. the 590 is horse manure in comparison. go to hard ocp.... google it. you can look through the site and see several multi monitor set ups at different resolutions using one card ( 6990 vs 590 )........ and using the cards in a quad set up recently. no contest.



I'd say both cards are major fail! And at the price points to boot? You gotta be kidding me!



May 24, 2011 11:59:19 PM

davexxsmith said:
Cheers for all your help guys, but I'm going with the 6990. With the things I'll need (The cards, a new mobo) I might as well get the 6990. I've read it's only a 10% increase so i'll go with the 6990. Thanks again!

Dave.


Forwarning, the 6990 is the loudest video card ever made. People talk about it here, but until you've been in the same room as one you will never really know how dammed loud they get.

Save your money, $750 is crazy money to spend on a video card.

At your 1920 x 1200 res, 1 single 6950 will suffice. You can find them for well under $300.
May 25, 2011 8:53:55 AM

That H67 based board is not only limiting ur CrossFire capabilities but also ur CPU. (i7 2600K) If u get any decent P67 board u should be able to CF at x8 and x8 and also OC the CPU. Better performance at a cheaper price than going with the 6990 imo

Or u could just get one 6950 (or 6970) and a new mobo use it for a couple weeks or so to see how it fares.
I dont believe u will see a need for another card in CF. But if u do u can always add another card then. Also if u wait for a while to add another GPU it will also cost u much less.
a c 105 U Graphics card
May 26, 2011 12:15:12 PM

rockitman said:
I'd say both cards are major fail! And at the price points to boot? You gotta be kidding me!


I myself, right now, have no need for a high end card as wanted by O_P. However, he wants the best of the 2 now and for future considerations. No contest. Nvidia loses here. Not your money anyways. You'll have to explain "both cards fail" to me. Try them before you opine. I know a few people who have them. 3 are happier with the ATI product vs the green guys right now.
a c 214 U Graphics card
May 27, 2011 1:35:48 AM

The OP has already choosen the 6990.
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