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August 1, 2011 10:29:12 PM

Hi,
Our computer is getting very old and it's time to upgrade. My son has just started getting interested in gaming, so I'd like to build a computer that he will be able to play on for a few years without having to upgrade. His current favorite game is the MMO City of Heroes. The computer he is using now will work OK as long as he's on a map by himself but whenever he gets in an area with a lot of people it bogs down. I'd like to build something that he can max out the frame rate when playing with a bunch of friends. We also wouldn't mind watching a little TV while we're surfing the net so I added a tuner. Here is the build I am considering.

Approximate Purchase Date: This week
Budget Range: Max 1500
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, web surfing
Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, amazon
Country of Origin: USA
Parts Preferences:Intel
Overclocking: In the future
SLI or Crossfire: Possibly in the future
Monitor Resolution:1920 x 1080

Motherboard:ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID=


RAM:G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

CPU:Intel Core i5-2500K Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2500K-Processor-3-3GHz-LGA1155/dp/B004EBUXHQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1312218056&sr=1-1


Hard Drive:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=f3


GPU:EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Power:Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049

DVD:ASUS 24X DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID=


Cooler:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

CaseRosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=11-147-153&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=3


Monitor:ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

OS:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986


Tuner:Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950Q TV Tuner Stick http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116034

I have a few questions.
The first obvious one is will everything work together? Any suggestions for changes to optimize or improve the system. My main concern is the GPU. I did a bunch of research and settled on the GTX 560 Ti. The problem is there are about a hundred different versions of it. Is there one that is "the best?" I chose the one I listed because it said to have the least amount of problems. I would much rather sacrifice a small amount of performance for stability, rather than get one that is super-overclocked but will give me a bunch of grief.
The case was a last minute change. I had settled on a Cooler Master HAF 922 but I measured it and it was about an inch too tall and 2 inches too long for my computer desk. Will this case be OK?
I would appreciate any comments or recommendations on this build. Thanks!

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August 1, 2011 10:44:03 PM

Take a look at the Antec 902 instead of that Rosewill. HardOCP reviewed that 750W Antec you posted, it did Ok, but a similar wattage Corsair or XFX would be a better buy. Also look into the Samsung LED monitors, the image is muck sharper and has less eye strain.
August 1, 2011 10:47:42 PM

1) A very nice build if you don't change a thing. Over time, the only thing you might want to change is the graphics card, and that is easy.

2) EVGA has very good support . If , by some chance, you want a stronger card within 90 days, they will take it back.
Actually, all of the GTX560ti cards use the same parts and board from Nvidia, differing mainly in the cooling. Not a big deal.

3) Most cases will hold your parts. You might invite your son to research and pick the case he likes best.
I might suggest the Antec 300 illusion model for the same price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4) I do hope that you and your son will both do the building. The experience is priceless.
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August 1, 2011 11:56:07 PM

ChiliPete said:
Hi,
Our computer is getting very old and it's time to upgrade. My son has just started getting interested in gaming, so I'd like to build a computer that he will be able to play on for a few years without having to upgrade. His current favorite game is the MMO City of Heroes. The computer he is using now will work OK as long as he's on a map by himself but whenever he gets in an area with a lot of people it bogs down. I'd like to build something that he can max out the frame rate when playing with a bunch of friends. We also wouldn't mind watching a little TV while we're surfing the net so I added a tuner. Here is the build I am considering.

Approximate Purchase Date: This week
Budget Range: Max 1500
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, web surfing
Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, amazon
Country of Origin: USA
Parts Preferences:Intel
Overclocking: In the future
SLI or Crossfire: Possibly in the future
Monitor Resolution:1920 x 1080

Motherboard:ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID=


RAM:G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

CPU:Intel Core i5-2500K Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2500K-Processor-3-3GHz-LGA1155/dp/B004EBUXHQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1312218056&sr=1-1


Hard Drive:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=f3


GPU:EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Power:Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049

DVD:ASUS 24X DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID=


Cooler:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

CaseRosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=11-147-153&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=3


Monitor:ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

OS:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986


Tuner:Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950Q TV Tuner Stick http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116034

I have a few questions.
The first obvious one is will everything work together? Any suggestions for changes to optimize or improve the system. My main concern is the GPU. I did a bunch of research and settled on the GTX 560 Ti. The problem is there are about a hundred different versions of it. Is there one that is "the best?" I chose the one I listed because it said to have the least amount of problems. I would much rather sacrifice a small amount of performance for stability, rather than get one that is super-overclocked but will give me a bunch of grief.
The case was a last minute change. I had settled on a Cooler Master HAF 922 but I measured it and it was about an inch too tall and 2 inches too long for my computer desk. Will this case be OK?
I would appreciate any comments or recommendations on this build. Thanks!


Nice looking build. :)  The only thing I could see changing is the case. That case is fine for a single card set up with a small cpu h/s, but otherwise it's going to be cramped.

Here's a case with space that wont break the bank.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-K... $54.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1)

Side fan for that case...

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Silent-140mm-R4-S4S... $10.25 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
Cooler Master R4 Series Silent 140mm Case Fan R4-S4S-10AK-GP

Here's a solid card with decent reviews...

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GDDR5-PCI-Express-Gr... $234.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Limited Lifetime Warranty 01G-P3-1561-AR

And for a better picture...here's a LED monitor...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $169.99 - $154.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
Asus ML228H 21.5" 1920X1080 2ms Full HD LED BackLight LED Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR)
August 2, 2011 10:16:01 AM

Thanks for all your replies. I will be checking out your recommendations, especially the cases. I'll have to look into the 570. It's better than the card I picked out, but how much better? I'll see if I can find some comparisons.

I just discovered I live about 45 minutes from a Microcenter so I may take a drive up there this afternoon and buy some of this stuff.

Thanks again for all your help.
August 2, 2011 1:27:58 PM

yuck asrock motherboards seriously get a decent motherboard - asus or gigabyte

dont ever skimp on the mainboard
August 2, 2011 4:18:21 PM

Here are some reviews for the GTX 570 that I bought:

http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/evga_gtx_570_sc/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/reviews/video_cards/evga...
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/EVGA-GeForce-GTX...

I actually haven't received it yet (ordered from Amazon and it will be here today!!) but from everything I read it would be the best single graphics card configuration for the money. I was looking at the AMD 6970 and it was too expensive to about the same price. I was thinking about crossfiring some 6870s but my motherboard would only allow about a 50% scaling. Plus I don't want to have to deal with multi gpu setups. For a first card, I would say the GTX 570 would be great. EVGA is an excellent brand (I own a 9600 GT from them) and they are fantastic. They offer lifetime warranties on a good chunk of their product lineup and have great customer service. Highly recommended. But be sure to watch out which cards have a lifetime warranty and which ones don't.
August 2, 2011 4:25:55 PM

apache_lives said:
yuck asrock motherboards seriously get a decent motherboard - asus or gigabyte

dont ever skimp on the mainboard

why does tomshardware like the extreme4 so much if it is such a bad motherboard
August 2, 2011 7:12:39 PM

apache_lives said:
yuck asrock motherboards seriously get a decent motherboard - asus or gigabyte

dont ever skimp on the mainboard

Yet Asrock boards have for the most part gotten decent reviews for the past 3+ years. Iv'e used a few of them in builds and have had nothing but good things to say.

As far as that Asrock board in the OP's build....here's a few reviews of that board down below.


http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000116#axzz1...

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1098/pg2/asrock-e...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4080/welcome-to-sandy-bri...
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