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August 2, 2011 1:49:33 AM

Hello everyone. I'm trying to build a gaming pc, my budget is $3000 (excluding monitor, keyboard, mouse etc). I play every genre that exists but primarily fps. I will be playing on a 2560x1600 30" display (dell U3011). Please offer your opinions on my current build. I am concerned with future upgradability so motherboard and case selections would be especially welcome. Sound is also very important to me so if anyone has experience with the audio card I selected or can recommend another please go ahead.

Approximate Purchase Date: Early August

Budget Range: $2500-3000 (excluding monitor cost)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming and nothing else

Parts Preferences: Pretty set on GTX 580s and i7 2600k

Overclocking: Certainly

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: 2560x 1660


Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D

Power Supply: 1000W Corsair 80 + Modular Power supply

GPUs : 2 Nvidia GTX 580s

Motherboard: Asrock Z68 Extreme4

CPU: Intel i7 2600k w/ Asetek zero-service liquid cooling

RAM: 8gb Patriot Division 2 X-treme Dual Channel DDR3

SSD: 2 64gb crucial C300 realSSD (Gonna run in Raid 0)

Audio: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCI-E 7.1

HD: 3TB Seagate Barracuda XT


Couple of specific questions: Will this motherboard support the audio card, an internal wireless N wifi adapter (cant run wired in this location UNFORTUNATELY) and a third 580 if I add one in the future?

Any experience/thoughts on the dell U3011? I am also considering the hp zr30w.


Thanks

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August 2, 2011 3:40:09 AM

c0ldfusion said:
Hello everyone. I'm trying to build a gaming pc, my budget is $3000 (excluding monitor, keyboard, mouse etc). I play every genre that exists but primarily fps. I will be playing on a 2560x1600 30" display (dell U3011). Please offer your opinions on my current build. I am concerned with future upgradability so motherboard and case selections would be especially welcome. Sound is also very important to me so if anyone has experience with the audio card I selected or can recommend another please go ahead.

Approximate Purchase Date: Early August

Budget Range: $2500-3000 (excluding monitor cost)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming and nothing else

Parts Preferences: Pretty set on GTX 580s and i7 2600k

Overclocking: Certainly

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: 2560x 1660


Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D

Power Supply: 1000W Corsair 80 + Modular Power supply

GPUs : 2 Nvidia GTX 580s

Motherboard: Asrock Z68 Extreme4

CPU: Intel i7 2600k w/ Asetek zero-service liquid cooling

RAM: 8gb Patriot Division 2 X-treme Dual Channel DDR3

SSD: 2 64gb crucial C300 realSSD (Gonna run in Raid 0)

Audio: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCI-E 7.1

HD: 3TB Seagate Barracuda XT


Couple of specific questions: Will this motherboard support the audio card, an internal wireless N wifi adapter (cant run wired in this location UNFORTUNATELY) and a third 580 if I add one in the future?

Any experience/thoughts on the dell U3011? I am also considering the hp zr30w.


Thanks



A single 128 SSD would work better and have less of a chance of failure than two small 64gb ssd drives in raid 0. In regards to adding a 3rd 580, it will run in 8x/8x/4x on the extreme4.

The dell ultrasharps are amazing and priced very competitively. If I had the funds, I would get one. Your audio card should work. Not too sure about the wireless adapter.



August 2, 2011 4:19:09 AM

chillin, thanks for the response.

Why would a single ssd work better? I understand the failure risk but thought running 2 identical drives in raid 0 was faster than a single ssd.

The third 580 would run in 8x/8x/4x as opposed to 16x/16x (only 2 of these slots on the extreme 4?)? Sorry if this is a novice question but Im uncertain as to what the difference is between these slots in terms of performance.
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August 2, 2011 4:27:24 AM

The two drives in raid zero might read faster, but the write is slower because every time it writes the data it has to write to both drives. Also the sli 580s run at 8x/8x not 16x/16x if I'm not mistaken, so only a 16/8/8 board or a 16/16/8 board would give you the same speed across the board :p 

August 2, 2011 4:49:49 AM

The lower capacity ssd drives are slower than the higher capacity drives in both reads and writes. The performance in raid 0 does not make up for that. Taking that into consideration + doubling the risk of drive failure + the already numerous problems with ssds, I would not raid 0 any ssds...

the extreme 4 has 3 pcix16 slots but the electrical is only 8x/8x/4x

You need the nf chip to do 16x/16x/8x (I believe the last one is 8x or might even be 4x).

In any case, for the price, tri-sli would not yield much of a performance increase over sli.
August 2, 2011 5:32:08 AM

that isnt much of a gaming build...-
first off what speakers do you have? you wont see a difference in sound with a sound card unless you have a 500$ set of speakers with over 300w of power. onboard sound is excellent. wireless gaming for fps? that isnt a good idea. hook your computer up to the internet via ethernet on the motherboard


i7 2600k & P8P67 WS Revolution http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... 555$

noctua nh-d14 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 90$ this cooler cools as good as the corsair h80 (when the h80 is at its lowest fan speeds, the noctua is extremely quiet compared to it). i dont know what liquid cooler you wanted to get. can you put a link to it?

Silverstone RV02-BW http://www.amazon.com/SILVERSTONE-RV02B-W-Steel-Tower-C... 160$ the 800D is a hot box and made for a total liquid cooled system

Gigabyte Windforce 6970 2gb http://www.provantage.com/gigabyte-technology-gv-r697oc... 361x3=1083$

OCZ ZX 1250w PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 243$ shipped

gskill 8gb 1600mhz cl8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 60$ buy this before 8/3

OCZ Vertex 3 120gb- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 255$

Samsung Spinpoint f3 1tb- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 60$ 1tb is a lot of space you wont go through it that quickly. get another one when you need the space.

Total=2506$

logitech g110 keyboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 60$

Logitech g9x- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 60$

corsair sp2500- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 230$ this thing has an amazing bass with duel 60w subwoofers. the tweeters are rated at 56w each which is also very good. you will see amazing sound from these speakers

another good set is logitech Z623- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 135$ it has a single 130w subwoofer (that is why the bass is so much smaler because it is a single) and its tweeters are 35w each. they both give amazing sound so you can go wrong with either one

do you have space for 3 24" monitors?- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 280$x3=840$ much better way to spend your money
August 2, 2011 5:33:28 AM

3 6970's beat 3 580's in new fps games like bf bc2, fyi
August 2, 2011 5:56:37 AM

i can see your point in the keyboard. a mechanical keyboard is something to try out and see if you like but he is only gaming.... the logitech g9x is a great mouse i really dont see anybody using 6400dpi let alone 5000dpi the g9x has. the g9x is also very customizable.
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August 2, 2011 6:02:20 AM

Down below are 3GB gtx 580's that are made for a tri monitor set up. Two of those MSI cards will destroy any game out there on that tri monitor set up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $189.99
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $209.99
ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+ ERV1020EWT 1020W (Peak 1120W) ATX12V / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $554.98
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
ASUS P8P67 WS REVOLUTION LGA 1155 Intel P67 / NVIDIA NF200 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $64.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $599.00
MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3072MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $599.00
MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3072MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
August 2, 2011 6:20:18 AM

that is 5670x1080p he wants a 2500x1600 monitor. i suggested 3 1920x1200 monitors
August 2, 2011 6:23:10 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
3 6970's beat 3 580's in new fps games like bf bc2, fyi


Now, here starts the ATI vs. Nvidia fight yet again. :kaola: 
August 2, 2011 6:40:29 AM

Quote:
Don't get tom fooleried into the logitech board/mouse

razer is where its at right now

Black Widow mechanical keyboard = professional at work, stand aside and watch as money is made!

Imperator 4G Dual Laser 6400dpi = Chuck Norris spanking god


Why the hate towards logitech lol, perhaps their products have been going downhill since 2006 but still the G15-G19 keyboards are pretty sweet with the screen.
August 2, 2011 7:15:09 AM

its an oc'd 3gb gtx 580. it still isnt 3 580's why me....
August 2, 2011 7:16:04 AM

008Rohit said:
Now, here starts the ATI vs. Nvidia fight yet again. :kaola: 

no it isnt i brought it down 2 one game. it is a fact more so
August 2, 2011 1:10:22 PM

thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated.

@mjmjpfaff and Why_Me - thanks for the detailed build selections. The msi 580s Why_Me posted are the ones I'm set on. The cooler and case mjmjpfaff posted look better suited than my original choices.

mjmjpfaff - Im still a little undecisive on my speaker selection but was not aware how good the onboard audio was. I have a set of M-audio AV40's right now and a full 5.1 klipsch surround setup for my tv, both of which I was considering for this desktop. For these, along with the suggestions you posted, I will not see a difference in sound quality with the audio card?

Im aware of the disadvantages of using wireless internet. Howevere, the distance from my router to where I am putting this rig will make wiring extremely difficult. I'm not ruling it out yet but at the minimum need wireless as an alternative.

Also, I just picked up a black widow mechanical keyboard for my laptop and am loving it. I have a logitech g500 mouse.

I dont want to do a 3 monitor setup. I've read there are compatibility issues and think I would enjoy a 30" 2560x1600 more.
August 2, 2011 6:16:30 PM

well to a certain point if you have 2 1w speakers you arent going to get any of that out of them
August 6, 2011 12:21:13 AM

Mjm. Pm sent..
August 6, 2011 1:40:20 AM

im talking about 3 monitor setups where 3 6970's do beat 3 580's. also 3 way crossfire scaled better than 3 way sli
August 6, 2011 1:42:21 AM

Lunat1c said:
Mjm. Pm sent..

im sorry i have no idea how to access the pm. where do i go?
August 6, 2011 1:42:22 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
im talking about 3 monitor setups where 3 6970's do beat 3 580's. also 3 way crossfire scaled better than 3 way sli


Maybe the 6970's do scale better, but the 580's are better to begin with.
August 6, 2011 2:33:00 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
im sorry i have no idea how to access the pm. where do i go?

should be in your email account
August 6, 2011 3:25:11 AM

no my email is private. ill send u my email.
August 6, 2011 3:27:43 AM

nvm. i found it.
August 6, 2011 7:21:57 PM

bejabbers said:
If you have 3K to spend, why not go for SLI 590's?

800D and 3TB HDD combo
Maximus 4 Extreme-Z and 2600K combo
m4's (instead of the older c300's)
8GB 1866MHZ RAM
HCP-1200 (enough power for anything you can throw at it)
EVGA GTX 590 (get 2)
your sound card of choice

you would put the GPUs in slots 3 and 5, leaving you room in slots 1 and 2 for the sound card and wireless network card.


You do realize that one GTX 590 is just 2 GTX 580's. Don't you?
August 6, 2011 7:25:31 PM

jrwizbang said:
You do realize that one GTX 590 is just 2 GTX 580's. Don't you?

yea, and 2 590's is like 4 580's, but it only takes up 2 PCI-E slots. This way he gets 4-way sli with 2 cards, allowing room for the sound card and wireless card.
August 6, 2011 7:31:20 PM

bejabbers said:
yea, and 2 590's is like 4 580's, but it only takes up 2 PCI-E slots. This way he gets 4-way sli with 2 cards, allowing room for the sound card and wireless card.


Yeah that is a good idea with having more room, but if my memory serves, the 590's don't scale as well as the 580's. But I could be wrong.
August 7, 2011 12:48:10 AM

Hello everyone, thanks again for all the posts. I considered the 590s but as jrwizbang mentioned, I also read with their lower clock speed they dont scale well. I'm going to stick with sli 580s for now. I think for one 2560x1600 monitor this should be fine. I've made some changes based on everyones suggestions and some more research. Please criticize

Im running a 50ft cat6 ethernet cord (had to run outside) to deal with my internet situation. I've done speedtests and no matter how much money i spend on my wireless router it seems wired is faster and more stable. So the wifi card is no longer necessary.

However, I still want a motherboard that can run 2 580s at x16x16.. Done some searching on these forums and although there is very little performance difference from x16x16 vs x8x8 on one 2560x1600 monitor, I want it for the future. Here is the motherboard I'm thinking of going with -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

soundcard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

gonna take bejabbers suggestion on the m4's and ram selection. I like that psu you selected also but am wondering if it is necessary if i stick with just 2 580s.. What does everyone think of this one? (saw it on a toms system builder)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Finally, so many different opinions on the 800d case! Still a little undecided on case, but leaning toward mjmj's suggestion.

http://www.amazon.com/SILVERSTONE-RV02B-W-Steel-Tower-C...

Let me know what you guys think

August 7, 2011 3:44:27 AM

c0ldfusion said:
Hello everyone, thanks again for all the posts. I considered the 590s but as jrwizbang mentioned, I also read with their lower clock speed they dont scale well. I'm going to stick with sli 580s for now. I think for one 2560x1600 monitor this should be fine. I've made some changes based on everyones suggestions and some more research. Please criticize

Im running a 50ft cat6 ethernet cord (had to run outside) to deal with my internet situation. I've done speedtests and no matter how much money i spend on my wireless router it seems wired is faster and more stable. So the wifi card is no longer necessary.

However, I still want a motherboard that can run 2 580s at x16x16.. Done some searching on these forums and although there is very little performance difference from x16x16 vs x8x8 on one 2560x1600 monitor, I want it for the future. Here is the motherboard I'm thinking of going with -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

soundcard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

gonna take bejabbers suggestion on the m4's and ram selection. I like that psu you selected also but am wondering if it is necessary if i stick with just 2 580s.. What does everyone think of this one? (saw it on a toms system builder)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Finally, so many different opinions on the 800d case! Still a little undecided on case, but leaning toward mjmj's suggestion.

http://www.amazon.com/SILVERSTONE-RV02B-W-Steel-Tower-C...

Let me know what you guys think
if you go with dual 580s instead of 590s, you might consider looking into a solid water cooling setup, so you can keep everything seriously cool. In which case, the EVGA hydro copper 2 GTX 580s would be wise investments.
August 7, 2011 3:50:25 AM

^+1 Water cooling is the way to go if you have the $$$ and if you know what your doing, because if it's not setup correctly, bye bye $3000. On a brighter note, it's actually really hard to mess up, so don't worry. Also, if you hadn't looked at any yet, a few after market case fans would be a good idea. If you really want to go over kill, grab 1-2 of these. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Just be careful that you don't cut your fingers off lol.
August 7, 2011 4:10:57 AM

some shots of my WC rig for reference:





it's a mid tower, but I have enough radiator space for a SLI setup in the future.
August 19, 2011 5:01:21 AM

hey guys,

so i pulled the trigger tonight and submitted my order. Thanks for all the suggestions and help. I used a mix of many posters suggestions and my own research to make the final decision. I will certainly need help when putting this together next week so ill be right back on this forum. I'll post pics when i get everything sent.

A big part of my decision was ease of install bc this is my first build. Water cooling was a little too intimidating for me. However, BeJabbers your rig looks sick!

Order sent so no criticizing anymore! :

haf x
maximus 4 extreme z
2600k
noctua dh-14
evga 1.5gb 580s fermi (2 of them)
cooler master silent pro gold 1000w
crucial m4 128gb
1 tb seagate
G Skill ripjaws 8gb (1866)
titanium hd soundcard
hp zr30w

!