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July 30, 2011 9:31:01 PM

Hey guys, I've decided to go for a new build but I am troubled by the cheaper yet still expensive options. As from the title, I have come up with 2 complete builds ordering all parts from Newegg, an Intel i5 2500k build and an AMD Phenom II 955 build. They each have identical parts except for the CPU & motherboard only. However, although I definately want the 2500k over any Phenom, the price difference with CPU & motherboard is astounding! Basically I need help deciding whether it is worth shelling over extra (which is very painful) for the 2500k or whether the Phenom would perform better FOR THE PRICE. We all already know how much better the 2500k is but in a case where I have to spend much more than a Phenom build, which is still amazing in its own right, perhaps going with the Phenom would be a smarter option especially since I am pretty tight with the budget which is actually suppose to just be around 500-600, lmao!

Here are the two builds:

AMD Phenom II 955

CPU/Processor: $109.99 ($119.99 - $10 from promo code) AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
Decided to go with 955 instead of a little more for 960+ etc since it has a $10 promo code right now.

Motherboard: $104.99 ($114.99 - $10 instant) + $10 additional rebate ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
This seems to be the cheapest solution to many features such as multiple PCI-E slots, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0gb/s, etc. Unfortunately, this didn't have a combo discount with the processor.

Fan/Heatsink: $29.49 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler
This seems to be a cheap, reliable fan/heatsink that gets the job done well with either the 2500k or the Phenom.

Memory: $64.99 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
The standard memory. I love G. Skill and it just so happens that the 1600 version of the ripjaws x series 8gb (2 x 4gb) had some great combo discounts!

Hard Drive: $59.99 ($64.99 - $5 instant) SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Although I haven't yet owned one myself everyone seems to keep saying this is the fastest, best mechanical hard drive you could ever get.

DVD/CD Burner: $20.99 (but over 5 shipping) LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer - Bulk - Black SATA Model iHAS224-06 LightScribe Support - OEM
The standard DVD burner. I know I'm paying a few bucks more than I should but I don't know I kinda don't mind if I also get lightscribe support.

Power Supply: $103.49 ($144.99 - $30 instant x 10% off promo code) + $25 additional rebate Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Although originally I was just going to find a great deal for a 500-650watt range PSU for a single GPU configuration, I foudn this to be an amazing deal, with combo discounts as well so I decided it's worth it to invest the extra money to have a 1) modular PSU 2) active 850watt PSU plenty for SLI or crossfire 3) 80 plus bronze certified all for under 100 with rebates, discounts.

Graphics Card: $149.99 ($199.99 - $40 instant - $10 promo code) + $40 additional rebate ZOTAC ZT-40406-10P GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Yes, I know this kind of brings down the superior parts of the build and I should try and get something better like HD 6850/70, GTX 560/Ti, etc. but I decided I would first focus on the best other parts which would be harder to upgrade (motherboard for example) then simply swapping a GPU which i could upgrade later but save money on now. And it's not like the GTX 460 is bad either, plus I stumpled across this card with 2GB of memory! Good discounts too so might as well right?

Case: $94.99 ($109.99 - $15 instant) + $25 additional rebate Thermaltake V9 BlacX Edition with Docking Station (NewEgg Exclusive) SECC / Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Finally the case. There were so, so many options but I finally settled on this one also satisfied with paying about $20 for something that seemed perfect for me as well as very asthetically pleasing to me instead of other great cases around $50 after discounts. I like red LEDS more than blue, side windows I always like, lots of fans, great reviews, amazing discounts - why not?

PSU + RAM combo discount additional $25 off

Subtotal: $745.41
Tax: $50.92 (I live in NJ :(  )
Shipping: $13.52
Grand Total: $778.35
With Rebates: $678.35

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Intel i5 2500k Build

CPU/Processor: $219.99 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

Motherboard: $159.99 ($209.99 - $50 instant) GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
I would try and go for a cheaper motherboard, but this is a top of the line board with a discount of $50 is just too good to pass up, not to mention that combo with the memory is an additional $35 off!

Fan/Heatsink: $29.49 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler
This seems to be a cheap, reliable fan/heatsink that gets the job done well with either the 2500k or the Phenom.

Memory: $64.99 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
The standard memory. I love G. Skill and it just so happens that the 1600 version of the ripjaws x series 8gb (2 x 4gb) had some great combo discounts!

Hard Drive: $59.99 ($64.99 - $5 instant) SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Although I haven't yet owned one myself everyone seems to keep saying this is the fastest, best mechanical hard drive you could ever get.

DVD/CD Burner: $20.99 (but over 5 shipping) LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer - Bulk - Black SATA Model iHAS224-06 LightScribe Support - OEM
The standard DVD burner. I know I'm paying a few bucks more than I should but I don't know I kinda don't mind if I also get lightscribe support.

Power Supply: $103.49 ($144.99 - $30 instant x 10% off promo code) + $25 additional rebate Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Although originally I was just going to find a great deal for a 500-650watt range PSU for a single GPU configuration, I foudn this to be an amazing deal, with combo discounts as well so I decided it's worth it to invest the extra money to have a 1) modular PSU 2) active 850watt PSU plenty for SLI or crossfire 3) 80 plus bronze certified all for under 100 with rebates, discounts.

Graphics Card: $149.99 ($199.99 - $40 instant - $10 promo code) + $40 additional rebate ZOTAC ZT-40406-10P GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Yes, I know this kind of brings down the superior parts of the build and I should try and get something better like HD 6850/70, GTX 560/Ti, etc. but I decided I would first focus on the best other parts which would be harder to upgrade (motherboard for example) then simply swapping a GPU which i could upgrade later but save money on now. And it's not like the GTX 460 is bad either, plus I stumpled across this card with 2GB of memory! Good discounts too so might as well right?

Case: $94.99 ($109.99 - $15 instant) + $25 additional rebate Thermaltake V9 BlacX Edition with Docking Station (NewEgg Exclusive) SECC / Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Finally the case. There were so, so many options but I finally settled on this one also satisfied with paying about $20 for something that seemed perfect for me as well as very asthetically pleasing to me instead of other great cases around $50 after discounts. I like red LEDS more than blue, side windows I always like, lots of fans, great reviews, amazing discounts - why not?

CPU + PSU combo discount additional $25 off
MB + RAM combo discount additional $35 off

Subtotal: $865.41
Tax: $59.98 (I live in NJ :(  )
Shipping: $11.52
Grand Total: $915.31
With Rebates: $825.31

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July 31, 2011 12:40:02 AM

I'm sorry for bumping but anybody? I'd really appreciate some help and advice!
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July 31, 2011 1:00:11 AM

What help do you need? If you want the better performance go intel you want to save money go AMD. Either way you will be happy with both, you should be able to play all games out there at low-mid AMD to mid-high settings. Intel

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July 31, 2011 1:14:21 AM

Thanks for your input but I mean I want people's opinions on whether at these prices it's worth it to invest in the 2500k build. Also I would be happy to take anyone's advice for different, better parts or ways to save more money.
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July 31, 2011 2:26:41 AM

Obviously the Intel build is going to mop the floor with the AMD build, but I can see some changes to be made on that intel build. You have some serious money in it, yet you went too light on the vid card. The 460 is a mediocre card at best these days. Also that Thermaltake psu blows...that and no need for that many watts. A gtx 560ti or even a gtx 560 is a step up from a 460.

Here's some ideas...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $94.99 - $69.99 after mail-in rebate FREE SHIPPING
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $189.98 save: $35.00 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

or....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $323.98 save: $25.00 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $234.99 (Before $25.00 Mail-In Rebate Card) FREE SHIPPING
EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-amp... <----- Here's some benchmarks you should seriously look at

That evga card is just an example. There's lots of combo's ...MSI gtx 560ti with the 2500K, etc, etc... but if this is a gaming build, then spend your money where it's needed...and in gaming it's all about FPS.

Also NO TAX FOR NJ IF YOU USE AMAZON

That CM 212+ cpu h/s is cheaper @ amazon, it's free shipping and no tax. Same with the Samsung h/d, 2500K the vid cards...all that can be found on Amazon...even the mobo's. Why pay tax if you don't have to?
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July 31, 2011 2:51:33 AM

Thanks so much for your suggestions and actually since I put this up I have looked at tons of alternatives including Amazon as a way to beat the tax. To follow up on a few things, I'm confused, what makes the Antec a lot better than the Thermaltake PSU or why the thermaltake was so bad? I thought it was a great deal at the price so I would like to know why it's not. Also I explained why I went light with the GTX 460 i was willing to spend more on parts not so easily replaced/upgraded such as the motherboard and upgrade the graphics card later, although trust me I would love to have a GTX 560 Ti that would just blow everything else away and I might be able to fit it if I try all these cheaper solutions. However, what do you think of this gtx 560?

PNY VCGGTX560TXPB-OC-BDL GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card with 10ft HDMI Mini to HDMI Cable

I actually love EVGA GTX's including the one you gave, i'm just curious as to how this one fares. Lastly, what do you think of these motherboard alternatives:

$80 Gigabyte Z68A-D3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Combo with i5-2500k $323.98 ($25 discount) GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Thanks again!
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July 31, 2011 3:19:22 AM

mgoon11 said:
Thanks so much for your suggestions and actually since I put this up I have looked at tons of alternatives including Amazon as a way to beat the tax. To follow up on a few things, I'm confused, what makes the Antec a lot better than the Thermaltake PSU or why the thermaltake was so bad? I thought it was a great deal at the price so I would like to know why it's not. Also I explained why I went light with the GTX 460 i was willing to spend more on parts not so easily replaced/upgraded such as the motherboard and upgrade the graphics card later, although trust me I would love to have a GTX 560 Ti that would just blow everything else away and I might be able to fit it if I try all these cheaper solutions. However, what do you think of this gtx 560?

PNY VCGGTX560TXPB-OC-BDL GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card with 10ft HDMI Mini to HDMI Cable

I actually love EVGA GTX's including the one you gave, i'm just curious as to how this one fares. Lastly, what do you think of these motherboard alternatives:

$80 Gigabyte Z68A-D3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Combo with i5-2500k $323.98 ($25 discount) GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Thanks again!


That board is meant for a single card...it runs dual cards @ x4. These two boards down below run dual cards @ x8...which is what you want. The one board is a mATX so check the reviews...google them and look at newegg reviews maybe to see how it does with dual cards...like if they block any slots.

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-DDR3-Motherboard-G... $128.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Gigabyte Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2133 LGA 1155 Motherboard GA-Z68A-D3H-B3

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ZBHMN8/ref=sr_1_4?s=electr... <---- that's the mATX board, but it runs dual cards @ x8 and it's not all that much money...just check some reviews on it first.

That PNY card should do just fine...check amazon first though to see if they have it there for as cheap or cheaper. Items sold and shipped by amazon are tax free...so see who's selling it on here.

In regards to the Thermaltake psu...Thermaltake psu's are manufactured by CWT and Sirtec...which = junk

Antec, Corsair, XFX, Silverstone, Enermax, Seasonic...those are the quality psu's that won't have voltage probs and end up frying your system.


http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GDDR5-PCI-Express-Gr... $234.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Limited Lifetime Warranty 01G-P3-1561-AR

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-K... $54.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1)

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10... $29.49 Free Standard Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern... $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0 Gb-s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare-OEM Drives, HD103SJ

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SATA-Internal-Drive-AD-7260S... $19.99 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
Sony 24X SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive AD-7260S-0B - Bulk (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EBUXHQ/ref=ox_sc_a... $219.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Intel Core i5-2500K Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155

Here's a single 4GB stick of decent 1.5v RAM...if you ever feel the need for another 4GB of RAM...just purchase another stick of this later on. :) 

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Single-240-Pin-... $42.25 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Crucial Ballistix Sport 4 Not a kit (Single) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM BL51264BA160A
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August 1, 2011 8:02:15 PM

Well nevermind then some of these deals have ended, however, this has been a lot of help thanks!
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August 1, 2011 8:02:33 PM

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