$1200-1400 game/casual

Approximate Purchase Date: 2 or 3 months.


Budget Range: 1200 to 1400


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Casual/gaming (tied) internet music etc.


Parts Not Required: Mouse...


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: whereever


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: Nvidia video card (just one), Intel processor, netgear wireless?, i7, was thinking 2500 or 2600? Solid state master harddrive. 8-12 gigs of ram.



Overclocking: Maybe


SLI or Crossfire: maybe? what is this?


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080


Additional Comments: For uses, i'm a college student who casually games. I don't want them to be perfect (don't have the money) but i want games like rift and guild wars 2 at 1080p and have the settings well up there. For overclocking, i'm unsure about it. If i can't overclock and use air cooling then no, no overclocking.
Basicly i want a stunning laptop that can use air cooling, with it being just under a computer that would require water (the idea of water in my computer scares me).
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  1. Okay, first off, with that budget, you can build an awesome rig. I would recommend buying most parts from Newegg.com With that being said, lets get started on the parts you should focus on first. The first thing that you want to decide, is CPU. I would very highly recommend the i5-2500k, first because it is very fast for any use, and great for overclocking/ gaming. Once you have decided that, focus on motherboard, since you will now know what type of CPU socket you will need for it to have. If you want a really fancy motherboard for a good price, that is durrable and will last for a long time, choose the Sabertooth. It is a good mother board, however it still has some flaws, such as a lot of times when you put the computer into sleep mode, it will not come out of it. I will recommend what I think you should get at the end of this message. Everything that I am listing right now is just general idea/ example. For the mother board, your socket type will be lga 1155, so that is the kind of motherboard you should focus on. Once you have chosen CPU and Mother board, you will move onto other things such as video card, ram/ memory, hard drives, disc drives, monitor, psu, etc. Some of these things depend on the motherboard as well so you want to be sure that they are compatible, things such as the ram and video card.
    Below I will list the parts along with links that I recommend to you for your needs, or at least examples of parts/ parts that are generally close to what you should get.

    CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

    Video Card: ASUS GTX560 TI
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121425

    Mother Board: ASUS Sabertooth
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131702
    OR: ASUS Maximus IV Gene-z
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131759

    RAM: G.Skill Pi
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231352

    PSU: Kingwin Lazer 700W Modular
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121077

    HDD: Seagate Barracuda XT 2tb 7200 RPM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148636

    Monitor: ASUS VH242H Widescreen Monitor (1920x1080)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052

    CD/DVD Drive: Lite-on Black
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276

    Something along the lines of this for case: NZXT Phantom
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146068

    You shouldnt need any after market cooling solutions if you dont plan on doing any overclocking, plus, that case, and others like it/ in its price range have quite a few case fans pre-installed. The final price of that is about 1400, but that is for nearly top of the line stuff, and you could go cheaper if you didnt mind a small (i mean very) drop in performance. If you have any questions feel free to ask, and if you wish for it to be less expensive, just say so, and i can adjust a few things for you that will still provide good performance.
  2. If you want Nvidia GTX 580 performance (within avg of a 5 fps difference) then try this Nvidia GTX 570:
    http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclocked-PCI-Express-Graphics-012-P3-1572-AR/dp/B004EYSMGW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312246996&sr=8-1
  3. No. Not neccessarily. There are differences between the gtx 580, and gtx 570, other than just clock speed. And in that case, if it were that simple, he could just buy the 560 ti, or anything around there and overclock it or "superclock it" as it appeals to beginners. Plus, that gtx 570, having the blower, "supclocked" could overheat without any after market cooling solutions. And not to mention that it's a whole $70 more than the 560 ti, which performs very nicely, and stays quite cool, while drawing minimal power.
  4. What about:
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB ram
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231358

    OCZ Vertex Series SSD
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227395

    LITE-ON 24X DVD
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335
    (it's a dvd cd rw)

    Would those be good subs? I want an SSD for my main.. maybe i should go 60 gigs? It's just i don't wanna have to juggle games on my SSD and Harddrive.
  5. EVGA is known to be one of the best if not the best maker of Nvidia cards. I have a 9600 Gt Superclocked edition and it performs flawlessly and at quite cool. I have seen benchmarks that even showed it besting the GTX 580 in one game.
  6. First off, tacobravo, the 9600 gt will beat the GTX 580 in NOTHING. And Dagnis, for the ram, i would stay away from the ripjaws. It seems all nice and everything, and it seems like most gaming rigs have it, however, the facts are not always know that, the clock speed of the ram does not matter, if it does not have a good cas latency. Yes, it is 12gb, and seems like a good deal, but thats why it seems that way. The only good thing about the ripjaws is that it looks nice, and its a good price for 12gb @ 1600 mhz, but once again, that is only because it has a poor cas latency. With that all being said, there is a tossup between the two, considering that the ripjaws is 12gb vs the pi is only 6. But considering that the 12gb is only 3 sticks, that means that each stick has to do more work, but also, the sticks have twice the amount of memory, but then taking cas latency into account, they are actually about equal. I myself would go with the pi, first because i like the name :P and second, because of the dirty cas timings. It is up to you however. As far as solid state drives go, that would be a good idea to get a ~100gb one for your main drive, one: it will boot faster, two: its fast, three: its fast and four: its fast. oh, and did i mention that is fast? That would be really the only advantage to having a ssd. If you are going to get one, the one that you listed, would be a good option, but if its just going to be for windows and such, i would go ~60gb. And last, that dvd/cd drive is a good choice, cant go wrong really. And they are all pretty in-expensive. And one last note: if you do end up getting a small ~60gb ssd, make sure you also get a large, regular hdd such as the one that i listed. Once again, if you have ANY more questions feel free to ask. And once you have built your computer, feel free to contact me privately @ grant1337@hotmail.com or pm on TH
  7. And also, i cant stress enough on doing your research to make sure that everything is compatible with your mobo and such.
  8. jrwizbang said:
    First off, tacobravo, the 9600 gt will beat the GTX 580 in NOTHING. And Dagnis, for the ram, i would stay away from the ripjaws. It seems all nice and everything, and it seems like most gaming rigs have it, however, the facts are not always know that, the clock speed of the ram does not matter, if it does not have a good cas latency. Yes, it is 12gb, and seems like a good deal, but thats why it seems that way. The only good thing about the ripjaws is that it looks nice, and its a good price for 12gb @ 1600 mhz, but once again, that is only because it has a poor cas latency. With that all being said, there is a tossup between the two, considering that the ripjaws is 12gb vs the pi is only 6. But considering that the 12gb is only 3 sticks, that means that each stick has to do more work, but also, the sticks have twice the amount of memory, but then taking cas latency into account, they are actually about equal. I myself would go with the pi, first because i like the name :P and second, because of the dirty cas timings. It is up to you however. As far as solid state drives go, that would be a good idea to get a ~100gb one for your main drive, one: it will boot faster, two: its fast, three: its fast and four: its fast. oh, and did i mention that is fast? That would be really the only advantage to having a ssd. If you are going to get one, the one that you listed, would be a good option, but if its just going to be for windows and such, i would go ~60gb. And last, that dvd/cd drive is a good choice, cant go wrong really. And they are all pretty in-expensive. And one last note: if you do end up getting a small ~60gb ssd, make sure you also get a large, regular hdd such as the one that i listed. Once again, if you have ANY more questions feel free to ask. And once you have built your computer, feel free to contact me privately @ grant1337@hotmail.com or pm on TH


    Sorry I meant the GTX 570 that I was referring to!
  9. So what are the things to watch for as far as working together?

    CPU: make sure socket goes with MB?
    Ram: make sure goes with MB AND CPU? (pin, speed, and ddr correct?)
    GPU: make sure... goes with MB slot?
    PSU: Does one get a PSU that simply matches the max watts the MB can take?
    SSD or HDD and Disc: nothing really to worry about?

    What about case? where does it fit in in the decision making about which one to get?
  10. CPU: Make sure it's compatible with mother board
    RAM: Make sure your mother board has enough slots, supports ddr3, and the ram's frequency/ clock speed ie: 1600 Mhz
    GPU: Make sure it will work with motherboard, pretty much any gpu will work with any mother board though, so no worries.
    PSU: Just make sure its big enough to run all of your components stably. For your build I recommend a ~700w.
    As far as hard drives go, dont worry, just make sure you will have enough sata slots on your mobo, and enough cables, but most modern mobo's have enough slots for lots of drives, and pretty much every drive comes with the necessary cables.
    For case, make sure that its a large case, because any nVidia card/ ATI card that will deliver the performance that you want, is pretty massive, and you want to make sure everything fits. So basically an atx full tower case, such as the phantom that i listed. Also, your best bet as far as things fitting size-wise, is looking at dimensions, measuring, etc. And if you really aren't sure. Try asking someone that has the same part(s). Hope this helps.
  11. tacobravo said:
    Sorry I meant the GTX 570 that I was referring to!

    Oh so you meant that 570 besting the 580? That is a bit more reasonable. :na:
  12. jrwizbang said:
    Oh so you meant that 570 besting the 580? That is a bit more reasonable. :na:


    hahaha! I meant to say that but it was late at night when I was typing this! Yes the EVGA GTX 570 SSC FTW edition bested the GTX 580 in I think at least 1 or 2 games with performance 5 fps off of the 580.
  13. So would the gtx 560 ti here be good?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

    Also, i decided i'll prolly overclock the cpu and gpu when i play games, but not fully. Would the 700 watts still be good for that? How do you know how many watts you need?

    Lastly, would it be wise to get, for ram, 2 x 3gb and 2x 2gb? Getting 10 gb. I'm just puzzled when ram says that have triple or double channel kits.
  14. The channel just refers to how many sticks there are, so as long as the ram is similar, you should have no problems. But, if you get more amount of ram, say 10gb, then it is likely that the cas latency will be higher, which effects the performance of the ram, though not greatly, or really even enough to notice a major difference, it still does. However, if that is what you want, then go for it. My suggestion is to go with the G.Skill pi that I listed above ^ in the parts list, but if you want more, go with this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231353 , even if it does cost more, you will not ever need to upgrade. At least not for another few years or so.
  15. And to answer your other question about over clocking and the psu still being enough. It will be fine. I would be extremely surprised if that psu could not handle almost anything you throw at it. As long as you don't get dual xeon's and quad-sli gtx 580's, it'll be fine.
  16. Just wondering if you are done in this thread. If so, could you please select a best answer so that the mods will know to close the thread. Thanks! :)
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