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August 4, 2011 9:25:34 AM

Hey everyone! I believe this is my second post so don't be to hard on me. I am just looking for answers, advice, and opinions on this build.

Approximate Purchase Date: Next year around Christmas

Budget Range: It is around 4,000 at the moment. I plan to use water cooling so it should be around 4,500?

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming is top priority, internet usage, and work

Parts Not Required: Speakers, because I have head phones

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Country of Origin: United States

Parts Preferences: Prefer Intel. Can someone explain why people say AMD is better for gaming? According to www.videocardbenchmark.net Intel beat AMD in everything.

Overclocking: Yes.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes.

Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Additional Comments: I would like this computer to be able to play every game smoothly on maxed settings. I have a lot of questions about this build. Anything that doesn't look right please correct it. Constructive criticism is helpful. I am still fairly inexperienced at building computers.

Questions:

With the 2600k. What is the highest stable over clocking that I can do? Should I get the higher i7 such as 990x for this build?

I am in a state of confusing about water cooling. I know if I am going to be using a very powerful rig then I need the best cooling? I have read up on what the component of water cooling are, but I still don't where to buy the best equipment for this rig. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Core of the computer:

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital VelociRaptor WD4500HLHX 450GB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair Obsidian Series 800D CC800DW Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 03G-P3-1591-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) Hydro Copper 2 3072MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card X 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Vertex 3 Series – MAX IOPS Edition VTX3MI-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W ATX 12V 2.3 & EPS 12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Input devices and stuff:

ASUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Logitech Performance Black Tilt Wheel 2.4 GHz Wireless Laser Mouse MX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Logitech G930 USB Connector Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I do believe that is everything. Constructive criticism rain down! :p 



August 4, 2011 9:32:08 AM

Since the purchase date is in 16months time, NO to the entire build.

Ivy Bridge and BullDozer processors will be out, new graphics card series will be out. SSD's may have dropped alot in price, or PCI-e SSD may be the best affordable option. Monitors will probably have taken a huge leap in 3D visuals. Windows 8 will be released.

Its more or less impossible to put together a build now that wont be bought for over a years time. Technology changes too quick, usually every Quarter-Half year the next jump forward is made.
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August 4, 2011 9:35:53 AM

hahah what the hell, how can you plan to build a machine that far ahead. As adrian stated technology is always improving, news models of everything will be out by then. even time travel will be possible! lol, If i were you , start saving then plan a few months ahead of the build max.
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August 4, 2011 9:37:08 AM

Ok. No one else reply to this thread. Admins please delete it asap.

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August 4, 2011 9:37:13 AM

If this build was planned for THIS Christmas, id still be saying WAIT :)  The ATI 7xxx series looms just ahead - not to mention there will more than likely be some big price drops/xmas sales by then :D 
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August 4, 2011 9:39:13 AM

AdrianPerry said:
If this build was planned for THIS Christmas, id still be saying WAIT :)  The ATI 7xxx series looms just ahead - not to mention there will more than likely be some big price drops/xmas sales by then :D 


I understand, but with newer technology mean more cash I have to shell out.

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August 4, 2011 10:34:17 AM

Not necessarily.

Prices are usually similarly matched. For example the GTX 660 will be competitive with the GTX 560.

Windows 8 will probably cost the same as Windows 7.

The rising prices of newer technology will generally be balanced out with the decreasing prices of current technology. HDD's are getting ever-cheaper, as is RAM. SSD's should also be dropping into the more affordable range by the end of next year too.

Its just impossible to predict technology available in the future and at what price it will be introduced. There are however "general trends" as we have seen recently with HDD's and RAM.
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August 4, 2011 2:06:18 PM

For that amount of money I would wait for Ivy Bridge as well.

Few random comments:
  • overkill for 1080p gaming, no matter the game;
  • 1500W PSU ... can your electrical installation even support it? (Standard 120V 15A circuit shouldn't be loaded over 1440W and this can potentially reach a draw of over 1724W;
  • Raptors are a waste of money, you could probably get 3x1TB 7200RPM drives in RAID 5 for storage for less;
  • Windows 7 Ultimate is usually overkill unless you can name a feature you need;
  • Really need 16GB or RAM???;
  • What feature does the Maximus MB has that you need over a 150-200$ board?;
  • Close to no benefit for the i7-2600K over the i5-2500K for gaming (probably 1FPS at most);
  • No good after-market cooler to OC your CPU.
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    August 4, 2011 2:15:49 PM

    ^ im guessing since the GPU's listed are the EVGA water-cooled cards, the whole system would be using a water-cooled loop. I might be wrong though.

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    August 4, 2011 3:07:04 PM

    AdrianPerry said:
    ^ im guessing since the GPU's listed are the EVGA water-cooled cards, the whole system would be using a water-cooled loop. I might be wrong though.
    My cynicism makes me think he just looked at every category and took whatever was pricier...
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    August 4, 2011 3:22:00 PM

    Zenthar said:
    For that amount of money I would wait for Ivy Bridge as well.

    Few random comments:
  • overkill for 1080p gaming, no matter the game;
  • 1500W PSU ... can your electrical installation even support it? (Standard 120V 15A circuit shouldn't be loaded over 1440W and this can potentially reach a draw of over 1724W;
  • Raptors are a waste of money, you could probably get 3x1TB 7200RPM drives in RAID 5 for storage for less;
  • Windows 7 Ultimate is usually overkill unless you can name a feature you need;
  • Really need 16GB or RAM???;
  • What feature does the Maximus MB has that you need over a 150-200$ board?;
  • Close to no benefit for the i7-2600K over the i5-2500K for gaming (probably 1FPS at most);
  • No good after-market cooler to OC your CPU.

  • invest in 2 more monitors and that will use all of your computer
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    August 4, 2011 7:21:39 PM

    Zenthar said:
    My cynicism makes me think he just looked at every category and took whatever was pricier...


    Haha yeah im with you on that one!

    Although I think maybe he over-looked the GTX 590 :p 
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    August 4, 2011 9:29:26 PM

    Yes. I was planning on water cooling it because I want to really push the envelop on performance. Could you give me a rough estimate how much a full liquid cooling system would cost? I don't care about price I want the best cooling. Thank you for your responses. I just made another thread that is more realistic that this one.
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    August 4, 2011 10:19:32 PM

    a good watercooling setup for the CPU and 2 videocards will run you around $500. However, this is not a "kit"...you buy the parts, read and educate yourself and put it together yourself. And if you're looking to build right before Christmas of 2012, you'll be through 2 more generations of videocards before that and another generation of CPU/motherboard. And in all honesty, split your money into 2 - $2000 chucks and build one computer 2 years after the first and you will be more "future proof" (not that there is such a thing) than blowing it all on one $4000 computer.
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    August 4, 2011 10:42:36 PM

    Best answer selected by KillAngel0.
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    August 4, 2011 10:46:30 PM

    japps2 said:
    a good watercooling setup for the CPU and 2 videocards will run you around $500. However, this is not a "kit"...you buy the parts, read and educate yourself and put it together yourself. And if you're looking to build right before Christmas of 2012, you'll be through 2 more generations of videocards before that and another generation of CPU/motherboard. And in all honesty, split your money into 2 - $2000 chucks and build one computer 2 years after the first and you will be more "future proof" (not that there is such a thing) than blowing it all on one $4000 computer.


    Even though you already selected this as best answer, I want to strongly support everything said. He's right 100%. Same advice I've handed out before.
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    August 4, 2011 11:02:09 PM

    Zenthar said:
  • 1500W PSU ... can your electrical installation even support it? (Standard 120V 15A circuit shouldn't be loaded over 1440W and this can potentially reach a draw of over 1724W


  • I hate to be "That guy", but a 15 amp @ 120 volt circuit maxes out at 1875[i know the direct math is 1800 watts, but breakers are even rated at 1875](and can be safeley held there as long as the proper wiring is used(AWG 14 upto a certain point and for longer runs it is recommended to jump to 12).). Have a close look at almost EVERY power bar(there are cleap 13 amp ones, but i do not count those), they are all rated at 1875 as well. Check out your girl friend/Wife/Mothers hair dryer, any bets it is an 1875 model.

    Back on topic, yeah, good best answer.
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    August 5, 2011 12:47:44 AM

    How can one logically plan a system now for purchase/assembly almost 18 months from now?

    If one can't afford dual GTX580s now, then look at twin 6850/6950s/GTX560Ti cards....

    Going without a system for 18 months, and intentionally blowing $2500 more than necessary.....that will have to be your call.....


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    August 5, 2011 2:34:46 AM

    mdd1963 said:
    How can one logically plan a system now for purchase/assembly almost 18 months from now?

    If one can't afford dual GTX580s now, then look at twin 6850/6950s/GTX560Ti cards....

    Going without a system for 18 months, and intentionally blowing $2500 more than necessary.....that will have to be your call.....


    Thank you for copying exactly what the previous posters have said... Yes, I have made another thread that I will be buying twin 6850. Thanks you for your advice.
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