Help me build a game system for my son

Hi,
Our computer is getting very old and it's time to upgrade. My son has just started getting interested in gaming, so I'd like to build a computer that he will be able to play on for a few years without having to upgrade. His current favorite game is the MMO City of Heroes. The computer he is using now will work OK as long as he's on a map by himself but whenever he gets in an area with a lot of people it bogs down. I'd like to build something that he can max out the frame rate when playing with a bunch of friends. We also wouldn't mind watching a little TV while we're surfing the net so I added a tuner. Here is the build I am considering.

Approximate Purchase Date: This week
Budget Range: Max 1500
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, web surfing
Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, amazon
Country of Origin: USA
Parts Preferences:Intel
Overclocking: In the future
SLI or Crossfire: Possibly in the future
Monitor Resolution:1920 x 1080

Motherboard:ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID=

RAM:G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

CPU:Intel Core i5-2500K Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2500K-Processor-3-3GHz-LGA1155/dp/B004EBUXHQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1312218056&sr=1-1

Hard Drive:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=f3

GPU:EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Power:Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049

DVD:ASUS 24X DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID=

Cooler:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

CaseRosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=11-147-153&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=3

Monitor:ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

OS:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Tuner:Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950Q TV Tuner Stick http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116034

I have a few questions.
The first obvious one is will everything work together? Any suggestions for changes to optimize or improve the system. My main concern is the GPU. I did a bunch of research and settled on the GTX 560 Ti. The problem is there are about a hundred different versions of it. Is there one that is "the best?" I chose the one I listed because it said to have the least amount of problems. I would much rather sacrifice a small amount of performance for stability, rather than get one that is super-overclocked but will give me a bunch of grief.
The case was a last minute change. I had settled on a Cooler Master HAF 922 but I measured it and it was about an inch too tall and 2 inches too long for my computer desk. Will this case be OK?
I would appreciate any comments or recommendations on this build. Thanks!
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  1. Take a look at the Antec 902 instead of that Rosewill. HardOCP reviewed that 750W Antec you posted, it did Ok, but a similar wattage Corsair or XFX would be a better buy. Also look into the Samsung LED monitors, the image is muck sharper and has less eye strain.
  2. 1) A very nice build if you don't change a thing. Over time, the only thing you might want to change is the graphics card, and that is easy.

    2) EVGA has very good support . If , by some chance, you want a stronger card within 90 days, they will take it back.
    Actually, all of the GTX560ti cards use the same parts and board from Nvidia, differing mainly in the cooling. Not a big deal.

    3) Most cases will hold your parts. You might invite your son to research and pick the case he likes best.
    I might suggest the Antec 300 illusion model for the same price.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

    4) I do hope that you and your son will both do the building. The experience is priceless.
  3. ChiliPete said:
    Hi,
    Our computer is getting very old and it's time to upgrade. My son has just started getting interested in gaming, so I'd like to build a computer that he will be able to play on for a few years without having to upgrade. His current favorite game is the MMO City of Heroes. The computer he is using now will work OK as long as he's on a map by himself but whenever he gets in an area with a lot of people it bogs down. I'd like to build something that he can max out the frame rate when playing with a bunch of friends. We also wouldn't mind watching a little TV while we're surfing the net so I added a tuner. Here is the build I am considering.

    Approximate Purchase Date: This week
    Budget Range: Max 1500
    System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, web surfing
    Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers
    Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, amazon
    Country of Origin: USA
    Parts Preferences:Intel
    Overclocking: In the future
    SLI or Crossfire: Possibly in the future
    Monitor Resolution:1920 x 1080

    Motherboard:ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID=


    RAM:G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

    CPU:Intel Core i5-2500K Processor 3.3GHz 6 MB Cache Socket LGA1155http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2500K-Processor-3-3GHz-LGA1155/dp/B004EBUXHQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1312218056&sr=1-1


    Hard Drive:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&Tpk=f3


    GPU:EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

    Power:Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049

    DVD:ASUS 24X DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3067296&SID=


    Cooler:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

    CaseRosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=11-147-153&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=3


    Monitor:ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

    OS:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986


    Tuner:Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950Q TV Tuner Stick http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116034

    I have a few questions.
    The first obvious one is will everything work together? Any suggestions for changes to optimize or improve the system. My main concern is the GPU. I did a bunch of research and settled on the GTX 560 Ti. The problem is there are about a hundred different versions of it. Is there one that is "the best?" I chose the one I listed because it said to have the least amount of problems. I would much rather sacrifice a small amount of performance for stability, rather than get one that is super-overclocked but will give me a bunch of grief.
    The case was a last minute change. I had settled on a Cooler Master HAF 922 but I measured it and it was about an inch too tall and 2 inches too long for my computer desk. Will this case be OK?
    I would appreciate any comments or recommendations on this build. Thanks!


    Nice looking build. :) The only thing I could see changing is the case. That case is fine for a single card set up with a small cpu h/s, but otherwise it's going to be cramped.

    Here's a case with space that wont break the bank.

    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA $54.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1)

    Side fan for that case...

    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Silent-140mm-R4-S4S-10AK-GP/dp/B00314J422/ref=sr_1_10?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1312242372&sr=1-10 $10.25 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
    Cooler Master R4 Series Silent 140mm Case Fan R4-S4S-10AK-GP

    Here's a solid card with decent reviews...

    http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GDDR5-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B004K1EUWO/ref=pd_cp_e_2 $234.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Limited Lifetime Warranty 01G-P3-1561-AR

    And for a better picture...here's a LED monitor...

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 $169.99 - $154.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
    Asus ML228H 21.5" 1920X1080 2ms Full HD LED BackLight LED Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR)
  4. Ever thought about going for a Nvidia GTX 570? The version I just bought is an EVGA superclocked version that's performance is pretty darn close to the GTX 580. It's here if you are curious:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EYSMGW?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dynadata-20
  5. get this combo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.689144

    case- you will just be adding fans to that 912- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066 4 fans stock

    here is another combo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696141 the seagate isnt quite as fast but equally reliable.
  6. Thanks for all your replies. I will be checking out your recommendations, especially the cases. I'll have to look into the 570. It's better than the card I picked out, but how much better? I'll see if I can find some comparisons.

    I just discovered I live about 45 minutes from a Microcenter so I may take a drive up there this afternoon and buy some of this stuff.

    Thanks again for all your help.
  7. yuck asrock motherboards seriously get a decent motherboard - asus or gigabyte

    dont ever skimp on the mainboard
  8. Here are some reviews for the GTX 570 that I bought:

    http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/evga_gtx_570_sc/
    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/reviews/video_cards/evga-geforce-gtx-570-superclocked-review/
    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-570-Superclocked-Video-Card-Review/1153

    I actually haven't received it yet (ordered from Amazon and it will be here today!!) but from everything I read it would be the best single graphics card configuration for the money. I was looking at the AMD 6970 and it was too expensive to about the same price. I was thinking about crossfiring some 6870s but my motherboard would only allow about a 50% scaling. Plus I don't want to have to deal with multi gpu setups. For a first card, I would say the GTX 570 would be great. EVGA is an excellent brand (I own a 9600 GT from them) and they are fantastic. They offer lifetime warranties on a good chunk of their product lineup and have great customer service. Highly recommended. But be sure to watch out which cards have a lifetime warranty and which ones don't.
  9. apache_lives said:
    yuck asrock motherboards seriously get a decent motherboard - asus or gigabyte

    dont ever skimp on the mainboard

    why does tomshardware like the extreme4 so much if it is such a bad motherboard
  10. apache_lives said:
    yuck asrock motherboards seriously get a decent motherboard - asus or gigabyte

    dont ever skimp on the mainboard

    Yet Asrock boards have for the most part gotten decent reviews for the past 3+ years. Iv'e used a few of them in builds and have had nothing but good things to say.

    As far as that Asrock board in the OP's build....here's a few reviews of that board down below.


    http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000116#axzz1EqpvWFEN

    http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1098/pg2/asrock-extreme4-p67-and-fatal1ty-professional-p67-vs-x58-with-core-i7-950-review-asrock-p67-extreme4.html

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4080/welcome-to-sandy-bridge-with-the-asrock-p67-extreme4
  11. Here is a better 560 ti which is quieter and runs at lower temps than the evga:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565

    msi's twin frozr II.
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