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July 31, 2011 8:54:21 PM

Hello everyone this is my first time build a gamming rig and here are the parts that I have chosen, I'm living in europe so it means, NO ACCESS TO EGG :cry:  But Well lets start :lol: 

Case : Corsair Obsidian Series 650D (http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/boitiers-pc-alime...)

PSU : Seasonic 760w gold
(http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Alimentations/Al...)

Mobo : Asus Rampage III Gene
(http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Cartes-Meres/Soc...)

CPU : Core i7 960 (http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/processeurs/intel...)

Ram : Corsair Dominator DDR3
(http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Barrettes-Memoir...)

I havent choose a Graphic card, maybe the community can give some suggestions? >< Thanks in advance!! :hello: 
July 31, 2011 9:12:06 PM

P.S: I'd like to confirm if the rams will work on the motherboard too, I'm abit worry about this =/
July 31, 2011 11:27:46 PM

torytorydor said:
Hello everyone this is my first time build a gamming rig and here are the parts that I have chosen, I'm living in europe so it means, NO ACCESS TO EGG :cry:  But Well lets start :lol: 

Case : Corsair Obsidian Series 650D (http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/boitiers-pc-alime...)

PSU : Seasonic 760w gold
(http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Alimentations/Al...)

Mobo : Asus Rampage III Gene
(http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Cartes-Meres/Soc...)

CPU : Core i7 960 (http://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/processeurs/intel...)

Ram : Corsair Dominator DDR3
(http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Barrettes-Memoir...)

I havent choose a Graphic card, maybe the community can give some suggestions? >< Thanks in advance!! :hello: 


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July 31, 2011 11:45:50 PM
August 1, 2011 7:35:38 AM

I see Thanks pja61 unfortunatly that graphic card is out of stock in my area at the moment :na:  . And uh sorry for not reading the rules Why_Me, guess I shall post it in the proper format, my bad :??:  .


Approximate Purchase Date: This Week

Budget Range: 1200-1300 Euros

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Watching movies and stuffs.

Parts Not Required: Just the rig & components

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: CDiscount & Rue Du Commerce.

Country of Origin: France

Parts Preferences: by brand or type : I would prefer Intel for CPU and NVIDIA for graphic card.

Overclocking: Maybe, haven studied this much at the moment.

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: Currently 1400 x 900 ( Samsung Sync Master 940 Bz ) Soon changing into a 24inch Samsung LED Screen.

Additional Comments: Hmmm, I'd like to have a clear window pannel Rig which is why I chose the Corsair 650D as I do not have enough budget for the 800D

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These are the parts I've chose, but I have not decided on a graphic card yet :na: 

PC Case : Corsaire 650D

PSU : Seasonic 760w 80+ Gold ( Fully modular :lol:  )

Mobo : Asus Rampage III Gene

CPU : Core i7 960 Bloom field Quad Core

HDD : WD Blue 500Gb 16Mb 3.5" ( Interface Sata III 6Gb/s

Ram : Corsair Dominator DDR3 As for this component I am most unsure and worried that it might not be compatible with the mother board :( 

I have also decided to get another CPU cooling fan rather than using the cooling fan which is supported that comes with the CPU such as a Cooler Masters CPU Fan cooler

Lastly I'll replace all the PC's case fan and replace with 120mm Blue LED Fans & 140mm Blue LED Fans

I was also thinking if I Should get a fan controler but do not know which will be best :??:  .

Thats all at the moment, and Thanks again :) 
August 1, 2011 1:59:28 PM

As Why_Me says, you really need to go Sandy Bridge. The 900 series is outdated and pointlessly expensive. A 2500K is really the only choice.
You should just get 8gb of RAM, like this set (I know, no Egg, but you'll be able to find it elsewhere):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That cooler looks good.
The graphics card depends entirely on your budget.
August 1, 2011 2:12:39 PM

^I agree as well and also agree with 8GB RAM its worth the little extra money since its so cheap nowadays (anyway compared to a few months ago - year ago). Also forgive me if I missed something like you're doing RAID or only need 500GB but I think the Western Digital Blue's are considerably slower than Blacks or Samsung's Spinpoints. Although I've never owned one myself, I have seen a lot of people recommend the Samsung 1TB Spinpoint F3's and claim it is the fastest drive and best bang for your buck.
August 1, 2011 2:13:28 PM

What's your overall budget? Get an SSD if you can afford it.
August 1, 2011 2:53:38 PM

Thanks for the reply kajabla & mgoon11 :D  that's a great help, I didnt know what was sandy bridge but I guess its worth the shot, the budget is written though xD well, I would spend 100-250 Euros on a Graphic card :D  Most preferably a NVIDIA one. Speaking of the ram, the mother board has 6 memory slots which support tripple channel so I thought it'd be best if I got one of those, not sure because this is my first case :(  & Yes I think I should invest on an SSD too.
Here maybe I could replace the current HDD with this one Its an Samsung Spint point F4EG-3.

What I need to know is uhm, the ram's compability with the mobo and its good to go. Thanks again :D 

P.S : I'm totally new to SSD's, are there any recommended brands? such as Corsair or OCZ would be better because the price difference between these two is very low.


EDIT :

Here are the SSD's I think I would take :

Corsair 60Gb SSD 2.5 ~113 Euroes.
OCZ 60Gb SSD 2,5 ~ 94 Euroes.

So which do you think its a better choice? Thanks in Advance!
August 1, 2011 3:02:49 PM

Oh, there it is :p 
That's a massive range, but a good card for around 200 pounds would be a 570.
You won't find yourself ever maxing 8gb, but if you're set on 12gb for some reason you still shouldn't get a kit as fancy as the one you've listed. A cooler is totally overkill; RAM never really gets hot.
August 1, 2011 3:19:11 PM

Hmm ok, Thanks kajabla, I shall find the graphic card that my eyes are set on and then post it here again. What if I took 6Gb rams in tripple channel instead? would it be too slow compared to 8Gbs of ram? I have no idea on placing 2 sticks of ram on 6 slots :( 
August 1, 2011 3:20:21 PM

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Processeurs/INTE... 189,90 €
INTEL Processeur INTEL Core i5 2500K - 3.3 GHz - Socket LGA1155

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fww... 144,90 €
Carte mère ASUS P8Z68-V-B3 - Chipset Intel Z68 - Socket 1155

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Barrettes-Memoir... 64,99 €
G.SKILL Memoire kit de 2 barrettes Gskill SNIPER DDR3 PC3-12800 - 2 x 4 Go (8 Go) 1600 Mhz - CAS 9

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Alimentations/Al... 124,90 €
CORSAIR Alimentation Corsair HX 750 Watts - Modulaire

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fww... 204,90 €
ASUS Carte graphique ASUS ENGTX560 Ti DCII/2DI/1GD5 - GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 1024 Mo - PCI-Express

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Disques-Durs-int... 49,90 €
Disque Dur Interne 3.5'' 1000 go 32 mo 7200 tr/min - SATA Spinpoint F3 - SAMSUNG-HD103SJ

August 1, 2011 3:32:21 PM

Alright, I think I went over the board with my budget calculations, I'll drop the grade of the Graphics card ><" I think I'll take this GainWard GTX 560, what do you guys think? And maybe I shall get a 3 x 2Gb Tripple Channel memory, will that do?
August 1, 2011 3:33:48 PM

Alright, I think I went over the board with my budget calculations, I'll drop the grade of the Graphics card :??:  I think I'll take this GainWard GTX 560, what do you guys think? And maybe I shall get a 3 x 2Gb Triple Channel memory, will that do?
August 1, 2011 3:42:50 PM

Is it any cheaper than a $50 8gb pack? Yes, it'll do.
560 Ti would be much better. If you're thinking about an SSD, you can afford it. A better GPU is usually more important than the drives.
Sniper memory is overpriced. Go Ripjaws.
August 1, 2011 3:43:59 PM

Sorry about the double post....too many windows open :( 

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Processeurs/INTE... 189,90 €
INTEL Processeur INTEL Core i5 2500K - 3.3 GHz - Socket LGA1155

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Cartes-Meres/Soc... 144,90 €
Carte mère ASUS P8Z68-V-B3 - Chipset Intel Z68 - Socket 1155

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Cartes-Graphique... 204,90 €
ASUS Carte graphique ASUS ENGTX560 Ti DCII/2DI/1GD5 - GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 1024 Mo - PCI-Express

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Disques-Durs-int... 49,90 €
Disque Dur Interne 3.5'' 1000 go 32 mo 7200 tr/min - SATA Spinpoint F3 - SAMSUNG-HD103SJ

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Alimentations/Al... 124,90 €
CORSAIR Alimentation Corsair HX 750 Watts - Modulaire

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Composants/Barrettes-Memoir... 64,99 €
G.SKILL Memoire kit de 2 barrettes Gskill SNIPER DDR3 PC3-12800 - 2 x 4 Go (8 Go) 1600 Mhz - CAS 9
August 1, 2011 3:44:55 PM

Double post?
August 1, 2011 3:45:19 PM

Also, I think a P67 chipset would be better. You don't need any of Z68's features.
August 1, 2011 3:45:55 PM

kajabla said:
Double post?

LOL...I had like 20 windows open... :pt1cable: 
August 1, 2011 3:47:53 PM

Did the website turn buggy ? ><" It double posted and I cant edit it! Ok I see! Nice Sandy Processor! But theres a problem here, the Mobod doesnt support 1155 Chipsets? What to do! change mobo? or another core?

August 1, 2011 3:48:35 PM

Different mobo, for sure. It doesn't matter nearly as much as the CPU.
August 1, 2011 3:53:15 PM

torytorydor said:
Did the website turn buggy ? ><" It double posted and I cant edit it! Ok I see! Nice Sandy Processor! But theres a problem here, the Mobod doesnt support 1155 Chipsets? What to do! change mobo? or another core?

Check the links I posted. That's a 12+2 phase board that supports SLI, a factory o/c gtx 560ti, Samsung h/d , 8GB of G.Skill 1600hz RAM, modular 750w psu, 2500K, etc... that build allows you to add another one of those cards. You just need the case, optical drive, and heat sink.
August 1, 2011 4:06:06 PM

Alright! I've just read everything and Time to recapitulate what I'm going to get, Thans to Why_me And kajabla!

So I decided to get this Asus Sabretooth P67 since kajabla said Z68 features wont be used, the reason I chose this was because of the cool looking as I want the Corsair 650D case which has a full window panel to give a nice clean and tidy looking plus it also supports i7 Cores. Now to the processors I am not sure between the difference but here is 2 CPU that I shall chose :

Intel Sandybridge Core i7 2600

&

Intel SandyBridge Core i7 2600K

So which one shall I take?
August 1, 2011 4:48:44 PM

You should go with the 2500K over either of those. The K indicates that the processor can be manually overclocked, which is a must. The 2600K is marginally faster and has hyper-threading, which means it can run 8 processes at once, but once the two CPUs are overclocked there will be next to no difference in performance between them in gaming. Go with the 2500K and save $100.
August 1, 2011 5:00:13 PM

Ok everyone I think I have decided All my Parts but some little issues have to be discussed such as choice over different brands :lol:  . Lets make things clear again, as I said I'm living in Europe so no access to EGG. My budget is Around 13OO Euros. Here are the Parts :

PC Case : Corsair 650D ~ 169 Euros.

Mother Board : Asus SABERTOOTH P67 ~ 150 Euros.

CPU : Intel Sandybridge Core i7 2600 ~ 242 Euros.

OR

Intel SandyBridge Core i7 2600K ~ 256 Euros.

PSU : Corsair CMPSU-750AX ~ 133 Euros.

OR

SeaSonic 760W ~ 175 Euros.

SSD : Corsair 60Gb SSD 2.5" Force F60A MCL ~ 114 Euros.

HDD : Samsung SATA Spinpoint F3 ~ 50 Euros.

Memory : Corsaire Dominator GT DDR3 PC3-15000 - 2 x 2 Go (4 Go) 1866 MHz - CAS 9 ~ 80 Euros.

GPU : Gainward GeForce GTX 560 ~ 180 Euros.

Thats All for my Rig! I hope everything fix in well and I ready to Order it ANYTIME! So Thanks Everyone :D  Make sure to spot for any un-compability!

August 1, 2011 5:06:35 PM

kajabla said:
You should go with the 2500K over either of those. The K indicates that the processor can be manually overclocked, which is a must. The 2600K is marginally faster and has hyper-threading, which means it can run 8 processes at once, but once the two CPUs are overclocked there will be next to no difference in performance between them in gaming. Go with the 2500K and save $100.


Oh I See!! Well that helps! :D  But well, I'm anti over clocking :(  So ye I think I'll take the 2600 which will be enough, as the 2500k's price is really high, I wouldnt get to save 100 bucks :cry:  So well I'll do with it :??: 
August 1, 2011 5:17:27 PM

torytorydor said:
Oh I See!! Well that helps! :D  But well, I'm anti over clocking :(  So ye I think I'll take the 2600 which will be enough, as the 2500k's price is really high, I wouldnt get to save 100 bucks :cry:  So well I'll do with it :??: 


Well, if you're not into the overclocking business then I'd suggest you the i5 2400. However, from my personal experience I've seen that Intel's hyperthreading technology literally boosts the performance of the processor. (I had once disabled the hyperthreading from BIOS and I saw significant performance decrease). So if you can really afford it, go for an i7 2600K. :) 
August 1, 2011 5:25:59 PM

008Rohit said:
Well, if you're not into the overclocking business then I'd suggest you the i5 2400. However, from my personal experience I've seen that Intel's hyperthreading technology literally boosts the performance of the processor. (I had once disabled the hyperthreading from BIOS and I saw significant performance decrease). So if you can really afford it, go for an i7 2600K. :) 


What HT does is that it splits the resources of each core so that more of the resources can be utilized, so the HT will usually only help with applications that can utilize all those extra threads. Other times, HT might even hurt the performance because you're cutting the resources applications can use.
August 1, 2011 5:43:26 PM

Oh Thanks guys, So in the end I'll just stay to 2600 xD well the price difference is not really much :S & I think I'll take the Corsair's PSU over the Seasonic's one as the price difference is GREAT and I have no idea why, they are both fully modular but theres like 40 Bucks Difference !

Also May I Know the difference between GTX 560 and GTX 560 Ti? What does the Ti stands for?
August 1, 2011 5:51:50 PM

torytorydor said:
Oh Thanks guys, So in the end I'll just stay to 2600 xD well the price difference is not really much :S & I think I'll take the Corsair's PSU over the Seasonic's one as the price difference is GREAT and I have no idea why, they are both fully modular but theres like 40 Bucks Difference !

Also May I Know the difference between GTX 560 and GTX 560 Ti? What does the Ti stands for?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-amp...
August 1, 2011 5:55:58 PM

Oh Yes Google @_@ Sorry for that stupid question ... And Thanks Very much everyone, Now I'm sure of my build :D . WAY TO GO! MY FIRST RIG IS COMPLETE! now time to order it $_$
August 1, 2011 6:01:04 PM

Youngmind said:
What HT does is that it splits the resources of each core so that more of the resources can be utilized, so the HT will usually only help with applications that can utilize all those extra threads. Other times, HT might even hurt the performance because you're cutting the resources applications can use.

Well, I know that.
But see,
If a quad core processor tries to run any process that utilises all the threads available it'd be better for the processor to have more threads than the cores because,
1. Otherwise the resources may not be properly utilised.
2. These SB Processor cores are so powerful that throwing a single thread at one core means you're not unleashing all the power of that core.

I've tested this on a Game (Virtua Tennis 4) which only utilises a maximum of 2 threads. I've disabled HT from BIOS and felt that the gaming performance got decreased compared to when HT is enabled. I own an i3 2100 BTW.
August 1, 2011 6:31:04 PM

The HD 6950 not even close just check out some benchmarks and the GTX 560 isn't even a Ti version. However, if it was a Ti, their performance would be close.
August 1, 2011 6:34:55 PM

The Ti signifies a bunch of extra performance. The 6950 is way better than the non-Ti, and equal to or slightly better than the Ti. If you hadn't specified Nvidia, I would have suggested a 6950 or 6970, as they're better values.
August 1, 2011 7:22:11 PM

Oh Okay Thanks alot :D  But the 6950 is a 2.1 PCI-E card and the mobo only supports 2.0 PCI-E, while I heard that 2.1PCI-E are backwards compatible so ... ? ><"
August 1, 2011 7:40:05 PM

torytorydor said:
Oh Okay Thanks alot :D  But the 6950 is a 2.1 PCI-E card and the mobo only supports 2.0 PCI-E, while I heard that 2.1PCI-E are backwards compatible so ... ? ><"


Yes, its backwards compatible, however I'm not knowledgeable on this I don't know if a 2.1 card running in a 2.0 slot has significant disadvantage or anything like that but my guess is that it's not that much of a difference. Just a guess though sorry!
August 1, 2011 7:45:47 PM

It should work fine.
August 2, 2011 7:28:02 AM

Oh okay Thanks alot guys, well then the build is ready to go :D  I'm just waiting this 2 days to order the parts :)  and uh, its first time I'm mounting a PC will there be any configurations to do in the bios? or just start up the computer and put the OS CD in? Oh And yes I forgot to mention that I took a Windows 7 Family Edition Operating System.
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