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Anonymous
August 1, 2011 12:34:29 PM

Hi All,

I was just wondering if you could give me some feedback on this build, i want it for gaming - it's not an ultimate PC or anything like that but i wanted it to be strong and last a fair while without having to upgrade.

I do intend to get 2 10,000 RPM raptor drives to replace the HDD's in RAID 0 (SSD is far to expensive), i also intend to get another 8gb of the RAM.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Spec:

Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor
Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Cooler Master HAF X with Coolermaster GX 750W PSU
Asus P67 Sabertooth Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION **
Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX)
Arctic Cooling Freezer Xtreme Rev.2 High Performance Quiet CPU Cooler (Socket 775/1155/1156/1366/AM2/AM2+/AM3)
Samsung SH-S222AB/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM
Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g)

Thanks guys!

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Anonymous
August 1, 2011 12:43:12 PM

That cooler doesn't look as a good idea, performance-wise for OC it's below others such as Scythe Mugen 2.

As for the rest, it looks as a good performer if you are on a budget in my opinion.
August 1, 2011 12:46:47 PM

A couple of things:
1) If the PC is mainly for gaming, your just as well getting a i5-2500k and saving yourself about £80

2) Although the HAF X is a great case, the general recommendation is to stay away from the lower end CoolerMaster PSU's. Not to mention the case is huge so unless you plan on watercooling or just really want the HAF X you could spend about half that amount on a cheaper mid-tower ATX case (HAF 912 or 922 maybe)

3) You will not need 16GB RAM, i dont think any games will currently even utilize 8GB since they are designed for 32-bit OS's which only support 4GB.

4) 10,000 RPM drives are costly, your probably better off getting a 60GB SSD to use either as a boot drive or as an SSD cache (this would mean getting a z68 board instead of a p67 to use caching) and a use it with a much cheaper 7,200RPM HDD (Samsung Spinpoint F3 is usually recommended)

5) Get the hyper 212+ CPU cooler, its a similar price bracket and has much better cooling performance

With the money saved from downgrading the CPU and switching 10,000 RPM HDD's for a 60GB SSD Boot Drive and 7,2000 RPM HDD you could upgrade that 560Ti to a 570 or a 6970 which overall would give much better gaming performance


Also i have a feeling you need 1.5v RAM and the RAM you have listed is 1.65v i might be wrong here. If i am right however its worth checking out Corsair G.SKILL or VENGEANCE RAM.
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August 1, 2011 12:47:43 PM

other websites you may want to look at instead of overclockers.co.uk are ebuyer, dabs, novatech, aria, scan, out of those novatech, ebuyer and dabs are my favourite because of the free postage they offer (next day most of the time too!).
August 1, 2011 1:01:15 PM

^ SCAN is really good, especially when you dont have a "burning desire" for specific parts.

They offer some really good "Today only Deals" in which you can pick up cheap HDD's, Coolers, RAM as and when they are on offer.
Anonymous
August 1, 2011 1:05:44 PM

Quote:
Also i have a feeling you need 1.5v RAM and the RAM you have listed is 1.65v i might be wrong here. If i am right however its worth checking out Corsair G.SKILL or VENGEANCE RAM.


Thanks so much for your quick advice everyone!!!

You have got me so worried now because i have actually ordered all of these bits now haha, how can i check if the RAM will work??

Please help.

regards,

Nick
August 1, 2011 1:11:53 PM

There was issues with compatibility or something like that to do with 1.65v RAM and P67 boards. Looking for an article now which can explain better
Anonymous
August 1, 2011 1:13:20 PM

AdrianPerry said:
There was issues with compatibility or something like that to do with 1.65v RAM and P67 boards. Looking for an article now which can explain better



Kingston's KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX is a kit of two 512M x 64-bit 4GB DDR3-1600MHz CL9 SDRAM (Synchronous DRAM) memory modules, based on sixteen 128M x 8-bit DDR3 FBGA components per module. Each module kit supports Intel® XMP (Extreme Memory Profiles). Total kit capacity is 8GB. Each module kit has been tested to run at DDR3-1600MHz at a low latency timing of 9-9-9-27 at 1.65V. The SPDs are programmed to JEDEC standard latency DDR3-1333MHz timing of 9-9-9 at 1.5V. Each 240-pin DIMM uses gold contact fingers and requires +1.5V.

Model Name: KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX
Main Board: INTEL
System: DESKTOP
System Type: DDR3
M/B Chipset: INTEL P67
CAS Latency: 9-9-9-27 2N
Capacity: 8GB (4GBx2)
Speed: DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800)
Test Voltage: 1.50-1.65V
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Type: 240-pin DIMM
Master Pack Dimension: 8.5 x 5.5 x 0.62 In (L x W x H)
Master Pack Weight: 0.26 lbs
Black PCB
Warranty: Lifetime

Does this mean it will be ok?
Anonymous
August 1, 2011 1:21:52 PM

AdrianPerry said:
Heres a thread from TOMs discussing it however theres no real difinitive answer.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/285764-12-compatibi...


Thanks mate.

I think it should be ok as i don't plan on overclocking - too scared! haha


Quote:
That cooler doesn't look as a good idea, performance-wise for OC it's below others such as Scythe Mugen 2.

As for the rest, it looks as a good performer if you are on a budget in my opinion.


The cooler had good reviews so i went for it, fingers crossed it should be fine but i can always upgrade that at a later date if it turns out to be shite! :) 

The problem with 60gb SSD is that i'm worried that i'm going to run out of space and then have to buy a larger drive.

The raptors are so expensive aswell.....

I might just stick with 2x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX) in RAID 0.

Obviously, it's not going to be as fast as SSD or raptor but hopefully the build will work well as is.


August 1, 2011 1:27:44 PM

Unless your doing some major file transfers or opening huge files the difference in speed between HDD and SSD is rather unoticeable other than booting your OS.

60GB is plenty as a Boot Drive since the OS will only use up to 20GB (depending on which version - Windows 7 64-bit uses 20GB, 32-bit uses 16GB)

Also unless your getting both of those 500GB HDD's super cheap, you could save yourself some money and just buy a 1TB HDD. http://www.ebuyer.com/252858-seagate-1tb-3-5-barracuda-...
Anonymous
August 1, 2011 1:40:34 PM

I love overclockers!!

AdrianPerry, i just phoned them and they advised exactly what you said - the build is now ammended to the following:

Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor
Asus GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Cooler Master HAF X with Coolermaster GX 750W PSU
Asus P67 Sabertooth Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard ** B3 REVISION **
G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL )
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (WD5000AAKX)
Akasa AK-CCX-4002HP Venom CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM3)
Samsung SH-S222AB/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black)
Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g)

Hopefully, this should work better!

What you think?

Thanks again.

Nick
August 1, 2011 1:49:30 PM

Id still be tempted at the least to downgrade to a i5-2500k and upgrade to a GTX 570 which in terms of gaming performance will give more than an i7 and a GTX560 will.

It would also be silly to buy x2 500GB HDD's when you could buy a single 1TB one cheaper (however if you plan on just buying one now and adding another in the future then yeah maybe).

All your listed components will work together anyway if you decide not to change parts.
August 1, 2011 2:04:03 PM

AdrianPerry said:
Id still be tempted at the least to downgrade to a i5-2500k and upgrade to a GTX 570 which in terms of gaming performance will give more than an i7 and a GTX560 will.

It would also be silly to buy x2 500GB HDD's when you could buy a single 1TB one cheaper (however if you plan on just buying one now and adding another in the future then yeah maybe).

All your listed components will work together anyway if you decide not to change parts.


Sorry, I'm going to have to agree with AdrianPerry here, GTX 570 will definately give you much greater performance than a GTX 560 and the difference between the CPUs is not as great or valuable as the difference between the two GPUs. I also agree with getting a 1TB hard drive than 2 500GB ones unless you intend to raid in case I missed that being mentioned?
August 1, 2011 2:10:25 PM

^ The intention was to use RAID i think, but even so 2 500GB in RAID, is exactly the same performance as a 1TB not in RAID? (Providing all the HDDs are the same spec)

x2 500GB @ 7,200RPM 32MB Cache and SATA III in RAID 0
would be exactly the same as
x1 1TB @ 7,200RPM 32MB Cache and SATA III not in RAID

So unless x2 500GB is cheaper than x1 1TB theres no reason to use RAID? Just get one HDD?
August 1, 2011 2:13:33 PM

AdrianPerry said:
^ The intention was to use RAID i think, but even so 2 500GB in RAID, is exactly the same performance as a 1TB not in RAID? (Providing all the HDDs are the same spec)

x2 500GB @ 7,200RPM 32MB Cache and SATA III in RAID 0
would be exactly the same as
x1 1TB @ 7,200RPM 32MB Cache and SATA III not in RAID

So unless x2 500GB is cheaper than x1 1TB theres no reason to use RAID? Just get one HDD?


raid0 is faster in terms of speed, but it is also less reliable.
August 1, 2011 2:22:18 PM

^ That's what I though but i still also agree and think he should just get a 1TB.
August 1, 2011 2:38:53 PM

I thought RAID 0 was faster in terms of RAID....as in RAID 0 is faster than RAID 1 because it only needs to store the data to one location (RAID 1 being mirroring) so it has to save the data twice on both drives.

Surely if theres no RAID at all (just one single HDD), you would get exactly the same read and write speeds as RAID 0 with 2 HDD's? Because the same data is still being stored once, in one location, in both instances?
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